Baptists can fix your gay child, before they're born.

[Xcntrik InVidor]

The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary president implies that although previously the dogmatic argument was that 'homosexuality is a choice' now it is likely that homosexuality is biological. Technology might be available to 'fix' the homosexuality invetro.
The Article: http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg...

Dilemma: If the basis for homosexuality is biological, then it can't be a 'choice' which removes the responsibility from the individual and places it back on God. Tampering with a pre-born individual (life begins at conception, according to the baptists) means that Baptists know better than God, but more importantly, that 'they' are right, and God is wrong. Doesn't that completely destroy the belief system?

[smarter the you]

baptist suck, and are dumb, they are hard headed. and women are always snobby, better then catholics they are pure idiots. I think that cattle is hell of a lot smarter then them.

[southern baptist]

I don't think any specific religion can "cure" homosexuality. It's something,I believe, that God allows to occur so that the believers are tested.

[alpine helvetic]

Only the elect are redeemed (not free will), all others left to there own demise.

[Brandi]

Hey, smarter the you...(laughs) there are so many grammatical errors in your comment.(Even though I pick on you, I do agree.)
So, god willingly creates people so they can burn in hell to test believers? That sounds like a fair and reasonable god. I am being sarcastic in case you can't tell.

P.S. Smarter the you it's "than" as in better than. Than is used for comparison.
Alpine, it's "their" as in ownership.

Being around uneducated christians is what scares me the most.-Brandi

[brenda]

this has got to be the stupidest thing i have ever heard. truly gay individuals do not wake up one day and say "I think I will wear my brown shoes, and oh, I think I will be gay today!" i am the PROUD mother of a gay son and this is bull. He struggled for years with this and tried everything to deny it. he was unhappy for most of his teen years, until he finally came to grips with it. as every person is born with a sexual preference, so are gays. do i wish it were different, yes. does he wish it were different, yes. can we fix him, NO.
you never know before birth what your child is going to look like, let alone what sexual orientation he/she will have. I thought missouri was full of stupid people, don't spoil my illusions of the great state of texas.

[Watamooze]

alpine helvetic wrote:

Only the elect are redeemed (not free will), all others left to there own demise.

"THE NORSEMAN"
True-life documentary on the exposure of one of Xcntrik InVidor's most "educated" sock puppets.

Norseman clearly has the software to change his ISP at will, or randomly. He never posts 2x in a row from the same ISP, not even in quick succession. Let's look at his posts of the past 24h :

ISP : Irvine, CA
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD ...

ISP : Lake Mary, FL
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD ...

ISP : Los Angeles, CA
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD ...

ISP : Fort Worth, TX
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD ...

The last ISP,@ Fort Worth, TX was just before he got exposed as a sock puppet ...

WATAMOOZE wrote ( to Norseman ):
"Sock puppet of Xcntrik, dutifully spewing his usual crap" ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD ...

WATAMOOZE wrote :
"Sock puppet, copying & pasting ( as usual )...
You don't exist. You don't even have an ISP address ...
Stop wasting your time, Xcntrik. The games up ...
Where's Norseman ? At which of his many fictitious ISP's ...
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall" ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD ...

WATAMOOZE wrote ( to Fish ):
"Tell me quickly, Clown Fish : Which state is Chess Jurist from ? And which city / town is Norseman from ? You know these sock puppets personally. See ? You cannot answer it, Fish. You've been duped. Poor dumb Fish ...
And tell me, are you also screwed over like Xcntriks sock puppets, to say exactly what he wants you to say ?
Isn't it terrible to rank lower than the sock puppets in the pecking order ?
You are low ...
Brush up your speech. You've been sounding like a sock puppet for long time already. You are just too miserable to be one ( but, then again, I might be mistaken ). Personally, I think you're a live puppet.'Puppet fish'? That sounds like an interesting new species" ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD ...

From this point onwards, Norseman's ISP remains locked @ Fort Worth, TX. Strange ? I think not. See Norseman's frantic reply on my post to Fish ( & my reply ), & make your own conclusion :

NORSEMAN wrote :
"Fish knows exactly where I am from, yu dissembling Afikaan."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD ...

WATAMOOZE replied :
"Oh ? Out pops the sock puppet ! Can you answer, sock puppet ? Were you briefed by the master ?
Afraid Fishy might not know the correct answer for the day ? What is it today / Fort Worth, Texas, would you say ? Thanks, puppet. Or could it be Vidor, perhaps ( heh heh heh !!!)...
Xcntrik, don't be so OBVIOUS ! It's no fun busting you if you walk into it all the time ! Damn" ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD ...

BUSTED !!!!! Norseman is busted as a sock puppet !!!!!

Now look at Norseman's unsolicited explanation of his ISP that has suddely stopped hopping around the globe. It is clear that Norseman is fighting for his life as a sock puppet :
Norseman wrote:
<quoted text>OK, for the last time. I post on an iPhone. The 3G Network uses many portals, all outside the user's influence. Whom do you think you are fooling or impressing with this lunatic fringe act?
Now ain't that a clever explanation ! But Norseman'd better take his imaginary iPhone for a check-up, for it's now stuck in Texas ( home state of puppeteer InVidor ). Who does Norseman think he is fooling ? Who does Xcntrik InVidor think HE is fooling ? Because Norseman usually make lengthy posts, he is not really on the thread at the same time as Xcntrik InVidor, for OBVIOUS REASONS ...

Xcntrik InVidor BUSTED FOR FRAUD !!!!!!
Yhe Mighty Mooze with the Golden Heart busts yet another CROOK, & exposes yet another devious scam ...

Watamooze !!! Wata Hero !!!

[Cynical]

smarter the you wrote:

baptist suck, and are dumb, they are hard headed. and women are always snobby, better then catholics they are pure idiots. I think that cattle is hell of a lot smarter then them.

You are showing your intelligence by your lack of grammar. It is hard to take you seriously when you write with such pathetic grammar apparently showing your own lack of education as you then proceed to attack the Baptist denomination.

And just so you know, I'm not a Baptist, nor am I overly fond of Baptists, but I am even less fond of folks who spew ignorance.

[Watamooze]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary president implies that although previously the dogmatic argument was that 'homosexuality is a choice' now it is likely that homosexuality is biological. Technology might be available to 'fix' the homosexuality invetro.
The Article: http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg...
Dilemma: If the basis for homosexuality is biological, then it can't be a 'choice' which removes the responsibility from the individual and places it back on God. Tampering with a pre-born individual (life begins at conception, according to the baptists) means that Baptists know better than God, but more importantly, that 'they' are right, and God is wrong. Doesn't that completely destroy the belief system?

Who asked you, Snippy ?

What do you really know about baptists & baptism ?

What do you really know about anything ?

[lutheran]

Watamooze wrote:

<quoted text>
Who asked you, Snippy ?
What do you really know about baptists & baptism ?
What do you really know about anything ?

my mother in law is a baptist and she is the most "I know everything because my preacher said it" woman. She believes all that the preacher says and will argue that the president is a muslim. Baptist preachers all want money.....money...and more money.

[Solution]

Brandi wrote:

Hey, smarter the you...(laughs) there are so many grammatical errors in your comment.(Even though I pick on you, I do agree.)
So, god willingly creates people so they can burn in hell to test believers? That sounds like a fair and reasonable god. I am being sarcastic in case you can't tell.
P.S. Smarter the you it's "than" as in better than. Than is used for comparison.
Alpine, it's "their" as in ownership.
Being around uneducated christians is what scares me the most.-Brandi

Suppose God creates homosexuality with the same purpose as all of his creations. Enjoy and overcome. Those who are gay know they are loved and honored by God, at some point heteros will come to see that and accept it for just that. The problems that gays face in their battle with discrimination will overcome the hurdles of hatred and fear. The overcoming will give them the wisdom and strenth to give to their future generations. Those who allow themselves a moment of quiet and contemplation know that there are too many gays in this world to blame on choice. I strongly believe that this bible stance was created by man, not God. God does not put us here to destroy us. We destroy ourselves by our incorrect beliefs and fears.

[Colorblind]

I once knew a girl, a friend of mine, who was as gay as it gets. Her Baptist guilt soon got the better of her, so she married an unsuspecting man with no knowledge of her leanings. I have been told they have two children. What does one do with the real person they are inside and what does someone like this bring to a marriage and to innocent children? If anyone out there knows, please tell me. I have always wondered.

[Quarter Moon]

Solution wrote:

<quoted text>
Suppose God creates homosexuality with the same purpose as all of his creations. Enjoy and overcome. Those who are gay know they are loved and honored by God, at some point heteros will come to see that and accept it for just that. The problems that gays face in their battle with discrimination will overcome the hurdles of hatred and fear. The overcoming will give them the wisdom and strenth to give to their future generations. Those who allow themselves a moment of quiet and contemplation know that there are too many gays in this world to blame on choice. I strongly believe that this bible stance was created by man, not God. God does not put us here to destroy us. We destroy ourselves by our incorrect beliefs and fears.

Bravo! Well said! That seems to be the problem with most organized religion. It consists of "man made" doctrine and "man made" judgment and somehow the messages that Jesus came and preached on the riverbank is just forgotten. From what I read in the bible, Jesus came to preach love, compassion and forgiveness and to feed the people. Today's preachers seem to prefer to preach anger, condemnation and expect the people to feed them and build them beautiful ivory towers from which to deliver their messages.