Teacher

Lockport, IL

#41 Jun 5, 2009
taxpayer wrote:
Very well said, but it's not the exposure to negative behaviors that does the harm. It is authority leaving those behaviors unaddressed that delivers the wrong message to the kids.
Most teachers are very good at classroom management and on those rare occasions when they ask for backup, they should get it...from the staff in their building and from the school board.
Exposure to negative behavior does do harm. And it certainly isn't on the rare occasions. Unfortunately the students are getting numb to it. We had a first grader tell a teacher to f*** off, and the rest of the class wasn't shocked.
They should be. When they parents were contacted, they didn't seem to care either. So that student continues that behavior. His classmates have learned all sorts of interesting words this year. There is little help to be had. We have support staff (a social worker and a psychologist) but these are the parents that refuse to have either of these people working with their kid. Parents can do that. We can offer support and they can refuse and there is nothing we can do because of "parent rights" and "parents know their child best". But what the higher ups fail to realize is that there are so many uneducated, unwilling or incapable parents out there that often times, no, parents do not know best.
I really do wish there was a magical fix so that we could get back to teaching instead of crisis management. I don't mean to sound so cynical (it's the end of the year and we're all ready for a break!) We want all of our students to be successful. And many of them are. It's just so frustrating to give your all to a child just to have him, and possible his parents, tell you to F*** Off!
Concerned Mom

AOL

#42 Jun 6, 2009
Are you Kidding wrote:
Everyone and anyone. I originally posted this due to the pictures my daughter brought to my attention and the LACK of attention to behaviors by the principal. I have never had an issue with the school or the principal. My daughter has never been in trouble in the school and has always loved her teachers at Lukancic. These were the best years of her life. My concerns are about recent changes, rumors, and what obviously DID NOT happen at this dance. I have been in contact with more and more Romeoville parents this week. I brought it to the little leage, Park District football, and soccer parent groups. I will not be bringing this to the news. The parent groups will be meeting shortly to call a meeting with the principal and the superintendent. If there is no resolution there, we will call the board and the news at that point. I do not want undue blame. Parents are now coming out of the woodwork. It is time to have the principal be more transparent. They work for the community. If I gained any strength here it is to say I want proof that the school is safe and lies are not being fed to the community. To the comment about me being a child, I am a 37 year old female, a mom of two teens, with a 4-year college degree. I own a small business in a local community and I am a member of a Chamber of Commerce. Also, since Monday, I am now on a newly form parents' forum to help to reform our community. To A HAPPY PARENT, I suggest you join us. To the principal of Lukancic, you will hear from us soon.
Do you have any information on the parents' forum? I, along with many of my friends, would be interested in joining.
Enough

United States

#43 Jun 6, 2009
Are you Kidding wrote:
My daughter is an 8th grader at Lukancic Middle School in Romeoville. She got all dressed up for this event. It was billed as a mini-prom just for the 8th grade students. She came home with stories and pictures on her digital camera that would make people wonder WHO IS RUNNING THIS SCHOOL? There were kids kissing in the lunch room. The dancing was out of control! Girls rubbing their backsides on boys legs. One picture she has is of girls dancing as if they are 22 year old prostitutes. The sickening part of the picture is that the principal is also in the picture looking at the girls dancing. Can a principal be put out by the community? What does it take? Someone help me! Thank the Lord my daughter is done with that school this week.
This blog really has to stop.

If you seriously are threatened by the integrity of the teachers and administration at your child's school don't blog about it, be an ADULT and schedule an appointment with the administration. The only thing you're teaching your kids by "blogging" about an 8th grade dinner dance is that you promote slander on the good people who teach and care for your kids day in and day out. Trust me, your kids will survive the 8th grade dinner dance, but, you're in for a rude awakening if our students catch wind of these kinds of accusations against the staff that that they admire and will remember for the rest of their lives.

Ruining your kid's memories is the only crime I see here.
Are you Kidding

Plainfield, IL

#44 Jun 6, 2009
I looked up the defintion of slander. Slander is when someone says something that is not true. I started this blog to ask for help. Not to accuse. What I wrote was truth and observed by students and by the pictures that many have taken. If you read MY comments, my daughter loves the school and her teachers have been the best. Her cousins in another district have REAL issues with the teachers there. I just wanted help to understand why the principal allows this dancing, kissing, and other behaviors. These are 14 year olds. I have considered talking to the principal, but this thing has grown out of control. I have turned the pictures over to the parent group starting in Romeoville. I want no part of it. My daughter graduates in two days. I refuse to even show up due to what was said on this blog. I asked for help and many of you went off of the deep end. This is all in the hands of the parent group. I am done with you all.
what

United States

#45 Jun 6, 2009
I have turned the pictures over to the parent group starting in Romeoville. I want no part of it. -you r the one who started this-how can you not want to have a part in it--if you really believe it you wouod of kept your mouth shut and the pictures to yourself, drama queen, instigator-those r the terms you need to look up.
Unreal

United States

#46 Jun 6, 2009
Are you serious? You are not going to go to your daughter's graduation because of this? Oh my. What a thing to teach your daughter. What are her feeling about missing her graduation over some pictures *she* took at her dance??????
GetThis

Romeoville, IL

#47 Jun 6, 2009
Hopefully there will be no serious injuries resulting from all the "backpeddling" going on in this thread!

The really sad thing about all of this is the mixed message this poor girl has been given.
If she did the right thing by sharing this experience with Mom why would she be kept from enjoying the milestone she's worked for?
Just saying

Romeoville, IL

#48 Jun 6, 2009
Maybe this particular mom saw some disturbing things about human nature at it's base(ist). She probably is at her wits end and probably feels like she will get clunked over the head over her post.

I will say to her don't live in fear. Go to your child's graduation and be there for her. Nobody will know who you are most likely so why miss it? And even if they do so the heck what.

I have given lots of food for thought on another thread and it is my sincerest hope that some of you parents will see for yourselves that no matter who you are the status quo can and must be challenged. Even if you end up extricating yourselves from the system completely. If not, well, that is ok, too. I must say, our family is happy and thriving. We have friends in school and out of school and in just about every facet of life. I might not have this life if others before me hadn't shown me that there is so much more than what we have come to accept as something that's always been done.Think for yourselves, and research learning and living. It may be bigger than any of you could have ever thought possible. And it doesn't have to involve so much stress or acceptance of things that tell you otherwise. Remember this: We live in the information age. Unfetter yourselves. It takes courage. It starts with you -the parents. You have the whole summer to do your homework ;)
Just saying

Romeoville, IL

#49 Jun 7, 2009
http://sandradodd.com/mindfulness/danielle
Practicing mindfulness is an excellent way to counter the fear-based culture in which we live, providing an antidote to each primetime newscast sensationally reporting yet another threat to ourselves and our children. Fear demands that we dwell in what-ifs and a false future, sacrificing the joy of the moment for the fear of someday. As we work to live in the moment, we recognize more deeply the worries and emotions that wrestle us out of the moment, seeing them for the chimeras they so often are.
A beautiful article and one that can remind us all to just be with our kids. What a great way to start our summer.
just my opinion

Plainfield, IL

#50 Jun 7, 2009
GetThis wrote:
I can't say I wouldn't be disturbed by what went on at that dance just as you all are,however taking it to the media?
Really now,just what is to be gained there besides more negative attention.
I'm not sure what the population of that school is but I'd bet there are far more good kids there than those you are referring to.
I would have a tough time being the cause of embarrasing everyone just to make a point of exposing the few.
Should you express your anger to the principal?
You bet you should, but frankly I am sick of people who sit back and encourage one another to fill the media with info that could and should be dealt with directly!
Hold those involved responsible for sure but in a more dignified manner.
I don't think this will be embarassing to these kids. If they have no problem behaving this way in front of teachers and staff then they believe this is acceptable. How else can parents begin to make a change in their kids' schools if there is not done through the media? The school board will never listen unless forced to listen. Send the pictures!
GetThis

Romeoville, IL

#51 Jun 7, 2009
You missed my point,the media being brought into this will probably not be of concern to "those" in the pictures you so dearly want publicized.
But what about the rest of the kids,parents,staff who will undoubtedly be lumped in with the offenders?
How many times will they have to hear "Oh your part of THAT school".
How often have you approached the school board and been ignored yourself,or is this just all an assumption?
Parents can begin to make a change by being a parent,not just by giving birth,but by being involved,visable,vocal if need be but in a direct manner,to those who we trust our children to for 8hrs a day.
Once again,try the direct route before you bring on Gerry Springer!
Are you Kidding

Plainfield, IL

#52 Jun 7, 2009
Just saying wrote:
Maybe this particular mom saw some disturbing things about human nature at it's base(ist). She probably is at her wits end and probably feels like she will get clunked over the head over her post.
I will say to her don't live in fear. Go to your child's graduation and be there for her. Nobody will know who you are most likely so why miss it? And even if they do so the heck what.
I have given lots of food for thought on another thread and it is my sincerest hope that some of you parents will see for yourselves that no matter who you are the status quo can and must be challenged. Even if you end up extricating yourselves from the system completely. If not, well, that is ok, too. I must say, our family is happy and thriving. We have friends in school and out of school and in just about every facet of life. I might not have this life if others before me hadn't shown me that there is so much more than what we have come to accept as something that's always been done.Think for yourselves, and research learning and living. It may be bigger than any of you could have ever thought possible. And it doesn't have to involve so much stress or acceptance of things that tell you otherwise. Remember this: We live in the information age. Unfetter yourselves. It takes courage. It starts with you -the parents. You have the whole summer to do your homework ;)
thank you!
augiegal

Island Lake, IL

#53 Jun 8, 2009
I, too, have a daughter at Lukancic. I asked her about this and she knew nothing of it. I'd encourage you to speak to the Principal and administration at the school. I find it hard to believe that he would sit and watch something inappropriate.

I would highly discourage you from talking to the media. This could invite backlash for your daughter, something that could be very difficult for her.

I would say that most of the kids at the school are great kids. However, there are always a few that just don't quite get it. And, if these pictures made you uncomfortable, then you should tell the Principal.

To go the media without going through him or the District, is not really fair.

I hope you'll reconsider talking to the media.
Failed Parenting

Englewood, CO

#54 Jun 8, 2009
It is today's society that puts the power in the hands of these type of children. I think until you have worked in the school system you need to be careful before you start pointing the finger at people. You think children act this way at only this school. If you do you are mistaken. The school is not a replacement for a parent. I have heard of parents stating "Well that is the way I was and I turned out ok". I know this principle and many teachers in this school and they are all the most patient hard working individuals. Stop blaming them for failed parents. These are the same kids that parents will stand up for when they get kick out of school. Give me a break. That is the problem with this society. Take ownership of your own children and stop blaming some one else.
Grow Up

Huntley, IL

#55 Jun 10, 2009
All comments but 2 (the good ones) have NO IDEA what they are talking about. How pathetic of you to call these kids idiots, whores, etc. 1 or 2 bad apples do not spoil the whole bunch. They still are kids!! It all starts @ home!!!
Where are you PARENTS?? Seriously. Stop hiding behind your words because you DON'T know what you're talking about....trust me, you don't. They are kids & they will try to dance a certain way but TRUST me they are broken up every time, they try it again and they are broken up again. I KNOW YOU DON"T THINK THIS JUST HAPPENS IN ROMEOVILLE!!! The pictures you say you have was of bad timing...something was done about it!! Get a life, find something better to do besides bash the administration behind their back. Talk face to face with them. Isn't that how it use to be done? GROW UP ADULTS!! Bring your pictures to the principal...voice your concerns but don't sit on here & say things that you know NOTHING about!! Its a GREAT school for your kids to attend. Sounds to me like someone is being a bit vindictive about something. Try another approach like talking to the right people, the administration at JJL.
vote

Romeoville, IL

#56 Jun 14, 2009
it should be mandatory for parents to attend the dance if their child attends. I doubt these kids would act this way if their parents were watching. I would take those pictures to the next school board meeting and ask them to comment on them and give them a chance to address the situation. If they don't then maybe go to the media with them and out the people who don't feel its necessary to address the situation.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#57 Jun 15, 2009
IMHO wrote:
Same way at AVM. My son stopped going to the dances.
I was at a dance at IHK and the girls were dancing the same way. it's pretty disgusting.
Thank god I have boys that want nothing to do with the tramps in this town. Sports mean more to them than hooking up with some little girl who has probably humped every other boy in town.
I agree it is the parents. They need to start taking responsbility and know what their kids are up to. Most of the parents could care less as long as the kid is out of their hair for the night...wouldn't want to ruin a good drink night at LA having to deal with being a parent and raising you dang kid.
Losers raise losers.
Just out of curiosity,what dance was at IHK? it's a grade school.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#58 Jun 15, 2009
I to have a daughter that just graduated from Lukancic. She showed me her pictures as well. Though I didn't see any dance pictures, just her friends acting silly for the camera, she did tell me how through out the school year, the monthly dances were all canceled due to the sexy dancing going on. She knows of two girls that are pregnant there. An 8th grader who is due in about 5 weeks. She was in the graduating class. And a 7th grader who is about 3-4 months along.
Thank God my daughter is a little on the immature side. I won't let her have a cell phone or a boyfriend. No low cut shirts, or short skirts. I guess I'm a little old fashion. Why draw attention to herself? I tell her, there's no hurry. She tells me how she's the only one who does not have a cell or a boyfriend. I tell her, she's also the only one without a reputation, one that boys will respect later.
OH BOO HOO

Chicago, IL

#59 Jun 16, 2009
You are right it's the parents responsibility on how their kids act.
concerned wrote:
My question is who on Earth are these parents that have raised children to act this way? SOMEONE had to buy their clothing, SOMEONE has to pay the cable/internet bill where they are exposed to this sort of behavior. PARENTS are a child's number one example people! Here's a thought: HOW ABOUT INSTILLING SOME VALUES IN YOUR CHILDREN PARENTS INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT IN THE HANDS OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM???? Let's start seening some accountablity-- you reap what you sew.
OH BOO HOO

Chicago, IL

#60 Jun 16, 2009
VVDS has a lot of teacher that should not be teaching. I have seen teachers talking down to kids are that is sickening and always wonder how my kid is being treated. I am surprise they don't get disrespected more often by the kids. A lot of teachers should not be teaching and who is responsible for checking the teachers out? The way you treat and talk to someone that is the same way you will be treated and talked back to. To the Teacher if you do not like kids DO NOT TEACH find yourself another job. Teaching should be fun and creative NOT strict with screaming teachers that donít have the patients for kids.

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