law suit against the city
roman moronie

Ardsley, NY

#41 Apr 30, 2013
AnnB58 wrote:
<quoted text>I agree wth Frankie how do you "think" you know so much???

3. The stoys refused to comply and delayed in making the necessary corrections. Therefore the city revoked the certificate of occupancy. The city would have done that to any other business or individual not in compliance.

You are SO wrong when stating this!! Do you think by making statements like this it will set you free and people will believe you?? Opps wrong again!

Mark you might want to make sure Joe knows CPR cause your going to need it when you choke on ur own words!

The stoys have never refused to do anything that would better them or their building!! Bottom line! You "tried" to screw them!! You and ur buddy Joe!!

They say every dog has their day and guess what??? All I have to say right now is "Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?? Bad boys bad boys"
I am not mark
roman moronie

Ardsley, NY

#42 Apr 30, 2013
Concerned wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry to disagree with you but here is why. I worked for the company that was hired to remediate the property. There was working alarms, and sprinklers in the building. The building was not dangerous. As for the person stating about the tarps. The whole building is extremely large and an open area, and they wanted it kept that way. The tarps were put up to keep people from going back where people were storing their personal items, such as tools they were using to repair the place and did not want people pawing through their stuff. They were up to keep people out nothing more. So your statement was bogus. There are too many people that know Fusco was just screwing with Alex as payback, and they know why he is doing what he is doing.
If there is a working fire alarm with bells, strobes, horns , pull stations and smoke detectors then it was recently installed. The building did not have such a system when it was shit down.

As far as the blue tarps. Common sense says that you don't use flammable items to divide a space especially when you have open flame heat sources such as salamander heaters and propane pot heaters or radiant heaters mounted on top of a propane tank.

I have no ties to Fusco or Domenico. So we can all stop that accusation. I picked the user name roman moronie for one reason. It translates to Rome moron. Just like all of the people left in this town.
Voter

Saranac Lake, NY

#43 Apr 30, 2013
roman moronie wrote:
<quoted text>
If there is a working fire alarm with bells, strobes, horns , pull stations and smoke detectors then it was recently installed. The building did not have such a system when it was shit down.
As far as the blue tarps. Common sense says that you don't use flammable items to divide a space especially when you have open flame heat sources such as salamander heaters and propane pot heaters or radiant heaters mounted on top of a propane tank.
I have no ties to Fusco or Domenico. So we can all stop that accusation. I picked the user name roman moronie for one reason. It translates to Rome moron. Just like all of the people left in this town.
You know you are really reaching with your post. For crying out loud if I purchased a building that large do you really think I want to wall it all in to make smaller spaces. No I would want the large space to fit my needs not what someone else wants. That is stupid. So the tarps crap deviding the place made sense. They followed the fire codes and to do everything you say needs to be done was again wrong. The place meet the requirements, and it was granted a permit to operate and there was no problemms with it until Fusco go into office and all of a sudden there was all these problems. That is again is bullshit. Fusco used the office to screw with Alex and everyone knows it. I hope when it is over, criminal charges for corruption and abuse of authority is filed against him.
roman moronie

Ardsley, NY

#44 Apr 30, 2013
Voter wrote:
<quoted text>You know you are really reaching with your post. For crying out loud if I purchased a building that large do you really think I want to wall it all in to make smaller spaces. No I would want the large space to fit my needs not what someone else wants. That is stupid. So the tarps crap deviding the place made sense. They followed the fire codes and to do everything you say needs to be done was again wrong. The place meet the requirements, and it was granted a permit to operate and there was no problemms with it until Fusco go into office and all of a sudden there was all these problems. That is again is bullshit. Fusco used the office to screw with Alex and everyone knows it. I hope when it is over, criminal charges for corruption and abuse of authority is filed against him.
Our building codes are made by the state not the city. The city enforces the state building code. So it doesn't matter what someone's budget is or how their building is layed out. They have to comply with codes if they are going to have the general public assemble in their building. That's the bottom line. So everyone can cry and day the city did it to them. It would be no different any where else.
Frankie

Brooklyn, NY

#45 Apr 30, 2013
seems like some people know each side of the story and none of it appears completely correct. My guess is that bath sides had issues, some personal, some professional.
Looks like a good case of "Check Mate" to me, and will be real interesting to see what happens now.
Will the other renters be allowed back in to actually work and or sell their items, or will the codes department shut them down before they get started again.
Stay tuned and you guys in the know keep us informed. Let us know when the building is rentable and the Vendors Market is really opened.
Voter

Saranac Lake, NY

#46 Apr 30, 2013
roman moronie wrote:
<quoted text>
Our building codes are made by the state not the city. The city enforces the state building code. So it doesn't matter what someone's budget is or how their building is layed out. They have to comply with codes if they are going to have the general public assemble in their building. That's the bottom line. So everyone can cry and day the city did it to them. It would be no different any where else.
The state provides guidelines, and each city can and do make their own guides. Look dumb ass you can keep up your crap, but I have a codes book and I know what and who establishes the codes. The city has and does have the authority to make additions to the state GUIDELINES, and not laws. The laws are adopted or based on those guidelines and the city council can and do make changes to those guideline. Its called a charter change which they can do if that is required. They in all cases can be based even on the needs and desires of the public. So go back and kiss Joe's ring or his ass which ever is you preferred choice.
roman moronie

Ardsley, NY

#47 Apr 30, 2013
Voter wrote:
<quoted text>The state provides guidelines, and each city can and do make their own guides. Look dumb ass you can keep up your crap, but I have a codes book and I know what and who establishes the codes. The city has and does have the authority to make additions to the state GUIDELINES, and not laws. The laws are adopted or based on those guidelines and the city council can and do make changes to those guideline. Its called a charter change which they can do if that is required. They in all cases can be based even on the needs and desires of the public. So go back and kiss Joe's ring or his ass which ever is you preferred choice.
Do you have a codes book or a code book? Dumbass

What's a matter Ed?
Bad info

Brooklyn, NY

#48 May 1, 2013
Voter wrote:
<quoted text>
The state provides guidelines, and each city can and do make their own guides. Look dumb ass you can keep up your crap, but I have a codes book and I know what and who establishes the codes. The city has and does have the authority to make additions to the state GUIDELINES, and not laws. The laws are adopted or based on those guidelines and the city council can and do make changes to those guideline. Its called a charter change which they can do if that is required. They in all cases can be based even on the needs and desires of the public. So go back and kiss Joe's ring or his ass which ever is you preferred choice.
This is simply not true. A municipality can petition the State for a more restrictive local law by first passing a resolution and then making application to the department of state codes division. It is then a decision of the state to approve the revised provision and authorize that municipality to enforce that specific code provision. In no case can a state code provision be appealed by a municipality to be less restrictive.
glenn

Watertown, NY

#49 May 1, 2013
roman moronie wrote:
<quoted text>
Our building codes are made by the state not the city. The city enforces the state building code. So it doesn't matter what someone's budget is or how their building is layed out. They have to comply with codes if they are going to have the general public assemble in their building. That's the bottom line. So everyone can cry and day the city did it to them. It would be no different any where else.
From The Sentinal, Jan.2, 2013...."The admimistration inherieted a state Supreme Court order for the company (Eisenburg's building) to perform remediation and demolition of various buildings in the complexon Railroad street, however, in early 2012 Fusco said he was taking a new approach: work with the company to do the work while attracting interest from new tennants. Fusco said he didn't want to force compliance and push the company out of Rome..." Fusco even had his staff look into getting the building grant money!

Some kid got killed on that property, and Fusco wants to get them grant money, while not enforcing codes. Alex hangs some tarps that took less than an hour to remove, and his building gets shut down for a year?

Between Eisenburg's buildings and Woodhaven, it's a laughable concept that Rome must enforce The Uniform Code.
Voter

Saranac Lake, NY

#50 May 1, 2013
Bad info wrote:
<quoted text>
This is simply not true. A municipality can petition the State for a more restrictive local law by first passing a resolution and then making application to the department of state codes division. It is then a decision of the state to approve the revised provision and authorize that municipality to enforce that specific code provision. In no case can a state code provision be appealed by a municipality to be less restrictive.
nice copy and paste, now go back and read the whole thing. The common council can and does have the authority to establish code. It requires in most cases a charter change. You can argue and copy and past the whole book for all I care. The fact of the matter is Fusco has had it in for him for years. Fusco is trying to bend the codes to screw with him and others, and that is a fact and it is going to come out in court and then what page in the law are you going to post to justify his actions. You won't because he is an abusive idiot.
roman moronie

Oneida, NY

#51 May 1, 2013
glenn wrote:
<quoted text>From The Sentinal, Jan.2, 2013...."The admimistration inherieted a state Supreme Court order for the company (Eisenburg's building) to perform remediation and demolition of various buildings in the complexon Railroad street, however, in early 2012 Fusco said he was taking a new approach: work with the company to do the work while attracting interest from new tennants. Fusco said he didn't want to force compliance and push the company out of Rome..." Fusco even had his staff look into getting the building grant money!

Some kid got killed on that property, and Fusco wants to get them grant money, while not enforcing codes. Alex hangs some tarps that took less than an hour to remove, and his building gets shut down for a year?

Between Eisenburg's buildings and Woodhaven, it's a laughable concept that Rome must enforce The Uniform Code.
If I remember correctly the person that was killed was trespassing on the roof and fell through a skylight and died. Yes it was tragic however if someone trespassed on your roof and died would you want your house shut down? The building was or is abandoned like most of the buildings in that area and the general public does not have access to it.

I'm not here to argue politics. I'm just stating facts as they related to building codes.
The rod mill building is a mixed use commercial building and there is specific building codes that need to be adhered to. That's it, plain and simple. Alex did not want to make the necessary changes to comply. He kept delaying and delaying until he was forced to.
Think of the old price chopper that was converted to a strip mall. All of those spaces are divided by a fire wall which is wall with 5/8 fire rated Sheetrock on each side and the building is sprinkled. That is also a mixed use commercial building with retail and auto repair.
If these walls were not there the stores would never been able to open.

Wood haven are not single family residences and again they need to be separated by firewalls.
glenn

Watertown, NY

#52 May 1, 2013
That's the point of the lawsuit. It was politics. The delay was caused by Mark. Nine months to approve a permit? It's not like Echo Beach filled out some online-hack permit with a crayon and handed it over to the city. They used a pro, who has done huge projects for Rome and other cities. Someone with many years more experience than Mark.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#53 May 1, 2013
roman moronie wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have a codes book or a code book? Dumbass
What's a matter Ed?
I can tell you that isn't Ed. He don't even use the internet moron. Pretty sad when you have to hide behind a namer like moron then refer to yourself as a moron
Concerned

Saranac Lake, NY

#54 May 1, 2013
roman moronie wrote:
<quoted text>
If I remember correctly the person that was killed was trespassing on the roof and fell through a skylight and died. Yes it was tragic however if someone trespassed on your roof and died would you want your house shut down? The building was or is abandoned like most of the buildings in that area and the general public does not have access to it.
I'm not here to argue politics. I'm just stating facts as they related to building codes.
The rod mill building is a mixed use commercial building and there is specific building codes that need to be adhered to. That's it, plain and simple. Alex did not want to make the necessary changes to comply. He kept delaying and delaying until he was forced to.
Think of the old price chopper that was converted to a strip mall. All of those spaces are divided by a fire wall which is wall with 5/8 fire rated Sheetrock on each side and the building is sprinkled. That is also a mixed use commercial building with retail and auto repair.
If these walls were not there the stores would never been able to open.
Wood haven are not single family residences and again they need to be separated by firewalls.
Right. Having personal knowledge of the building and what Alex did when he took over the building and tried to make something out of nothing. He did everything codes told him he needed to do and then some. So don't keep spouting lies that Alex refused to what he was told to do because thats and outright lie, and you know it if you know anything at all. Which is apparent you are talking out your ass on the subject.
Dan

Dover, DE

#55 May 1, 2013
roman moronie wrote:
<quoted text>
If there is a working fire alarm with bells, strobes, horns , pull stations and smoke detectors then it was recently installed. The building did not have such a system when it was shit down.
As far as the blue tarps. Common sense says that you don't use flammable items to divide a space especially when you have open flame heat sources such as salamander heaters and propane pot heaters or radiant heaters mounted on top of a propane tank.
I have no ties to Fusco or Domenico. So we can all stop that accusation. I picked the user name roman moronie for one reason. It translates to Rome moron. Just like all of the people left in this town.
You picked a GREAT Name-cause you ARE a moron!
wendy

Utica, NY

#56 May 1, 2013
Dear Mr. Moronie, Once again please check public records. That building has approved plans as NOT NEEEDING FIREWALLS. As for your roof comment, I CERTAINLY WOULD WANT MY PROPERTY CLOSED DOWN until a roof that met the codes requirement for snow load and safety were installed. A roof made of fiberglass or plastic sheets is a disaster wait to happen. It did. Some kid is dead. But maybe its ok to let the owner slide. NOT!!!!

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#57 May 1, 2013
roman moronie wrote:
<quoted text>
If I remember correctly the person that was killed was trespassing on the roof and fell through a skylight and died. Yes it was tragic however if someone trespassed on your roof and died would you want your house shut down? The building was or is abandoned like most of the buildings in that area and the general public does not have access to it.
I'm not here to argue politics. I'm just stating facts as they related to building codes.
The rod mill building is a mixed use commercial building and there is specific building codes that need to be adhered to. That's it, plain and simple. Alex did not want to make the necessary changes to comply. He kept delaying and delaying until he was forced to.
Think of the old price chopper that was converted to a strip mall. All of those spaces are divided by a fire wall which is wall with 5/8 fire rated Sheetrock on each side and the building is sprinkled. That is also a mixed use commercial building with retail and auto repair.
If these walls were not there the stores would never been able to open.
Wood haven are not single family residences and again they need to be separated by firewalls.
Let me ask you this!!! YOU keep referring to making the statement "ALEX did not want to make the necessary changes to comply" Where are YOU getting ALL your info from??? I am here to tell you that EVERYTHING that was asked of the stoy's was done willingly and even beyond what was required!! I KNOW this for a fact because I was there!!! Now.... want to argue with me moron? You know shit!
GAMEWARDEN

Holland Patent, NY

#58 May 1, 2013
hmm ripping off saint marys ripping off rome cable ripping off rome i am sick of these italians jr gangsters thinking they are cool someone should get a gun and shooting them down and then claim insanity hmm good idea. you think that antique shp makes money I dont its a front to launder all the money they ripp off from st marys and rome yeah babyu
wendy

Utica, NY

#59 May 1, 2013
Dear MR Moronie, You went from a list of supposed facts to suppositions. Fact checking is important when speaking publicly. You Present yourself as having detail knowledge of the situation. You also "appear" to have a limited working knowledge of codes regs both city and state. You say you do not have affiliations with a number of parties involved. You did leave one out one group of people that would have "some limited knowledge" of this matter in its early stages. Or maybe your a relative. If im correct , and i might not be because its just a WORTHLESS SUPPOSITION im sure your or their superiors would not be happy. But that should not stop you from stroking your ego and commenting. Its a free country isnt it?
Otis

Saranac Lake, NY

#60 May 1, 2013
wendy wrote:
Dear MR Moronie, You went from a list of supposed facts to suppositions. Fact checking is important when speaking publicly. You Present yourself as having detail knowledge of the situation. You also "appear" to have a limited working knowledge of codes regs both city and state. You say you do not have affiliations with a number of parties involved. You did leave one out one group of people that would have "some limited knowledge" of this matter in its early stages. Or maybe your a relative. If im correct , and i might not be because its just a WORTHLESS SUPPOSITION im sure your or their superiors would not be happy. But that should not stop you from stroking your ego and commenting. Its a free country isnt it?
Mr. Moron is only providing information he is being told to report based on the "Help Cover My Ass I screwed Up" people. Ir is apparent he has no first hand information of anything.

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