Ohio.com - Back at you, voters

Ohio.com - Back at you, voters

There are 193 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Jul 30, 2007, titled Ohio.com - Back at you, voters. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

Proponents of increased taxes to support Springfield Schools are pitching a low-key campaign for their operating levy on the Aug.

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oldmangrump

Canton, OH

#1 Jul 30, 2007
Springfield - Defeat number 5 is coming.

What has Springfield done to make the voters want to support the levy? The answer is NOTHING !!!!

They have cut bussing, forced kids to walk, athletics, and pissed people off royally in Springfield with their cost cutting ways. The administrators and teachers didn't cut their salaries did they? Freezes are neutral.

People can't afford the extra $580 per year that the typical #200,000 Springfield home would generate. That's $50 per month, and where do retirees get it from their social security?

This 5th levy will go down to defeat and crash & burn like the others did as will the 6th, 7th, etc..........
youdontdeserveri ghts

United States

#2 Jul 30, 2007
Ohio is in big, big trouble! Keep taxing the people! That will help?!!(sarcasm). How about tax breaks to bring business here?!! Never thought about that ?!!
itsforthekids

Akron, OH

#3 Jul 30, 2007
First off, what does someone from Tallmadge have anything to say about our schools. Secondly, I don't have kids but I will still vote for this levy. If you turn your back on the schools you turn your back on the community.
fixschoolfunding

Hudson, OH

#4 Jul 30, 2007
If you you're unhappy with the way that schools are funded in Ohio, then do something about it. Voting no on local school levies will NOT solve the problem. Contact your local, state, and national representatives and tell them your position on school funding. Give them your suggestions. This is a democracy afterall.
As for the "freezes are neutral" comment made by oldmangrump, freezes are not neutral. With the cost of everything from milk to natural gas increasing, having a pay freeze amounts to a loss of income.
steve

Herndon, VA

#5 Jul 30, 2007
Back in the late eighties,If you older people and those of lakemore(on's) would have passed the merger between the city and the twp., thus stopping Akron from annexing most of the businesses in Springfield. Then maybe you would still have some tax money to pay for your schools. By letting Akron annex most of the businesses in Springfield, you have come to reap what you have sown by having to pay higher property tax 20 years later! You will not draw new people into the twp. without good schools. So suck it up and pass your levy. Everyone else around you has done it, quit making the people of ohio and your children pay the price for you being cheap.
Your only other options will be to split the twp. up and merge with neighboring cities ..ie green, mogadore, conventry and akron.

Since: Mar 07

Tulsa, OK

#6 Jul 30, 2007
((chucklin')) Apparently the school officials didn't believe that voter's were serious the previous four votes. What does that say for the education system.
KBADM11

United States

#7 Jul 30, 2007
This district has had money problems for 25+ years. I've seen board changes, Superintendent changes, pick some changes, and the only thing that remains the same is money problems. The levy will eventually pass and then busness will go on as it has for 25 years - spend until you need more and then go after another levy. This district is a joke from top to bottom. A "poster child" for what is wrong with public education.
concernedmom

Cleveland, OH

#8 Jul 30, 2007
something is seriously wrong here....i dont even know what to say...ive lived in springfield all my life and i have 2 children there now....the levies have been failing since i was a kid....i dont want to move my children to another school...but i think itys going to have to happen in the next couple yrs or something because im not going to have my kids suffer in the long run because companies like to charge so much for things that are scools are suffering like this....this levy is not going to pass ever i know it....even if it did all these cuts would still be in place for our children so why vote yes? why do scools have to pay back an emergency fund "donation" not "loan" give me a break ill pray for the schools and i hope it helps but i dont know if my prayer will be to have this levy pass....thank you
a voice

Warren, OH

#10 Jul 30, 2007
Don't expect God to listen after he has been expelled from school.The way things are going the school will be open for education without all the bells and whistles. All will be well and the taxpayers will be able to donate their $209.00 instead of forced to to be part of status quo. Now they will have to be accountable for all the funds.
fixschoolfunding

Hudson, OH

#11 Jul 30, 2007
I'm sorry if you had lazy teachers when you were in school. I don't know too many lazy teachers, but I am aware of lots of lazy politicians!
fixschoolfunding

Hudson, OH

#12 Jul 30, 2007
Attend your school board meetings and make yourself heard. Also, a "yes" vote for the levy will make money available for the following school year. So the current cuts will stay in place for now, but not forever.
just wondering

Akron, OH

#13 Jul 30, 2007
Has it occured to anyone in Springfield that maybe the levy won't pass again if they are asking for the exact same amount they did last time? The people there have already stated loud and clear that they can't afford that kind of tax hike. How about asking for less rather than receive nothing?
Rick

Stow, OH

#14 Jul 30, 2007
I do not live in Uniontown. I live in Stow. Stow will have a school levy on the ballot in September or November. I have no children in the public schools. I will not listen to the myths, rumors, and complaining. Nobody has provided any evidence that the schools system is loose with our money. Considering what they do, the teachers' salary and benefits package is not unreasonable. I will vote yes. Many people call me an idiot. So be it.
Mayor Quimby

Northbrook, IL

#15 Jul 30, 2007
oldmangrump wrote:
Springfield - Defeat number 5 is coming.
What has Springfield done to make the voters want to support the levy? The answer is NOTHING !!!!
They have cut bussing, forced kids to walk, athletics, and pissed people off royally in Springfield with their cost cutting ways. The administrators and teachers didn't cut their salaries did they? Freezes are neutral.
Hmm, ok so then anytime a business struggles we will just make the Middle management and employees cut their salaries too. That will help. It doesn't what kind of teachers are you going to get in a district that has 10% lower salaries then any of the surrounding communities?

I say keep your horrible opinions and ideas to yourself.
Mayor Quimby

Northbrook, IL

#16 Jul 30, 2007
youdontdeserverights wrote:
Ohio is in big, big trouble! Keep taxing the people! That will help?!!(sarcasm). How about tax breaks to bring business here?!! Never thought about that ?!!
You are probably the same person that has complained about Akron giving Goodyear a break (and support) to try and keep them in the city. Hypocrite!
Zara

Cleveland, OH

#17 Jul 30, 2007
Years ago, there was a city somewhere in Ohio,
who CLOSED down their public schools, due to the lack of money to keep their schools open. The schools was re-opened after a emergency school levy was passed. If the levy keeps failing, more
cuts will be made. All of this will affect real
estate values in Springfield, Ohio.
Nuke Mecca

Europe

#18 Jul 30, 2007
itsforthekids wrote:
First off, what does someone from Tallmadge have anything to say about our schools. Secondly, I don't have kids but I will still vote for this levy. If you turn your back on the schools you turn your back on the community.
You are from Kent. What right do you have?
Mayor Quimby

Northbrook, IL

#19 Jul 30, 2007
a voice wrote:
Don't expect God to listen after he has been expelled from school.
You have a very peculiar outlook on religion. God is everywhere as long as people keep him in their hearts. That doesn't mean you have to pray or teach God in school. Leave that up to the church (and trained theologians) on Wednesday and Sunday.(Though you probably don't even have kids to know when fellowship is)
Mayor Quimby

Northbrook, IL

#20 Jul 30, 2007
And as a general comment:

People keep complaining about "the unconstitutional property taxes we have that pay for school." The tax isn't unconstitutional the distribution of the tax is unconstitutional. The court made a recommendation to find a balanced means of taxing people for public education. This means that people in Hudson shouldn't be taxed 5.6 mils and receive 3 grand per student while people in Kent are taxed 7.9 mils and receive 2 grand per student. The reason the funding situation is unconstitutional is because it violates the equal education ammendements in the Ohio Constitution that were created as a result of the civil right movement "Seperate but equal"
Logic Wins

Akron, OH

#21 Jul 30, 2007
Might be time to think about merging with the APS. Otherwise, the State will step in and make all the decisions.

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