New era for Ohio colleges urged

New era for Ohio colleges urged

There are 26 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Mar 31, 2008, titled New era for Ohio colleges urged. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

The head of higher education in Ohio on Monday sought to breathe new life into the late Gov.

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Curious

Massillon, OH

#24 Apr 2, 2008
UA Students Mom wrote:
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I am in agreement with the above post. Although my daughter did exceptionally well in high school, she had a miserable freshman year at Akron U. I agree, freshman students need guidance and support, and should not be thrown to the wolves. All instructors, regardless of degree or teaching level should be required to speak CLEAR English, or sorry, no job. I'm not paying thousands in tuition for my kid to sit in a class only to come home and tell me she could only understand every third word, and then wonder why she's not doing well in the class. In addition, students who both work and attend school, may need other resources to assist them in learning how to juggle the new mix of responsibilities. Students also need far better accessibility to career advisors who understand all the programs at their university and can guide the students toward a degree/career that fits their individual personality/goals and one where there are available jobs. My daughter has been through her 3rd advisor (doesn't say much for staff continuity since she's only been at Akron U for 4 semesters now, does it?). Regardless of the advisor, none have easily accessible and require making an appointment weeks to MONTHS in advance (if you can ever get through the nasty secretary that answers the phone). Yup, we're doing a great job here in Ohio, aren't we???
Where'd she go to high school? Did take college-prep level coursework? If she did so well, why wasn't she placed in the Honors College at Akron?
v racer

Lawrenceville, GA

#25 Apr 2, 2008
30 minute criteria? How come? Too lazy to drive 25 minutes? What a waste of money.
Robin Anderson

AOL

#26 Apr 3, 2008
Another Reader wrote:
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True, but the out-of-state student still pays thousands more per year, even with the additional aid. I seriously doubt that Kent State is actually losing money on these students. If they all left tomorrow, Kent would stand to lose millions of dollars in tuition.
BTW, this (a -partial- waiver of nonresident surcharges) isn't unique to Kent. Ohio State offers a partial waiver in many cases. Just google "nonresident tuition waiver" and you'll see countless entries from universities all over the country.
True...true...but why should the taxpayers of Ohio subsidize any out-of-state students at all, especially if they can already receive a state-funded education in their home state at a tuition rate cheaper than at KSU?
San Antone Bill

San Antonio, TX

#27 Apr 3, 2008
politics as usual wrote:
Before you try this monumental task, why don't you address the fact that less than 50% of the students in Cleveland City Schools graduate high school? Isn't a high school diploma a prerequisite to college entry? Tax and spend for post secondary education doesn't make sense with such a high drop out or failure rate at the secondary level.This should be addressed.Sadly,but once again, common sense is dead and buried with Ohio politicians.If you can't get through high school,college is a moot issue.
I take it you are glass half empty sort of person. If 50% is what we have to work with then let's go from there. The point is there is always going to be challenges and strong teachers are needed. By that I mean not giving up on those high school kids who are struggling. I suggest if kids are put into a different enviroment they would be successful. I'd venture to say at least 50% of those who don't make it in high school.

why not have have boarding school set up for these kids. I am sure the family services department would be a viable source for selection. Remove then and put them in a better enviroment where they aren't doing what ever it takes to survive. we are spending money anyway on detention housing and foster homes,etc... put that money into a more poisitive source of direction for those kids.

A prison setting isn't what I have in mind.

Then send them to college.
Akdave

Buffalo, TX

#28 Apr 3, 2008
UA Students Mom wrote:
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I am in agreement with the above post. Although my daughter did exceptionally well in high school, she had a miserable freshman year at Akron U. I agree, freshman students need guidance and support, and should not be thrown to the wolves. All instructors, regardless of degree or teaching level should be required to speak CLEAR English, or sorry, no job. I'm not paying thousands in tuition for my kid to sit in a class only to come home and tell me she could only understand every third word, and then wonder why she's not doing well in the class. In addition, students who both work and attend school, may need other resources to assist them in learning how to juggle the new mix of responsibilities. Students also need far better accessibility to career advisors who understand all the programs at their university and can guide the students toward a degree/career that fits their individual personality/goals and one where there are available jobs. My daughter has been through her 3rd advisor (doesn't say much for staff continuity since she's only been at Akron U for 4 semesters now, does it?). Regardless of the advisor, none have easily accessible and require making an appointment weeks to MONTHS in advance (if you can ever get through the nasty secretary that answers the phone). Yup, we're doing a great job here in Ohio, aren't we???
Part of the problem is advisors spend so much time answering questions about what credits and classes may clear from other academic programs or schools they really don't do a whole lot of advising. By streamlining the types of degrees available and pushing more standardization advisors will be better able to help the students.
Adieu Akron

United States

#29 Apr 3, 2008
Do all the Buchtelites on here realize what this plan, if implemented, means for Akron? Nothing good, that's for sure!

I mean, seriously, are any of you fully grasping what this eventually portends for the Hilltop?
Because of Akron's notoriously lackluster academics, the university will become a shell of its former self. All that has a high certainty of remaining will be Akron three's reputable programs. Everything else could end up on the chopping block.

Wow! The end is near, Proenza! The bell tolls for thee--and I don't recall a belltower being any part of your reckless, grandiose (especially given Fingerhut's proposals) building plans.

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