BHA pushes for smoke-free housing

BHA pushes for smoke-free housing

There are 24 comments on the The Boston Globe story from Jul 27, 2010, titled BHA pushes for smoke-free housing. In it, The Boston Globe reports that:

Washington-Beech resident Meena Carr is seeing the benefits of the smoking ban on her grandson Malik's health.

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Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#1 Jul 27, 2010
Has to be legitimate--they clearly left the 70% poll policy behind.

"The housing authority says a poll it conducted this spring found a smoking ban has widespread support among public housing development residents with families. Of 1,300 people surveyed, 92 percent said they favor smoke-free housing, while only 8 percent objected, according to the housing authority."

Not just a sudden notion, either:

"Boston’s plan had its beginnings 10 years ago, when housing officials tried to figure out what was causing high incidences of asthma and other respiratory diseases among public housing residents. Eventually, they focused on second-hand smoking as a cause."

This says a lot:

“A lot of people think we are trying to evict smokers. We are trying to create healthy housing.’’

Since: Sep 14

Miami, FL

#2 Mar 9, 2015
I hope they will allow vaping I need my http://estick.com/

Since: Jul 14

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#3 Mar 12, 2015
Taajsgpm wrote:
I hope they will allow sucking hot nasty farts I need my http://pleaseripmeoff.com/
Smokers are really stoopid. They fall for this crap and put trust into someone whose business model includes spamming forums on the Internet as a form of advertising. If they fall for this, I can understand why they may think ecigs are fake. Still does not change the fact that whether they vape or smoke, they are still a filthy addict, no better than the crack ho standing on the street corner.

Since: Jul 14

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#4 Mar 12, 2015
[QUOTE who="Taajsgpm"I am an addict and ]I hope they will allow vaping I need my fix./[/QUOTE]
Smokers are really brainless. They fall for this spam and put trust into someone whose business model includes spamming forums on the Internet as a form of advertising. If they fall for this, I can understand why they may think ecigs are fake. Still does not change the fact that whether they vape or smoke, they are still an addict.
Truck Folls

Darby, PA

#5 Mar 12, 2015
Hey Schmones I have a question. Why are you so obsessed with this subject? You don't like smoking. We get that. But why can't you just be quiet about what other people do? They aren't doing it around you. I know you have enough places that are smokefree, anywhere in the United States. Even if no ban, so many places do it anyway.

So what's the real problem? Why do you do this? Why not find something you enjoy and post about that instead? Or something productive, like the wealthy and powerful abusing the poor. And PLEASE DON'T try to tie the smoking issue in with that. PLEASE! Unless it's to complain about tobacco excise tax. Which I doubt you would do. People who smoke do it because they enjoy it. That's already been covered on this forum.

So that's my question to you. Why do you do this? Hopefully I'll get a better answer than the other question on the other thread.

And TruthBeTold, same question for you, when you see this.

Answer whenever you like. Think about it for as long as you need to. Take a couple of days or however long you need.

Since: Jul 14

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#6 Mar 12, 2015
Truck Folls wrote:
Hey Schmones I have a question. Why are you so obsessed with this subject? You don't like smoking. We get that. But why can't you just be quiet about what other people do? They aren't doing it around you. I know you have enough places that are smokefree, anywhere in the United States. Even if no ban, so many places do it anyway.
So what's the real problem? Why do you do this? Why not find something you enjoy and post about that instead? Or something productive, like the wealthy and powerful abusing the poor. And PLEASE DON'T try to tie the smoking issue in with that. PLEASE! Unless it's to complain about tobacco excise tax. Which I doubt you would do. People who smoke do it because they enjoy it. That's already been covered on this forum.
So that's my question to you. Why do you do this? Hopefully I'll get a better answer than the other question on the other thread.
And TruthBeTold, same question for you, when you see this.
Answer whenever you like. Think about it for as long as you need to. Take a couple of days or however long you need.
Smoking is a sick, filthy, dirty addiction that claims countless lives every year. It is people like me who are pushing through the bans. WE are successful, unlike the weak willed smokers ho think that the world is their ashtray and who want the world to inhale all of the pollutants resulting from their addiction. Every time one of you smokingcretins dumps a car ashtray in a parking lot or drops a butt on the ground outside the store five feet away from the ashtray you help the cause and create more people willing to see a ban in place. Enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Since: Jul 14

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#7 Mar 12, 2015
Truck Folls wrote:
PLEASE! Unless it's to complain about tobacco excise tax. Which I doubt you would do.
I complain about the tobacco excise tax all the time. It needs to be higher. LOTS higher.
Truck Folls

Darby, PA

#8 Mar 12, 2015
Schmones wrote:
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Smoking is a sick, filthy, dirty addiction that claims countless lives every year. It is people like me who are pushing through the bans. WE are successful, unlike the weak willed smokers ho think that the world is their ashtray and who want the world to inhale all of the pollutants resulting from their addiction. Every time one of you smokingcretins dumps a car ashtray in a parking lot or drops a butt on the ground outside the store five feet away from the ashtray you help the cause and create more people willing to see a ban in place. Enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Not everybody who smokes litters. That would be the exact same thing as saying we should lock up all racial minorities because many of them commit crimes. Or quarantine all gays because many of them have HIV. The exact same thing.

And you didn't even begin to answer my question. So I will repeat and rephrase.

Why can you not, and do you not, just go to places that don't allow smoking, and be quiet about what other people do, in places that you do not have to enter? Why do you not do that, instead of complaining?

Let's try this again.

Since: Jul 14

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#9 Mar 12, 2015
Truck Folls wrote:
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Why can you not, and do you not, just go to places that don't allow smoking, and be quiet about what other people do, in places that you do not have to enter? Why do you not do that, instead of complaining?
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Because I do not have to. Complaining WORKS. Look at all the bans. Look at the new bans every day. Now I have t ask "WHY do smokingcretins HAVE to smoke around non-smokers?" It should be evidently clear by now that the non smokers do not want to put up with them. What makes a smoker so SELFISH they think they have the right to pollute everyone's air and litter everyone's ground? What causes that type of SICK thinking? Is it the addiction? Is it narcissism? Why don't smokers JUST NOT SMOKE and quit complaining?

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#10 Mar 12, 2015
Truck Folls wrote:
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And you didn't even begin to answer my question. So I will repeat and rephrase.
I's sorry you have pisspoor reading comprehension. I DID answer the question.
Truck Folls

Darby, PA

#11 Mar 12, 2015
Schmones wrote:
Because I do not have to.
So you are saying that you have no problems with hurting good people (as most smokers are) just to get your way? Is that what you are saying?

Are you aware of the philosophy of Karma? It is very real on a physical, secular level. Because when you send out bad energy, or hurt or cause negative energy towards other people, everybody will remember what you did. And for the record, you are never completely anonymous on the internet.

Maybe when you apply for a job, loan, etc. Or maybe in some other way, somewhere. But when you do bad things to good people, it WILL come back to you eventually.
Schmones wrote:
Complaining WORKS.
First, how would YOU complaining work? Considering you, TruthBeTold, and Winnipeg are not respected at all. From what I can see, you are treated as everybody's punching bag. You always have your posts voted down, unless you vandalize them. In which case someone will fix it back. So you never win and always lose.

Why would the people in charge take what you have to say seriously under those conditions? Politicians who want to keep their job tend to try to please the majority. Especially if we're talking the overwhelming majority.

So I don't understand how that would be. And that is without regard to what I said just then.
Schmones wrote:
Look at all the bans. Look at the new bans every day.
Most bans fail. Most existing bans are being weakened or repealed or exemptions added. West Virginia being the most recent. I read recently that California's ban is going to be repealed through citizen referendum. But I don't know the details on that.

But what does that have to do with anyway? What if we make it so that every place has to allow smoking everywhere within the building? What would you think about that?

My point is why are you not doing unto others as you would have done unto you?
Schmones wrote:
Now I have t ask "WHY do smokingcretins HAVE to smoke around non-smokers?" It should be evidently clear by now that the non smokers do not want to put up with them. What makes a smoker so SELFISH they think they have the right to pollute everyone's air and litter everyone's ground? What causes that type of SICK thinking? Is it the addiction? Is it narcissism? Why don't smokers JUST NOT SMOKE and quit complaining?
Most smokers do not do the things you say. Very few of them do these things. I covered this in the last post.

And most NON-smokers are not ANTI-smokers. They do not mind the smell of smoke and are not afraid of it.

I'm going to ask this one more time, and if you dodge the question again, forget it. I don't play around on forums. I treat these forums seriously, because they are supposed to be treated seriously.

I'm asking this one more time:

WHY do you not choose to allow places to allow smoking in places that you do not have to ever go in to? What is wrong with that? What is the problem with that? WHY do you object to that? WHY WOULD you object to that?

Let's see if you will give me a serious answer this time. If not, whatever. It's the last time I will ask. If you don't want to answer, then don't.

Since: Jul 14

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#12 Mar 12, 2015
Truck Folls wrote:
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Most bans fail. Most existing bans are being weakened or repealed or exemptions added. West Virginia being the most recent.
West Virginia does NOT have a statewide smoking ban. The legislation allows county commissioners, who enacted the local bans in the first place, to vote to allow casinos and a few other places to allow smoking. It also RAISES the cigarette tax by 50 cents a pack. The legislation still has a ways to go before it becomes a law. By the way "read somewhere"???? Please post a link to CA doing away with their ban.

By the way, in the last few hours, these stories have come through. Does not look good for tobacco, smoking and I did not include the bad news for vaping.
http://www.topix.com/health/smoking/2015/03/1...
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Disney-Ban...
http://news.health.com/2015/03/12/raise-legal...

Makes me giddy

Since: Jul 14

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#13 Mar 12, 2015
Truck Folls wrote:
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WHY do you not choose to allow places to allow smoking in places that you do not have to ever go in to? What is wrong with that? What is the problem with that? WHY do you object to that? WHY WOULD you object to that?
Let's see if you will give me a serious answer this time. If not, whatever. It's the last time I will ask. If you don't want to answer, then don't.
I gave you a serious answer.

SECOND HAND SMOKE KILLS.

Smokers are addicts.

Smokers are losers.

If a smoker insists on smoking, THEY, THE STOOPID MINORITY, can stay at home. THEY can suffer the ill effects of THEIR decisions.

GOT IT YET?????????

Or are you that dense that you cannot figure out that smokers HAVE NO RIGHT TO SMOKE??????

Since: Jul 14

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#14 Mar 12, 2015
Truck Folls wrote:
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First, how would YOU complaining work?
It is not ME alone. It is MILLIONS of people who do not want to put up with second hand smoke, We write and call our lawmakers and get results. Republicans and Democrats alike are enacting bans. If people like me did not take the time to make our views known, they would not have a ban. Look at the better hotels. Almost all of them are smoke free. Because we complain. We get things our way. You are just a sore loser.

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#15 Mar 12, 2015
Truck Folls wrote:
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I treat these forums seriously, because they are supposed to be treated seriously.
Uhhhh, Yeah.....

OK

Since: Sep 14

Boston, MA

#16 Mar 20, 2015
Schmones wrote:
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I complain about the tobacco excise tax all the time. It needs to be higher. LOTS higher.
No higher taxes , just outlaw it ,it is a deadly habit and what s wrong with vaping? itsaved my life I love myhttp://estick.com/

Since: Sep 14

Boston, MA

#17 Mar 20, 2015
The Captian

United States

#18 Mar 21, 2015
I submit that we don't ban anything. But have places where something is allowed or is not. And let each person make his or her own decisions about it all.

Is that a perfect solution, or is that a perfect solution? I think it is a perfect solution. It has been discussed on this forum many times over the years. I believe that most people think it is a perfect solution.

But if it's not, will someone please tell me specifically why it's not. No trolling or name calling, please. I don't engage in any of that.

Politely and respectfully inform me of the reason why my solution is less than perfect. And I will stop saying it is. I don't want to spread lies or untruths. As far as I know, I am right about this. But if I am wrong, I will stop saying it.
Bottom Line

Beverly, MA

#19 Mar 21, 2015
Actually there should be housing specifically designed for smokers.

Let them live in the same community. No children or animals or plants allowed.

Let the smokers live there and if they want protection from the fire department they pay double in taxes.

Let the lot live together happily ever after.

Since: Jul 14

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#20 Mar 21, 2015
Bottom Line wrote:
Actually there should be housing specifically designed for smokers.
Let them live in the same community. No children or animals or plants allowed.
Let the smokers live there and if they want protection from the fire department they pay double in taxes.
Let the lot live together happily ever after.
There is smoker housing. It is called a "tent"

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