Obama Rejects Afghan Plans

President Barack Obama does not plan to accept any of the Afghanistan war options presented by his national security team, pushing instead for revisions to clarify how and when U.S. troops would turn over responsibility to the Afghan government, a senior administration official said Wednesday.

[Bayview]

I am beginning to wonder exactly which side Obama is on? Ours or Theirs? Anyone check the back of his head for a 666?

[oneeye]

Bayview wrote:

I am beginning to wonder exactly which side Obama is on? Ours or Theirs? Anyone check the back of his head for a 666?

I agree with you re: which side obama is on. Makes one wonder. As for the "sign" it certainly has been brought up among believers. But, do you think he is too obvious?

[Gab]

What a POS!
More indecision.
Obama needs to cut and run,get our people out of there if he thinks for one second sitting on the pot eternally was ever an option.

[VinMan]

Did anyone actually believe he was going to "back" America?

Ya think?

We three agree, a real POS.

Bayview wrote:

I am beginning to wonder exactly which side Obama is on? Ours or Theirs? Anyone check the back of his head for a 666?

[Melanie]

Obama is just going to leave our guys stranded out there while he's out golfing and socializing with Oprah Winfrey. He's a terrible president!

[Donnie Wingo]

He's a terrorist in a non-violent way. His goal is to destroy the United States as we know it.

[Gringo1]

VinMan wrote:

Did anyone actually believe he was going to "back" America?
Ya think?
We three agree, a real POS.<quoted text>

Is this the same Obama who, during the election said Iraq was a criminal mistake, and we need to focus on Afghanistan.

[cat48]

Agree with all of you = BO is not capable of being a leader - he does not know what or how to do his job. Most of us are NOT surprised at all! We got exactly what we knew we were getting. BO began his term by dissing our country all over the world and now he "thinks" while our brave soldiers are on the front line, wondering what the heck he is thinking about.
Perhaps BO is waiting for healthcare bill to pass???

[cat48]

And can someone please tell me why BO is jetting off to the "far east" right now? A trip to his home grounds is a ridiculous expense to all of us. Meanwhile, BO's generals on the ground are waiting for an answer and BO looks like a little boy who has no clue.
Hey, who knows, maybe while visiting his home territroy, a revelation will come to him and he will make a decision as CIC.
God Bless and encourage our troops through this.

[VinMan]

He is capable of being a leader Cat; A leader of Anti-American Organizations.

It was said by many before he was elected that America may fall without the enemy ever firing one shot; That it may fall from within.

Of course all the mesmerized followers denied those accusations.

What do you all think now?

Were in some ways like the titanic. The best ship ever built but sinking fast!

cat48 wrote:

Agree with all of you = BO is not capable of being a leader - he does not know what or how to do his job. Most of us are NOT surprised at all! We got exactly what we knew we were getting. BO began his term by dissing our country all over the world and now he "thinks" while our brave soldiers are on the front line, wondering what the heck he is thinking about.
Perhaps BO is waiting for healthcare bill to pass???

[cat48]

And maybe, he'll come back to the US with his healthbill passed.
How dare he leave the country with a devastating hurricane about to land!

[oneeye]

We are outraged!!! This man has absolutely no leadership abilities, no sense of right and wrong. How dare him do this without one ounce of military experience. Say what you all want about President George W. Bush but he truly cared for our troops, our country and our name worldwide. When faced with something like military safety he was right on it. That's leadership
As I have said, IMPEACH OBAMA NOW...this man is NOT FIT to lead our country. If he won't stand behind our troops then maybe he should stand in front of them!
May God Bless America and our Troops!
Outrage!!

[oneeye]

And some have the insane audacity to worry about Bats...get real folks!

[oneeye]

Bayview wrote:

I am beginning to wonder exactly which side Obama is on? Ours or Theirs? Anyone check the back of his head for a 666?

Bayview...I am certainly outraged with what our so called president is doing on the Afghan situation. I want to retract a previous statement to you where I said he may be too obvious. I am beginning to believe you are correct. We should look on the back of his head. This man is awful. What boggles my mind is that people still follow him like little sheep...that seems to be another sign. Now today he announced a "job summit"...is he that crazy that he does not know all the summits in the world will not produce jobs unless he and the admin make it good for businesses to create jobs? He has no leadership ability in any form and is ruining our economy as well. I see grief coming for our country with this man.

[Cabin]

oneeye wrote:

And some have the insane audacity to worry about Bats...get real folks!

But they are AMERICAN Bats.

Now if we were worrying about Afghan bats that would be another thing.

;-))

I guess Obama could not figure out which choice gave the most political benifit to his party.

[fistv]

The issue with Afghanistan is not the government there it's the tribes. Every valley has one, they owe very little loyalty to each other let alone the government in Kabul. The 'advisors' that work with them are there for a year only then rotate out. Not going to build relationships this way from a group of people who need to know you before they trust you.
As far as Kabul it concerned, the tribes don't trust them, period, the only thing that the government does it take money and goods, giving nothing in return. Does the phrase 'I'm from the government and I'm hear to help' ring a bell. We are backing the wrong level but then that is what our large war machine is trained to do. We are not uniting the tribes, we are instead trying to force the government in Kabul on the tribes who don't want them. Everybody talks special forces, the special forces are STILL looked down upon by west point and other service college graduates and the pentagon so they don't listen to them. Next time you see a picture of the JCS take a look and see how many are wearing the seal Budweiser pin or the Army green beret along with the CIB [Combat Infantry badge] and are general officers. These guys in charge now are all politicians, actually once you make O-6 you are a politician. We did the same in Vietnam, we backed a corrupt government, what does that say about us.

[RebeccaDogLover]

cat48 wrote:

And can someone please tell me why BO is jetting off to the "far east" right now? A trip to his home grounds is a ridiculous expense to all of us. Meanwhile, BO's generals on the ground are waiting for an answer and BO looks like a little boy who has no clue.
Hey, who knows, maybe while visiting his home territroy, a revelation will come to him and he will make a decision as CIC.
God Bless and encourage our troops through this.

He sent the military advisors/generals back to revise the plan, that's all. It doesn't mean he's not going to do anything. The plan was just not good enough... the main objection Obama had is that the plan presented has no end point. It's similar to the Iraq plan that turned into an embarassment and a mess... just send more troops and we'll shoot stuff. He doesn't want Afghan to be a never-ending mess, he wants clear-cut strategic goals and benchmarks so we can measure our success. He doesn't want us to fight this forever and ever.

So, when the generals who have done this all their careers can present a plan that says exactly what we want to accomplish, how we are going to do it, and what needs to happen for us to finish the job and bring the soldiers home, he will approve it. It's be nice to actually win for a change, wouldn't it?

[oneeye]

RebeccaDogLover wrote:

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He sent the military advisors/generals back to revise the plan, that's all. It doesn't mean he's not going to do anything. The plan was just not good enough... the main objection Obama had is that the plan presented has no end point. It's similar to the Iraq plan that turned into an embarassment and a mess... just send more troops and we'll shoot stuff. He doesn't want Afghan to be a never-ending mess, he wants clear-cut strategic goals and benchmarks so we can measure our success. He doesn't want us to fight this forever and ever.
So, when the generals who have done this all their careers can present a plan that says exactly what we want to accomplish, how we are going to do it, and what needs to happen for us to finish the job and bring the soldiers home, he will approve it. It's be nice to actually win for a change, wouldn't it?

Face it Rebecca, the o man has no idea what he is doing and has no idea what he wants to accomplish. The only thing he is doing is getting our men and women killed in action. He needs to be removed from office not have more excuses made for him. He is unable, by reason of inexperience and by reason of having another agenda for our country other than Democracy, to fulfil the office he has been elected to...and I might add, elected to it by the acorn/seic workers...those are the people you are partnering with!

His behavior is unprecendented in our history. How dare him take a "stroll" around Arlington yesterday. It wasen't even a good show anymore. Most of us have caught on except for the sheep. Do you know this , sheep are the stupidest animals alive!

[AunieEm2]

RebeccaDogLover wrote:

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He sent the military advisors/generals back to revise the plan, that's all. It doesn't mean he's not going to do anything. The plan was just not good enough... the main objection Obama had is that the plan presented has no end point. It's similar to the Iraq plan that turned into an embarassment and a mess... just send more troops and we'll shoot stuff. He doesn't want Afghan to be a never-ending mess, he wants clear-cut strategic goals and benchmarks so we can measure our success. He doesn't want us to fight this forever and ever.
So, when the generals who have done this all their careers can present a plan that says exactly what we want to accomplish, how we are going to do it, and what needs to happen for us to finish the job and bring the soldiers home, he will approve it. It's be nice to actually win for a change, wouldn't it?

Only if the waiting wasn't costing lives. After watching last week s statement on Fort Hood, I'm thinking our president has no love of our military at all.

[clara]

RebeccaDogLover wrote:

<quoted text>
He sent the military advisors/generals back to revise the plan, that's all. It doesn't mean he's not going to do anything. The plan was just not good enough... the main objection Obama had is that the plan presented has no end point. It's similar to the Iraq plan that turned into an embarassment and a mess... just send more troops and we'll shoot stuff. He doesn't want Afghan to be a never-ending mess, he wants clear-cut strategic goals and benchmarks so we can measure our success. He doesn't want us to fight this forever and ever.
So, when the generals who have done this all their careers can present a plan that says exactly what we want to accomplish, how we are going to do it, and what needs to happen for us to finish the job and bring the soldiers home, he will approve it. It's be nice to actually win for a change, wouldn't it?

It's time for a revolt in this country,enough with the Pres.who can't make a decision,just like all politician,takes months on end to decide what to do.This guy is such a wimp,pull the troops out now and not let another person die.Afgh. needs to stand on their own 2 feet,we need all the concentration of the Pres.to be in this country and worry about our people,let's get jobs for them to they can support their families.I say descend on WAshington with millions of people and let him know we're not going to take it anymore.FORWARD,MARCH