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There are 169 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Apr 27, 2008, titled Many schools short on funds charge thousands in tuition to pare.... In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

The Jurkowski family moved to Tallmadge in 2006 because of the district's excellent-rated schools and its free, full-day kindergarten.

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Hudson, OH

#174 Apr 29, 2008
A "Ranch" selling for $300,000 is a pretty good selling price if you ask me! Tallmadge, Stow, Hudson etc... have never really had that big of problems selling houses in their area. I would say that the Ranch owner tried to profit big on their house and ask for the big bucks, they happened to "settle" for 300,000. As for your taxes "Suck it up" Quit crying because you live in a nice area, not getting shot at, no bums asking you for money.... The renters can leave but you can't blame them. Some people I know pay the big rent to live in Tallmadge and Stow nice areas. The owners of those apartments pay taxes. To Grumpy and Joe I guess we all should just throw all of the Tea in the Harbor again, it worked back then. WHy the big fuss over taxes? The schools are not the only thing that is getting taxed, just the one area that you feel is not helping you! I have no kids, I vote for all issues that will help my area stay nice. Keep voting down the school issues, bring down the grade of the schools because they don't have the materials needed and you will sink your own ship! To the guy in stow with the big House "He never knew would increase in value", what a crock! Why would you build something that you thought would never gain value? Gaining in value is a good thing, Did you want to see your house sell for 85,000 or lower 5 years later? This is America so use your vote, and mine will cancel yours out!
Joe from Stow

Stow, OH

#175 Apr 29, 2008
Are you serious wrote:
A "Ranch" selling for $300,000 is a pretty good selling price if you ask me! Tallmadge, Stow, Hudson etc... have never really had that big of problems selling houses in their area. I would say that the Ranch owner tried to profit big on their house and ask for the big bucks, they happened to "settle" for 300,000. As for your taxes "Suck it up" Quit crying because you live in a nice area, not getting shot at, no bums asking you for money.... The renters can leave but you can't blame them. Some people I know pay the big rent to live in Tallmadge and Stow nice areas. The owners of those apartments pay taxes. To Grumpy and Joe I guess we all should just throw all of the Tea in the Harbor again, it worked back then. WHy the big fuss over taxes? The schools are not the only thing that is getting taxed, just the one area that you feel is not helping you! I have no kids, I vote for all issues that will help my area stay nice. Keep voting down the school issues, bring down the grade of the schools because they don't have the materials needed and you will sink your own ship! To the guy in stow with the big House "He never knew would increase in value", what a crock! Why would you build something that you thought would never gain value? Gaining in value is a good thing, Did you want to see your house sell for 85,000 or lower 5 years later? This is America so use your vote, and mine will cancel yours out!
First of all Hudsonite, I never said I didn't think my property would increase in value, but that in 5 years the county says it's worth 110,000 more. Did your home do that? Secondly, no one here has suggested that we don't want to help pay for education. We are suggesting a better more fair way that places the burden more eveningly across ALL citizens including those who tend to use the system more without putting into it. Those that choose to have more children then they can afford to raise has become a problem. Many just rely on the state and county to come to their rescue. if more responsibility was placed upon those who choose to have children then maybe, just maybe we might see them use a little more wisdom and constraint. A consumption based tax system may help do that. Furthermore, the school treasurers love to help people believe that EVERY levy that is ask for is absolutely necessary in order to keep giving children the proper education. But, the whole truth is that, yes, sometimes it is time to pay more, but other times it's time for budget holding and even cutting. When the economy can not support increasing the wages of everyday workers, then those that rely on the taxes from those workers should not expect more money from them. We all have to tighten our budgets and I'm glad that Stow is still able to give a great education and got a A rating by the state and without any new tax levy in place this year. It can be done and it was. We proved to ourselves in this city that cuts can be made without hurting education. Now, most of that levy that asked for was for raises and to give back money to parents who had paid for all day kindergarten. We simply voted no to that because the majority of the citizens decided now was not the right time to ask for more money. We just don't have it. As others have stated, our local officials were told that the present system of collecting property taxes is flawed and in need of change. So far, we have not found politicians to vote for that are willing to tackle this problem.

“Defender of our Constitution”

Since: Nov 07

North Olmsted, OH

#176 Apr 29, 2008
School funding comes from two places -- the state and locally. The 800-pound elephant in the room is that the state has cut its share of funding over the years and has shifted the equation more toward local funding. Rather than raising taxes at the state level, elected officials have chosen to "pass the buck" and have put the burden on the school districts.

Property values and income levels have a direct impact on a districtís ability to raise education revenues. Poor communities - those with a relatively low tax base - must tax themselves at a higher rate than wealthy communities to raise the same revenue. The result? Many school districts with rapidly growing tax bases have been able to increase spending significantly with comparatively minimal tax rate increases. School districts with stagnant or declining tax bases, however, have struggled to maintain spending levels even with significantly greater rate increases.

Bottom line? Most people agree that the way Ohio funds its schools needs to change. But how it should change - that remains the center of the debate.
ANGRY BLACK

Akron, OH

#177 Apr 29, 2008
The Big Lebowski wrote:
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Well, either your house has appreciated to the point that you can no longer afford the taxes, or the county's real estate valuation is too high. If the latter is true, then the Board of Revisions shouldn't have much of an argument to make, as you could show them comps on recent homes sold in your area.
the board of revision is a joke. i went there in 2005 with 22 separate documents supporting my case. the decision- overuled. they do want they want.
Old Man Grump

Akron, OH

#178 Apr 30, 2008
Are you serious wrote:
A "Ranch" selling for $300,000 is a pretty good selling price if you ask me! Tallmadge, Stow, Hudson etc... have never really had that big of problems selling houses in their area. I would say that the Ranch owner tried to profit big on their house and ask for the big bucks, they happened to "settle" for 300,000. As for your taxes "Suck it up" Quit crying because you live in a nice area, not getting shot at, no bums asking you for money.... The renters can leave but you can't blame them. Some people I know pay the big rent to live in Tallmadge and Stow nice areas. The owners of those apartments pay taxes. To Grumpy and Joe I guess we all should just throw all of the Tea in the Harbor again, it worked back then. WHy the big fuss over taxes? The schools are not the only thing that is getting taxed, just the one area that you feel is not helping you! I have no kids, I vote for all issues that will help my area stay nice. Keep voting down the school issues, bring down the grade of the schools because they don't have the materials needed and you will sink your own ship! To the guy in stow with the big House "He never knew would increase in value", what a crock! Why would you build something that you thought would never gain value? Gaining in value is a good thing, Did you want to see your house sell for 85,000 or lower 5 years later? This is America so use your vote, and mine will cancel yours out!
Not when it was valued at $360,000 by the tax appraiser is that a great ranch buy. The problem is housing prices are falling for the first time in memory, and the tax laws do not reflect that reality. Thus because in Ohio we voters have the right to vote on school tax increases unlike PA, we are saying NO NO NO. The state needs to get funding fair and off the backs of real estate owners. That's why a sales/income tax would be the new alternative with re tax as the wild card to be used if locals decide to do something extra.
blank

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#179 Apr 30, 2008
Joe wrote:
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I agree with City Worker. We act like it is our right to have as many kids as we want and everyone should pay for our kid because it is our right. Well, the right to a free education is great, but it only works well in a responsible society that shows some wisdom and even restraint in how many children it can produce and support. Times have changed since decades ago, and we now have too many welfare kids and families to support. They do not pay much if any into the system of which they use. How many times have we seen the food stamps whipped out at the grocery store at the same time the parent pays for booze with the cash they have. Sure, the buy little Johnny's Coco Puffs with the stamps and then they happened to have the cash to pay for the cigs and booze. I have to bite my tougue when I stand behind those type!
With that line of thinking, my grandmother should not get any social security because she never paid into it. I will pay more into it then she and my grandfather ever did.

With public education, someone paid for your education, and some else paid for your childrens education. The schools need the money. As far as casinos paying for public education. That's a great laugh. Just like the lottery was going to fund the schools.

If you want the price of your property to go up, you need to support the schools. It's that simple. You don't support your school system, then ALL of the property values go down.

You are right, times have changed from decades ago. But what right do you have to sacrifice these children. It costs a lot more to raise a child now then it did decades ago. Plus, you still have school fees when the kids attend public schools. It is not free.
Joe

Cleveland, OH

#180 Apr 30, 2008
blank wrote:
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With that line of thinking, my grandmother should not get any social security because she never paid into it. I will pay more into it then she and my grandfather ever did.
With public education, someone paid for your education, and some else paid for your childrens education. The schools need the money. As far as casinos paying for public education. That's a great laugh. Just like the lottery was going to fund the schools.
If you want the price of your property to go up, you need to support the schools. It's that simple. You don't support your school system, then ALL of the property values go down.
You are right, times have changed from decades ago. But what right do you have to sacrifice these children. It costs a lot more to raise a child now then it did decades ago. Plus, you still have school fees when the kids attend public schools. It is not free.
You missed the whole point of my comment. Please go back and read it. We're talking two different topics here. Yes, it certainly does cost more to raise children and parents need to think carefully and plan appropriately to have only the number of children they can properly support.
Tallmadge Taxpayer

AOL

#182 May 1, 2008
My fellow Tallmadgites might want to ask our school board WHY they decided to spend THOUSANDS of our taxpaying dollars to send the Underwood kid to an alternative school when a judge and a psychologist have both stated he would be no threat to ANYONE if he returned to tallmadge. Yeah the kid was wrong, but does anyone honestly think he's gonna ever do anything wrong again????
Old Man Grump

Akron, OH

#183 May 1, 2008
Tallmadge Taxpayer wrote:
My fellow Tallmadgites might want to ask our school board WHY they decided to spend THOUSANDS of our taxpaying dollars to send the Underwood kid to an alternative school when a judge and a psychologist have both stated he would be no threat to ANYONE if he returned to tallmadge. Yeah the kid was wrong, but does anyone honestly think he's gonna ever do anything wrong again????
Good ridance to bad rubbish. He should never, ever mix with normal Tallmadge high school kids again. He really should be in juvy jail for what he did.

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