jeff simons is pizzed about his pay cut
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Too Bad

Ashburn, VA

#21 Mar 5, 2011
sentinel wrote:
Gov. Andrew Cuomo has ramped up his attack on school superintendents, proposing a sliding salary cap that could force most local school chiefs to take a 30 percent to 50 percent cut in pay.
Cuomo's proposal would cap superintendent salaries at $125,000 to $175,000 a year, depending on the size of the school district. He said the move would save $15 million statewide.
Currently, only one superintendent in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties makes less than $175,000 in salary.
Garrison schools chief Gloria Colucci, who oversees the region's tiniest district with about 280 students, earns $164,000.
The average superintendent's salary in the Lower Hudson Valley is $241,255 — 37.9 percent higher than Cuomo's proposed maximum cap. They also receive an average of $44,774 in benefits, which would be unaffected.
Eastchester Superintendent Marilyn Terranova, president-elect of the New York State Council of School Superintendents, said the savings proposed by Cuomo would be negligible.
"I don't think that the governor is going to be well-liked and be seen as a white knight in shining armor," said Terranova, whose salary is $238,855. She has not received a raise in three years.
The five highest salaries in the region go to Edgemont's Nancy Taddiken ($299,963), Pearl River's Frank Auriemma ($289,228) Scarsdale's Michael McGill ($288,561), Harrison's Louis Wool ($287,074), and Rye Neck's Peter Mustich ($286,575).
Jill Spieler, president of the Scarsdale Board of Education, said she didn't understand why Cuomo wanted to take away local control.
"I think the governor is trying to take away a lot of the autonomy and decision-making power from the local level," Spieler said. "He is avoiding the issues, the ones that need to be addressed."
Spieler noted that many assistant superintendents and even principals in the region have salaries that exceed the proposed cap.
Cuomo's bill, introduced Monday, would have to be approved by the Legislature. It would put the cap into effect once current contracts expire.
These salaries are absolutely insane, PhD or not! You could justify this type of salary level in the private sector…..”for profit” businesses. The school systems are “not for profit” and are supported by hard working property owners (including retirees lucky enough to still be in their own homes). America’s ranking in the world for science and math has slipped to 25th place (give or take). When I was a kid America was # 1. I recently read an item in a local newspaper by a knowledgeable writer that stated that the School Boards were originally established to liaison with the community….the property taxpayers. We’ve certainly drifted far away from that concept. Cuomo recently traveled the state and told his audiences that they, we, are responsible for the dysfunction behavior of our elected officials because WE have not pressed them to do the right thing. Let’s start pressing them…..and start with the school board. School Board meetings are posted in the Sentinel; watch for “Meetings” generally on page # 3. See you ALL at the next meeting, yes?
Too Bad

Ashburn, VA

#22 Mar 5, 2011
AndTheyComeOut wrote:
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And this topic was actually staying decent for a period of time.
I agree w/you. The person posting the distasteful comment most likely doesn’t have the first clue what is being discussed here. Every once in awhile there is actually an intelligent discussion on topix…..this just happens to be one of them. Too bad “the trash” comments aren’t the exception to the rule instead of the other way around; topix could be such a powerful communication platform for the community (as it probably was intended to be!).
Yeah

Hamilton, NY

#23 Mar 6, 2011
I just want to say something in defense of teachers. I know some teachers who have retired in Utica and do you know they are still involved with the school system on a voluntary basis? Many people who bash the teachers think that everyone went into the profession to work 3 hours per day and have summers off. I do not think that is the case with most of them. I would hate to have that job, as teachers no longer have any authority whatsoever, yet they have all the responsibilty. I would think that disciplining a child must require a twenty page sign off or something. I would not want to spend a week teaching many of these kids. Gone is the support that teachers once got from parents!!! There was a time that a child got in trouble in school and dreaded the punishment that would be waiting for him when he got home. That is no longer the case as now the child can't wait to get home and tell Mommy and Daddy would will then run to the school and ask the principle to fire the teacher as their child was not in the wrong. Many parents just aren't parents these days. Many parents are so busy being their child's best friends that they can no longer look at things objectively. And if the kids are not scoring as well as they should in different subject areas, then maybe that is a heads up to the parents out there to actually get involved in your kids' lives as parents, not best buddies.

You parents and taxpayers vote in the school board don't you? Same with the policians. I don't know who votes these people in, as it seems no one is ever happy with whomever gets voted in.

I think the post about attending the school board meetings was great. If you don't like something get involved. Sitting and doing nothing but complaining will not fix anything.
Yeah

Hamilton, NY

#24 Mar 6, 2011
Sorry--I meant principal and politicians!
Too Bad

Ashburn, VA

#25 Mar 6, 2011
Yeah wrote:
I just want to say something in defense of teachers. I know some teachers who have retired in Utica and do you know they are still involved with the school system on a voluntary basis? Many people who bash the teachers think that everyone went into the profession to work 3 hours per day and have summers off. I do not think that is the case with most of them. I would hate to have that job, as teachers no longer have any authority whatsoever, yet they have all the responsibilty. I would think that disciplining a child must require a twenty page sign off or something. I would not want to spend a week teaching many of these kids. Gone is the support that teachers once got from parents!!! There was a time that a child got in trouble in school and dreaded the punishment that would be waiting for him when he got home. That is no longer the case as now the child can't wait to get home and tell Mommy and Daddy would will then run to the school and ask the principle to fire the teacher as their child was not in the wrong. Many parents just aren't parents these days. Many parents are so busy being their child's best friends that they can no longer look at things objectively. And if the kids are not scoring as well as they should in different subject areas, then maybe that is a heads up to the parents out there to actually get involved in your kids' lives as parents, not best buddies.
You parents and taxpayers vote in the school board don't you? Same with the policians. I don't know who votes these people in, as it seems no one is ever happy with whomever gets voted in.
I think the post about attending the school board meetings was great. If you don't like something get involved. Sitting and doing nothing but complaining will not fix anything.
Boy, are you on target about many of today’s parents and their approach to parenting….”best friends” instead of true parents. Agreed that the teachers don’t have the support they should receive from the students’ homes but I still think that the amount of money we, the taxpayers, are burdened with to support more times than not outrageous salaries has to be reviewed and revised. In Rome the school budget is almost twice as much as the budget that supports the city government. Now that’s something to think about! See you at the next school board meeting!
dip stick

Saranac Lake, NY

#26 Mar 6, 2011
Too Bad wrote:
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Boy, are you on target about many of today’s parents and their approach to parenting….”best friends” instead of true parents. Agreed that the teachers don’t have the support they should receive from the students’ homes but I still think that the amount of money we, the taxpayers, are burdened with to support more times than not outrageous salaries has to be reviewed and revised. In Rome the school budget is almost twice as much as the budget that supports the city government. Now that’s something to think about! See you at the next school board meeting!
Hey, dip stick do the math. How many employees work for the city and how many for the school district. Then let's make the same argument about the investment of money and time to be an educator. So I guess a teacher should make the same as someone who works for the city on a garbage truck. But I believe that if someone is working on the back of a garbage truck for the city they should be paid a living wage and benefits. So were does it start and were does it end. Is education worth something or not. You can't have it both ways.
Too Bad

Ashburn, VA

#27 Mar 6, 2011
dip stick wrote:
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Hey, dip stick do the math. How many employees work for the city and how many for the school district. Then let's make the same argument about the investment of money and time to be an educator. So I guess a teacher should make the same as someone who works for the city on a garbage truck. But I believe that if someone is working on the back of a garbage truck for the city they should be paid a living wage and benefits. So were does it start and were does it end. Is education worth something or not. You can't have it both ways.
My point was that the city budget supporting the police, firefighters, dwp (inclusive of the water & electrical depts) and the crew @ city hall cost less than half what it costs to support the school system. I’m not suggesting for a moment that teachers should make equivalent to a snowplow driver (although I’d wage to bet they would have another opinion on that point). I'd also wager to bet again that some of those snowplow drivers do indeed have college degrees but can't land a job in their field; resonable thought, yes? Recently the school system hired 2 grounds/maintenance persons both I’d like to point out were from outside the area, one from Massachusetts). Starting salaries for both positions was/is $37k+; more than the starting salaries for police & firefighters. Are you doing the math? The school superintendent’s annual salary exceeds the mayor’s salary by ten of thousands of dollars. Again, are you doing the math? We need to work together to correct the math…not insult one-another on topix; agree?
watcher

Brooklyn, NY

#28 May 3, 2013
Teachers pay taxes too..teachers have families and support their children too..they help when the economy is bad and supplement income for their children ... they are grandparents helping to care for their grandchildren...
So to see yet once again the teacher bashing for the "ridiculous" salaries,,,Are you serious???
Really?????
Rome Teacher

Hartford, CT

#29 May 3, 2013
watcher wrote:
Teachers pay taxes too..teachers have families and support their children too..they help when the economy is bad and supplement income for their children ... they are grandparents helping to care for their grandchildren...
So to see yet once again the teacher bashing for the "ridiculous" salaries,,,Are you serious???
Really?????
Most greedy people in Rome are the teachers!
Pauline

Brooklyn, NY

#30 May 5, 2013
anger issues wrote:
it amounts to a little over 20 grand he is furious thats alot of money . he hates cuomo and he could care less at this point . his attitude is raise taxes dont cut anything . its like since he has to pay that much everyone shouldnt bitch about a few hundred dollars more that is his attitude . superintendents all feel singled out by a pay freeze of $125000 simons makes almost 150000 aww i feel bad how about you ?
you have no clue what the job entails!
no sympathy

Hamilton, NY

#31 May 5, 2013
I respect teachers but the salaries are outrageous. Especially for the administration. Therapists in clinics, social workers in emergency rooms, probation officers, parole, police, all work just as hard or harder and have stressful jobs are over worked and underappreciated but make less or similar salaries depending on where they work but work more hours for that money.
GO FOR IT

Utica, NY

#32 May 5, 2013
I SAY CUT HIM DOWN TO $45,000.00 PER YEAR! WE NEED MORE CUTS TO HIGH SALARIED BUMS!

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