Illinois poised to go smoke-free

Illinois poised to go smoke-free

There are 48 comments on the Beloit Daily News story from Dec 15, 2007, titled Illinois poised to go smoke-free. In it, Beloit Daily News reports that:

“I believe the government should stay out of it”

Bar operators not happy, but pleased ban is statewide Six months after Beloit's smoking ban began its neighbors to the south will do the same Jan. via Beloit Daily News

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Jan

Baraboo, WI

#1 Dec 15, 2007
Smoke free is good my brother died of second hand smoke
just candid

AOL

#3 Dec 15, 2007
On Jan first Illinois will join other forward lookig states in protecting it's people. A wise move that all states should emulate.
ha ha

Louisville, KY

#4 Dec 15, 2007
Carol wrote:
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Oh yeah? I'll bet you blame every death on secondhand smoke. Anti-smokers are all nothing but liars and frauds.
carol, your a baboon! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha freakin ha
ha ha

Louisville, KY

#5 Dec 15, 2007
yeah for illinois. they will have much healthier people now. yeahhhhhhhhhh
just candid

AOL

#6 Dec 15, 2007
Carol wrote:
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Oh yeah? I'll bet you blame every death on secondhand smoke. Anti-smokers are all nothing but liars and frauds.
Are you the same nut case who's been saying smokers should be "genociding" non-smokers children?
Kent

Shepherdstown, WV

#7 Dec 15, 2007
ha ha wrote:
yeah for illinois. they will have much healthier people now. yeahhhhhhhhhh
Not if your mental health is to be considered a goal post for not smoking.
Linda

United States

#8 Dec 15, 2007
Did I miss something in that article

"Rock County Board candidates lining up"

I didn't see anything about IL going smokefree??????????
Jan

Baraboo, WI

#9 Dec 15, 2007
Carol wrote:
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Oh yeah? I'll bet you blame every death on secondhand smoke. Anti-smokers are all nothing but liars and frauds.
Hon calm down to each it's own go smoke a doobie and settle down i didn't mean to get you all bent out of shape you can smoke yourself silly for all i care....lmao
ha ha

Louisville, KY

#10 Dec 15, 2007
just candid wrote:
<quoted text>Are you the same nut case who's been saying smokers should be "genociding" non-smokers children?
she is off her rocker! she thinks im a baboon! ha ha
premier

Ennis, TX

#11 Dec 15, 2007
Linda wrote:
Did I miss something in that article
"Rock County Board candidates lining up"
I didn't see anything about IL going smokefree??????????
It is hidden. Go to the bottom and click on editorials. The antis didn't bother to find it.
Anonymouse

Kitchener, Canada

#12 Dec 15, 2007
Jan wrote:
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Hon calm down to each it's own go smoke a doobie and settle down i didn't mean to get you all bent out of shape you can smoke yourself silly for all i care....lmao
Carol seems to be constantly bent out of shape by the look of most of her posts.
Linda

United States

#13 Dec 15, 2007
Found it...
EDITORIAL: Choose liberty, decide for yourself
Posted: Wednesday, Oct 31, 2007 - 11:18:33 am CDT

Believe it or not, people really can run their own lives.
NEWS OUT OF MADISON is that a proposed full-state smoking ban - snuffing the weed in restaurants, bars and virtually all public places - has stalled, and is perhaps dead, after meeting objections in the Wisconsin Senate.

Our response?

Hooray!

If indeed the nannies in state government have been thwarted, that's a victory for liberty.

YES, WE KNOW - and agree: Smoking is a nasty, stinky, unhealthy habit. Kids shouldn't start. Adults ought to quit.

But the key words there are “shouldn't” and “ought to.”

Choice.

What a lovely word.

There's a resurgence in Wisconsin - frankly, in America and in many of our communities - of government's itch to boss people around. For the most part, that comes from the liberal wing.(Or, as they prefer to be called today, the progressives. Apparently, even liberals agree the word liberal puts a bad taste in people's mouths.)

The idea is to identify what is considered the correct outcome. Smoke-free places. Environmental mandates. Government-run health insurance. And so on, and so on.

Then adopt sweeping government policies that make all people fall in line, or else.

Is that the kind of society citizens really want?

IT'S NOT WHAT Sen. Roger Breske, D-Eland, wants when it comes to smoking. Breske threw up the Senate roadblock on the statewide smoking ban. Breske says it would hurt small businesses such as taverns and take away people's rights to choose.

Majority Leader Russ Decker - who took over after Judy Robson was ousted, and on this issue changed the Senate's direction - agrees with Breske. He encourages a compromise between Breske's view and the prohibitionists, but Decker won't force the issue one way or another.

So, maybe, there's room for common sense and liberty. Business operators who believe allowing smoking suits their enterprise and the tastes of their customers, can make the decision themselves. My, my, my ... what a novel idea.

WE HOPE, one day, Americans get tired of acquiescing to the bossy-sassypants crowd and re-assert the right to make their own decisions. Remember, in the minds of the Founders and in the nation's most cherished document, the Constitution, government's authority is strictly limited and the people's rights are pre-eminent. Somehow, in the intervening years, that has been turned upside-down, with bloated government encroaching more and more into each corner of everyday life.

For progressives, that seems to be a good thing.

For the rest of us?

Individual choice is the ultimate liberty ... the right to be left alone. Surrender it at your peril.
Linda

United States

#14 Dec 15, 2007
Anonymouse wrote:
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Carol seems to be constantly bent out of shape by the look of most of her posts.
Aw shucks, you just don't like the truth she post about the lying anti smoking agenda which is all lies. Bet it makes your head sore LOLOL
Linda

United States

#15 Dec 15, 2007
Hey Carol, I think you are bending the antis out of shape LMAO
Anonymous

Kitchener, Canada

#17 Dec 15, 2007
Linda wrote:
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Aw shucks, you just don't like the truth she post about the lying anti smoking agenda which is all lies. Bet it makes your head sore LOLOL
More like makes people's head spin when they look at the ridiculous claims. This response to one of her claims about a virus causing most lung cancers comes from "enough", who I believe is a smoker. I can't take credit for it, but here it is.

A virus that makes someone more susceptible to certain carcinogens? Sure, that's reasonable.

To suggest that a virus that's contagious enough to cause several hundred thousand new cases of lung cancer per year in the US alone would be limited to people in lower SES levels? How is the virus transmitted? Sexual contact, I assume. Even among lower SES levels, at most ~45% of that population smokes. Why does this lung cancer causing virus seem to limit itself mainly to that 45%?
Jan

Baraboo, WI

#18 Dec 15, 2007
Anonymouse wrote:
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Carol seems to be constantly bent out of shape by the look of most of her posts.
Tell me Mr. Anonymouse are you on a laptop using a free WIFI from a public place?
Jan

Baraboo, WI

#19 Dec 15, 2007
This has become a hot topic wow!!! i never knew my comment was going to take off this way
Linda

United States

#20 Dec 15, 2007
Anonymous wrote:
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More like makes people's head spin when they look at the ridiculous claims. This response to one of her claims about a virus causing most lung cancers comes from "enough", who I believe is a smoker. I can't take credit for it, but here it is.
A virus that makes someone more susceptible to certain carcinogens? Sure, that's reasonable.
To suggest that a virus that's contagious enough to cause several hundred thousand new cases of lung cancer per year in the US alone would be limited to people in lower SES levels? How is the virus transmitted? Sexual contact, I assume. Even among lower SES levels, at most ~45% of that population smokes. Why does this lung cancer causing virus seem to limit itself mainly to that 45%?
Can you prove that it is not true? You have the floor, and no opinions or guessing, just hard proof!
Anonymous

Kitchener, Canada

#21 Dec 15, 2007
Jan wrote:
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Tell me Mr. Anonymouse are you on a laptop using a free WIFI from a public place?
No, why do you ask?
Anonymous

Kitchener, Canada

#22 Dec 15, 2007
Linda wrote:
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Can you prove that it is not true? You have the floor, and no opinions or guessing, just hard proof!
The numbers don't add up. I'm not the one who claims that a virus causes lung cancer and not tobacco smoking. You won't find anyone in the medical or scientific community who'll tell you that smoking isn't the primary cause of lung cancer. There are no doubt other factors, but trying to say that smoking is not the biggest factor is unrealistic.

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