Chicago Teen Deaths, Violence Tied To School Reform Plan?

Oct 6, 2009 Read more: The Huffington Post 33

Even in the cold rain, Danielle Jones would rather stand on the street and wait for her father to pick her up from her high school on Chicago's South Side than walk or take the bus, fearing the fights that start in school will be settled later on the streets.

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Evanston, IL

#1 Oct 7, 2009
Oh I see. Darker persons get special rights in this city and don't have to follow the rules in place for everyone els.
Mainly you get arrested if you cause trouble. Not if you're coloured! You get your dysfunctional groups coddled and protected!
WTF? Insanity reighns in this city.
Citizen

Evergreen Park, IL

#2 Oct 7, 2009
Now why is it necessary for CPD to come out in full force each day that CPS lets out? Food for thought.
bigpinky

Richton Park, IL

#3 Oct 7, 2009
i graduated from waller high school in 1968. in those days, every friday night was activity night where you could swim, play volly ball, basket ball, ping pong and roller skate. in school, for a small amount of money you could get a hot lunch(meat, vegetables and dairy)and it was a balanced meal. we had clubs like the 4h club that we could join. this wasen't just for whites, i'm black and got the best education at waller high school that is now lincoln park academy. the kids now have absolutely nothing after school and little in school. parents were also held accountable for what their kids did in school and there was a truant officer. what happened to the school system? we're paying more and more through property taxes and our kids are getting less and less. it is time for school reform. parents must be held accountable again.
Puzzled by response

Hillside, IL

#5 Oct 7, 2009
Mentals wrote:
Oh I see. Darker persons get special rights in this city and don't have to follow the rules in place for everyone els.
Mainly you get arrested if you cause trouble. Not if you're coloured! You get your dysfunctional groups coddled and protected!
WTF? Insanity reighns in this city.
I don't see your logic. What special rights are you referring to? None were mentioned in this particular article. Do you have a chip on your shoulder or something? No one mentioned in this article is being coddled and/or protected. The problem is violence on school grounds and trying to get to the bottom of it whether it is about gang fights or some "Columbine Inspired" sick person who wants to shoot students. The bottom line is all children regardless of color, in THIS city or anywhere else, should be able to attend school without fearing for their lives.

Since: May 09

Chicago

#6 Oct 7, 2009
bigpinky wrote:
i graduated from waller high school in 1968. in those days, every friday night was activity night where you could swim, play volly ball, basket ball, ping pong and roller skate. in school, for a small amount of money you could get a hot lunch(meat, vegetables and dairy)and it was a balanced meal. we had clubs like the 4h club that we could join. this wasen't just for whites, i'm black and got the best education at waller high school that is now lincoln park academy. the kids now have absolutely nothing after school and little in school. parents were also held accountable for what their kids did in school and there was a truant officer. what happened to the school system? we're paying more and more through property taxes and our kids are getting less and less. it is time for school reform. parents must be held accountable again.
I think the programs are there if they want them but the true problem lies in the fact that the parents aren't involed as they were back in the day. I agree the parents should be held accountable for these kids. The parents expect the school to raise their child, that's not how it supposed to be.
bigpinky

Richton Park, IL

#7 Oct 7, 2009
Windy City Player wrote:
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I think the programs are there if they want them but the true problem lies in the fact that the parents aren't involed as they were back in the day. I agree the parents should be held accountable for these kids. The parents expect the school to raise their child, that's not how it supposed to be.
i agree. since these kids are getting an education, teachers are not babysitters and the schools are not daycares for teens. it should be mandatory that parents are involved past registration.
SunnySideUp

AOL

#8 Oct 7, 2009
I am surprised so few comments on the murders of 40 Chicago children since ummm, ummm, ummm Barrack Hussein Obama took office. When are these people ever going to take responsibility for themselves and learn to pay their own way.

Since: May 09

Chicago

#10 Oct 8, 2009
bigpinky wrote:
<quoted text>i agree. since these kids are getting an education, teachers are not babysitters and the schools are not daycares for teens. it should be mandatory that parents are involved past registration.
Day after day after day, and even this morining a 20 year girl was killed at a busstop, what we don't see are any angry fathers..Where the heck are the fathers? I see crying mom's and sisters and uncles and cousins, where are the angry fathers? These so called men in these areas need to get there azzes out of the clubs, stop pimping around the neighborhood and start being fathers, or is that just not cool anymore? If my son was killed by one of these punks I personally would be furious and I wouldn't stop shooting until I got as many of them as possible, they cops would have to shoot me. I see no anger form the parents in these areas....If 10 kids were dying a week in my area in Chicago every single parent would take part to stop the gangs, forget the police....

Since: May 09

Chicago

#11 Oct 8, 2009
SunnySideUp wrote:
I am surprised so few comments on the murders of 40 Chicago children since ummm, ummm, ummm Barrack Hussein Obama took office. When are these people ever going to take responsibility for themselves and learn to pay their own way.
I'm no fan of Obama or liberals in general but this has been going on for a long time. The black community needs to fix this not the police or the city or politicians. The media in general is not reporting the truth and the people in these communities don't address the basic truth that violent crime is not a Chicago problem, it is certain areas having the problem. Blacks areas are number one with Hispanics a close second. It's not racist to point out truths that everyone knows. White areas have almost no violent crime. The more minorities in an area, the more violent crime, why is this? And please don't tell me poverty breeds crime, that's a liberal copout.
Mayor Daleys Slave

Oswego, IL

#12 Oct 8, 2009
Beat up and kill a christian honor student and the government gives you $500,000. Aren't you usually punished for breaking the law or doing something illegal. What the hell is President Hussein thinking sending Duncan and Holder to Chicago yesterday to meet at the Four Seasons Hotel without anyone from these violent areas present except The Reverend Jesses J/a/c/k/a/s/s and reward them with $500,000.
bigpinky

Richton Park, IL

#13 Oct 8, 2009
Windy City Player wrote:
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Day after day after day, and even this morining a 20 year girl was killed at a busstop, what we don't see are any angry fathers..Where the heck are the fathers? I see crying mom's and sisters and uncles and cousins, where are the angry fathers? These so called men in these areas need to get there azzes out of the clubs, stop pimping around the neighborhood and start being fathers, or is that just not cool anymore? If my son was killed by one of these punks I personally would be furious and I wouldn't stop shooting until I got as many of them as possible, they cops would have to shoot me. I see no anger form the parents in these areas....If 10 kids were dying a week in my area in Chicago every single parent would take part to stop the gangs, forget the police....
they have the churches participating in these stop the violence marches but they see it's not working. the fathers should be sought, questioned and if not paying child support, jailed. some of the fathers are the gang members themselves.
bigpinky

Richton Park, IL

#14 Oct 8, 2009
by the way, what good is the gun law in chicago? seems every criminal has a gun. a law abiding citizen would buy a gun and register it. criminals don't so who is that gun law for?
the jones

Chicago, IL

#15 Oct 8, 2009
uumm uumm uumm to think that all little black kids has education in mind when they go to school..I don't think so....just a bunch of hood rats....
the jones

Chicago, IL

#16 Oct 8, 2009
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uumm uumm uumm to think that all little black kids have education in mind when they go to school..I don't think so....just a bunch of hood rats....
Citizen

Evergreen Park, IL

#17 Oct 8, 2009
Windy City Player wrote:
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I'm no fan of Obama or liberals in general but this has been going on for a long time. The black community needs to fix this not the police or the city or politicians. The media in general is not reporting the truth and the people in these communities don't address the basic truth that violent crime is not a Chicago problem, it is certain areas having the problem. Blacks areas are number one with Hispanics a close second. It's not racist to point out truths that everyone knows. White areas have almost no violent crime. The more minorities in an area, the more violent crime, why is this? And please don't tell me poverty breeds crime, that's a liberal copout.
True, true but keep this in mind. There are many people lliving in these neighborhoods who are black also but they are NOT like that. They are the victims of those thugs. Life is very difficult for them. Go to some CAPS meetings and you will meet them. If you are truly interested and not just talking through your lips, go to CAPS meetings in these neighborhoods. You will find out an interesting story.
Jonn

Chicago, IL

#18 Oct 8, 2009
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Jon

Chicago, IL

#19 Oct 8, 2009
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Since: May 09

Chicago

#20 Oct 14, 2009
bigpinky wrote:
<quoted text>they have the churches participating in these stop the violence marches but they see it's not working. the fathers should be sought, questioned and if not paying child support, jailed. some of the fathers are the gang members themselves.
I agree, there is a breakdown of family in these areas and has nothing to do with poverty....We were poor growing up in Chicago and our area never looked like this and we didn't commit violent crime because my dad would have beat my asz..These parents need to be held accountable for these kids, period.

Since: May 09

Chicago

#21 Oct 14, 2009
Citizen wrote:
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True, true but keep this in mind. There are many people lliving in these neighborhoods who are black also but they are NOT like that. They are the victims of those thugs. Life is very difficult for them. Go to some CAPS meetings and you will meet them. If you are truly interested and not just talking through your lips, go to CAPS meetings in these neighborhoods. You will find out an interesting story.
Oh I fully understand that there are decent people living in these areas and I won't generalize and say every single person is bad. I would never attend a CAPS meeting outside my own area because those meetings are for people in that community, not mine. I think it's great that black activist's and community leaders are organizing to address the problem's in their areas but what I haven't heard yet is isolating what is causing it, I hear we need more police, we need schools closer so kids don't have to walk through the area and I hear that society and race is keeping these kids down...basically blame. Why don't these community leaders start pointing the finger at the parents who raise the kids....
Citizen

Evergreen Park, IL

#22 Oct 14, 2009
Windy City Player wrote:
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Oh I fully understand that there are decent people living in these areas and I won't generalize and say every single person is bad. I would never attend a CAPS meeting outside my own area because those meetings are for people in that community, not mine. I think it's great that black activist's and community leaders are organizing to address the problem's in their areas but what I haven't heard yet is isolating what is causing it, I hear we need more police, we need schools closer so kids don't have to walk through the area and I hear that society and race is keeping these kids down...basically blame. Why don't these community leaders start pointing the finger at the parents who raise the kids....
They are player, they are.

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