Is any home good enough for the homel...

Is any home good enough for the homeless?

There are 149 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 27, 2010, titled Is any home good enough for the homeless?. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Dave Busch is photographed outside a home he's set up on Sherburne Avenue in St.

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Fire9Mars

Wasilla, AK

#1 Mar 27, 2010
Building codes are minimum requirements. They are in place because they were brought forward by a group, organization or an individual; and subjected to debate and voted on before being codified & adopted by a state or municipality. Non-compliant egress windows, especially in a basement, have resulted in many lives being unneccessarily lost. They have minimum clear opening width & height (and area) because they are not just for egress but also for rescue. I have investigated several fire fatalities where the victim did not get out because of non-compliant egress windows...if you do not bring them in to compliance you may be liable.
impeachobamanow

Faison, NC

#2 Mar 27, 2010
Wait 'till your health care goes thru all the government red tape, just like your houses do. You will die waiting for the government bullship!

Since: Dec 09

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Mar 27, 2010
Wow, very interesting article.

Dave Busch's heart is definetly in the right place. It's understandable homeless activists want to get as many people in homes instead of the street. But safety is still paramount. How could you live with yourself if a child was killed by fire in one of your homes because you cut corners?

I have to side with the city on this one. I live downtown and see many homeless all the time. It's heartbreaking knowing many have drug addictions, mental handicaps, etc. Let's help them get off the streets, but in SAFE homes.
I love Mpls

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Mar 28, 2010
I agree with spectre000. The problem is, "IF" there is room to sleep in a shelter, the doors open around 8:00PM, and then men, women, and children need to be back on the streets at around 6:00AM. I believe Dave Busch is doing for the homeless what Minnesota Housing never thought to do. Anyone in this situation would be thankful for the shower & toilet alone. Many of these people, with a little help, can get back on their feet.
tax scheme

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Mar 28, 2010
Halfway houses with 17 men, possibly ex-criminals and addicts, who haven't had background checks. Eek imagine a parent with little kids living next door to that nightmare. But the city is the bad guy for trying to prevent this insanity.
Brent

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Mar 28, 2010
Lippert should be the last one commenting on what's constitutional. His department is currently being sued in Federal Court for Racketeering because of their illegal housing code practices. Read about it at ademocracy.blogspot.com
Martha

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Mar 28, 2010
They take small and insignificant code violations and blow them out of shape so they can condemn the property and get rid of certain types of people the city does not want living in the neighborhoods.
no poverty around here

Redwood City, CA

#8 Mar 28, 2010
compare "the poor" with the REAL poor in other countries...such as Mexico, or much of formerly communist countries, or Asia......the "poor" here live like kings.

It's relative....man....

anyhow, I need my "housing" down on the beach in San Diego.........please pay for it!

Since: Aug 08

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Mar 28, 2010
I think this guy is a wonderful asset to an otherwise failing society. Agreed that there are slum lords out there. But just watch the city council meetings weekly and see what a sad state of affairs Saint Paul is in. While they lolly gag about this and that, and lay over until next week some measure, there are still human beings on the streets.

For whatever the reason, this is not acceptable in a country that is supposed to be America...Land of the Free, and Home of the Brave.

God Bless a good man that sees the needs of others.
bkndhrtd

Wells, MN

#10 Mar 28, 2010
Which is easier, put them on the streets (homeless people) or give them a place to call home? Put yourself, or better yet, your mother on the streets in the bitting cold we have had this winter. How can people NOT feel a little bit sorry for these people who have no place to go. I thank God that there is someone like Mr.Busch out there who actually cares.
bsparky

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Mar 28, 2010
thank you thank you thank you! At last, someone who understands homelessness and is doing something about it!
linokid

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Mar 28, 2010
Im an ex con that was without a home. At one point in life had I had a service like this, the road would have been easier to navigate. I understand society looking down on cons, what i dont get is how society does its damndest to keep that person a con. Every day people are released from prison with no place to go. I left prison with a $100 and one friend that made the difference. Now days society does all they can do to get one back into prison, ex con well now that we know that, you have no place to live and no job future. Dont get me wrong it starts with the convict saying I need to change, which doesnt always happen, but society you can only kick a dog so many times before he bites. 30 years later I got my own house, raised my kids and have my own company. I took the attitude that I had to make some personal changes and society could kiss me you know where, if they held my past against me thats their problem. We need to give people second chances and by telling em they cant have a job and a place to live where do you expect them to go?
warren955955

Bemidji, MN

#13 Mar 28, 2010
Lippert draws a parallel with Detroit and I am wondering why? The economy in Detroit is causing the city to fail not people like Busch. Lippert is probably drinking bottled water that we pay for and driving around in a city car that we pay for. He does not know anything about being homeless and more than likely does not really care either. HE has a government job and gets all kinds of benefits. Its obvious the government can't be as efficient as Busch and they are simply jealous because they do not have the talent to run an efficient operation. That is why the government NEEDS to get out of the way and let business people flourish....we are the ones that create the wealth that exists in society....not the man behind the desk creating nothing!

Since: Feb 08

Baldwin City, KS

#15 Mar 28, 2010
Why can't all these homeless people live under rainbows and ride unicorns to work at one of the billions of jobs every layer of government creates?
YoMammy

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Mar 28, 2010
It shouldn't be the governments job to house the homeless anyway.

Since: Jan 09

United States of America

#17 Mar 28, 2010
Tybalt wrote:
Barack Obama is a disgrace...
No, you are, for bringing him into this.
Bob In Asheville

Maxton, NC

#18 Mar 28, 2010
This is a very tough call...I can see both sides. As a former contractor I know that St. Paul rules and regulations are tougher than they need to be but how do you make exceptions.
Robert

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Mar 28, 2010
St. Paul is using the housing code to carry out a gentrification agenda and has been for years.
Tic Tac

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Mar 28, 2010
As a former St. Paulite, I believe that the rules and regulations imposed by the City are often difficult and unreasonable. For example, I was required to purchase a "fence permit" so that I could install a fence between my front and back yards. I was dividing my own property, for crying out loud!!!! I also believe that a LOT of the code enforcement in St. Paul is likely the result of one accident where someone died, and everyone else said "there oughta be a law...." I moved from St. Paul solely because of the over-regulation. I do understand the need for code enforcement, and I'm not saying it's all bad, but I think that when a person is just trying to live their life and own their OWN property, sometimes the stupid little rules (like the window screen cited in the article) just invade privacy and cause people to spend money they don't have.

I would be interested in seeing how different the St. Paul code and the Minneapolis code are. And St. Cloud, too.....

I say "way to go" to Mr. Busch, the world needs more people like him, and less people who are concerned about the bottom line.
Bob the Bilderberg

Minneapolis, MN

#21 Mar 28, 2010
No good deed goes unpunished. Government is the LAST place to turn to if you're looking for compassion.

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