RCSD BOE Meeting
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New Hartford, NY

#1 Apr 18, 2013
Bravo to the parents,teachers,students that stood up and spoke.These issues need to be dealt with and not ignored. I applaud you brave people who spoke last night.

Since: Jan 08

Rome

#2 Apr 18, 2013
It was heartbreaking to read a 6th-grader's comments about bullying in my home town.

"Schools also must come up with age-appropriate disciplinary measures for students who violate the regulations, and report bullying incidents to the state."

I can tell you what worked when I was in school.

"School board President Patricia Riedel said the board is aware of the problems."

“The board is very concerned over the bullying that is going on,” she said. "The board will take very seriously everything we have been told this evening."

Try again Mrs. Riedel. Taking it seriously does not feed the bulldog. If the board is aware of it, why hasn't every administrator who failed to address it been fired? Keep it up and the board will be fired.
Curious

Rochester, NY

#3 Apr 18, 2013
Frank,

What do you suggest is done with students who not only don't behave but have parents who could care less whetehr or not they exhibit appropriate behavior in school or not?

You can't paddle the kids - and for the most part it takes an act of congress to expell a child - and even then you MUST provide educational services.

So what do we do?
Old school

New Hartford, NY

#4 Apr 18, 2013
To begin with,they should be paddled,and their parents too for spoiling these kids and siding with the bullies. Lessons need to be learned, these bullies are not learning life lessons at home obviously.Thats the first step,then suspend,if they miss classes due to suspensions and fail so be it,go to summerschool.Then they need a BOOTCAMP in this city. One run my marines to teach these children how to respect others.
depends

Utica, NY

#5 Apr 18, 2013
Curious wrote:
Frank,
What do you suggest is done with students who not only don't behave but have parents who could care less whetehr or not they exhibit appropriate behavior in school or not?
You can't paddle the kids - and for the most part it takes an act of congress to expell a child - and even then you MUST provide educational services.
So what do we do?
Well lets see. If the parents dont care then haul their asses into Court. I was sent to a boys home for skipping school. Go back to the old ways and throw PC out the door. There is a start.
snitch

Utica, NY

#6 Apr 18, 2013
The option they have now is to suspend the kids, by sending them to the alternative school on Floyd ave. for 2 hrs a day. My suggestion in school suspension for the whole day. After a day or 2 they will starting thinking was it worth it. Sometime boredom makes you think clearly.
Seriously

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Apr 18, 2013
I find it funny that ms. Fulgeri is talking about bullying ! She is a bully, ever hear the way she talks to her students. She is a disgrace and should be fired!
Freebie the Bean

Syracuse, NY

#8 Apr 18, 2013
If Board prez Riedel's attitude is they are aware of the problem and are concerned thats hardly any consolation to the affected party. I think its time Riedel rethink the problem and come up with a different way to address the problem or she should step aside or step down as board prez. She looks too old to be there anyhow.

Since: Jan 08

Rome

#9 Apr 18, 2013
See, here's the deal. I figure we spend $101+ million a year on our schools. That should be more than enough to keep our schools safe.

Old School suggests some common-sense approaches.

On the other hand, we pay our superintendent to address bullying. Don't ask me how to fix it. I'm just the customer. Ask him. Or ask his replacement.
I know

Newington, CT

#10 Apr 18, 2013
Lets wait until one kid commits suicide......it is common aftermath of bullying. If the parents can sue....THEN it will be addressed!

Get a real superintendant and board to be proactive on the problem! This one obviously is not......

They must go.....
Freebie the Bean

Syracuse, NY

#11 Apr 18, 2013
It could also come down to this...if the parent of the victim feels the RCSB is NOT taking care of the problem, there's always litigation. Does Simons , Riedel, & the rest of the school board want to go down that road? How much do they have in the reserve fund? About $10-15M?? They better do more than just say they are aware of the problem.
Mom

Brooklyn, NY

#12 Apr 18, 2013
Many of the ideas here make a lot of sense. I love the idea of a boot camp for kids who don't behave. Make being out of school as difficult as possible then hopefully doing the right thing in school will be an easier choice for kids. I also applaude those who spoke at the board meeting. I was a very brave thing to do. I also applaude the people from the audience who called for the superintendent's resignation. Bravo!!
Young mom

Oneonta, NY

#13 Apr 18, 2013
snitch wrote:
The option they have now is to suspend the kids, by sending them to the alternative school on Floyd ave. for 2 hrs a day. My suggestion in school suspension for the whole day. After a day or 2 they will starting thinking was it worth it. Sometime boredom makes you think clearly.
I disagree with you. The truth is those kids get bored in school and find enjoyment in distracting others. Suspending them is like a vacation day because chances are they are being forced to go to school by some higher jurisdiction.
UGH

Saranac Lake, NY

#14 Apr 18, 2013
Okay I think that threatening to kill a teacher is beyond being a bad kid. It is assault. The kid really should go to jail. Beyond bullying. And from what I read the solution was to put the kid in another class. BIG PUNISHMENT!!! Wait until the kid kills his parents and then put him in jail.
Young mom

Oneonta, NY

#15 Apr 18, 2013
I just can't believe how many evil kids there are. I'm not talking about your typical immature kids that occasionally say or do something stupid (they are more manageable). I'm talking about the kids that seek pleasure in terrorizing people. Those monstrous kids don't fear anybody and our schools don't need students like them. Those kids need to be in a separate program that are prepared to deal with these kids. In addition, I'm also very shocked on how many of our young students are so overwhelmed with the harassment that they are causing self inflicting injuries. It's so sad to learn that multiple kids in our Jr High have already attempted suicide. Unfortunately, these students are at high risk in becoming a threat in our schools too if we don't take drastic measures. Too many students are a ticking time bomb and very few people are prepared to save them.
Retired

Saranac Lake, NY

#16 Apr 18, 2013
frankcor wrote:
It was heartbreaking to read a 6th-grader's comments about bullying in my home town.
"Schools also must come up with age-appropriate disciplinary measures for students who violate the regulations, and report bullying incidents to the state."
I can tell you what worked when I was in school.
"School board President Patricia Riedel said the board is aware of the problems."
“The board is very concerned over the bullying that is going on,” she said. "The board will take very seriously everything we have been told this evening."
Try again Mrs. Riedel. Taking it seriously does not feed the bulldog. If the board is aware of it, why hasn't every administrator who failed to address it been fired? Keep it up and the board will be fired.
It has been an on going issue, and administration turns their heads to the problem hoping it will go away. Before I retired from a school system, my administration’s response to mine, and student complaints about bullying was meet with hostility, and usually directed at the one who complained. It is going to take a suit, or another death before anything other than slapping their wrist is going to happen. There should be a zero tolerance policy, and by zero tolerance I mean zero tolerance. No more of these five days out for offences, and the parents should be billed everyday they are out..
smile

Blossvale, NY

#17 Apr 18, 2013
Curious wrote:
Frank,

What do you suggest is done with students who not only don't behave but have parents who could care less whetehr or not they exhibit appropriate behavior in school or not?

You can't paddle the kids - and for the most part it takes an act of congress to expell a child - and even then you MUST provide educational services.

So what do we do?
Throw them out!
Curious

Rochester, NY

#18 Apr 19, 2013
smile wrote:
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Throw them out!
Maybe you missed what I said, I said even when they are expelled you MUST provide the with an alternative education.
Retired

Saranac Lake, NY

#19 Apr 19, 2013
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe you missed what I said, I said even when they are expelled you MUST provide the with an alternative education.
That is true, but the taxpayers are paying for them to stay home and play with their XBoxes, and cellphones for the most part of the day. That need sto stop. The parents should be billed for it and not paid for by the taxpayers.
UGH

Saranac Lake, NY

#20 Apr 19, 2013
Well apparently the parents are not involved or do not care. Sorry but much of the problems with kids has to do with their parents. I can only imagine what the kids will be like when they get a bit older. Maybe every parent should honestly look at him/her self, and make an assessment. Did you instill positive values in your children? Did you discipline and really teach your kids right from wrong? Did you not base all decisions relating to your children on which decision would result in them still liking you? Did you set an example for your kids instead of trying to be their best friend and not upset them?

There are so many things wrong with kids these days and so much wrong with parents. Everyone painting a happy picture.....

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