jeff simons is pizzed about his pay cut

jeff simons is pizzed about his pay cut

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anger issues

West Leyden, NY

#1 Mar 4, 2011
it amounts to a little over 20 grand he is furious thats alot of money . he hates cuomo and he could care less at this point . his attitude is raise taxes dont cut anything . its like since he has to pay that much everyone shouldnt bitch about a few hundred dollars more that is his attitude . superintendents all feel singled out by a pay freeze of $125000 simons makes almost 150000 aww i feel bad how about you ?
proudofyourself

Long Eddy, NY

#2 Mar 4, 2011
$125000.00 isn't that even kind of high for this area. But let turn the clock back 15 years. What do you think about $105000.00 for a school principle. And not a high school, but a grade school. That is what the principle at Stocks was making when that retired, and all because they had a doctor degree. 15 years ago $105000.00 went a lot farther, and worth more then $150000.00 is today. Cuomo should be looking at a lot more then just superintendents.

It is pretty bad when I have to work almost 2 months a year just to pay taxes.
Too Bad

Ashburn, VA

#3 Mar 5, 2011
I think it’s a good thing that Governor Cuomo is proposing a pay freeze on all school superintendents salaries state wide. In my opinion Cuomo should take on the teachers union while he is at it; pay should not be frozen…..it should be reduced! Enough already with paying large salaries on the backs of the property taxpayers in a community of only 35k people where the average income hovers around $40k. Also, our school superintendent should be required to live within the boundaries of Rome; Simon lives in Oneida therefore doesn’t even spend the bulk of his income in OUR community or OUR county. Enough already!
do the math

Sherburne, NY

#4 Mar 5, 2011
I agree with taking on the teachers union. If you break it down..... average 70K a year for approximately 4 1/2 hours a day (6 hour school day, minus 1 free period, 1 lunch period)X 180 days year... pay is somewhere in the neighborhood of 90 plus $ an hour. And that's base salary! If they sub on their free period, that's an extra $45, if they coach, that's extra.... Most classes, in elementary anyways have a free period for the kids to go to band, chorus etc..(no instruction)the teacher still gets their full pay...

Definately not like any other job out there, that's for sure. T
saddam

Hamilton, NY

#5 Mar 5, 2011
where's Stocks??
dumby

Blossvale, NY

#6 Mar 5, 2011
do the math wrote:
I agree with taking on the teachers union. If you break it down..... average 70K a year for approximately 4 1/2 hours a day (6 hour school day, minus 1 free period, 1 lunch period)X 180 days year... pay is somewhere in the neighborhood of 90 plus $ an hour. And that's base salary! If they sub on their free period, that's an extra $45, if they coach, that's extra.... Most classes, in elementary anyways have a free period for the kids to go to band, chorus etc..(no instruction)the teacher still gets their full pay...
Definately not like any other job out there, that's for sure. T
You are a complete f***ing retard. Where did you get those kind of ridiculous numbers from? And for the other retard who said something about a principle getting paid more because he had a P.H.D., well no f***ing shit. When you invest that much money and time improving your education how in the f*** are you supposed to be rewarded?
publius

Jamesville, NY

#7 Mar 5, 2011
I also agree with taking on the teacher's unions. OK, they need a degree and eventually a masters. But c'mon, in terms of hours during a year they do work less than the private sector. And in general their benefits are better than the private sector.

If our school system was totally awesome, churning out scholars left and right, I would say OK, maybe they are worth it. But let's be honest, some teachers seem to just be going through the motions, collecting a paycheck. My kid's guidance counselor makes $93,000 a year... unbelieveable.

If they don't want to be a teacher go find a job in the private sector. Good luck.
do the math

Sherburne, NY

#8 Mar 5, 2011
I've worked in this district for 20 plus years. It's absolutely true.
And yeah, it's great to have a PHD... but really? Rewarded? The job should pay what the job pays. Most other jobs do. If there is an out of work accountant at city yard, do we pay him according to his education? If a kindergarden teacher decides to pursue a PHD, should he/she be paid over $100K for teaching 5 year olds?
publius

Jamesville, NY

#9 Mar 5, 2011
here are the details about teacher pensions if someone wants to break it down. http://www.nystrs.org/main/benefits/service.h...

I am in the private sector and only have a 401K with a 3% employer match. Also, not in a union.
why not

Saranac Lake, NY

#10 Mar 5, 2011
publius wrote:
here are the details about teacher pensions if someone wants to break it down. http://www.nystrs.org/main/benefits/service.h...
I am in the private sector and only have a 401K with a 3% employer match. Also, not in a union.
then why are you not a teacher?
Right

Brooklyn, NY

#11 Mar 5, 2011
If teaching is so great, why do half the teachers leave the profession within 5 years.

For those who complain about teachers, I wonder how long you would last in education.
publius

Jamesville, NY

#12 Mar 5, 2011
why not wrote:
<quoted text>
then why are you not a teacher?
I have a good paying job in the private sector. Somebody has to pay taxes.
why not

Saranac Lake, NY

#13 Mar 5, 2011
publius wrote:
<quoted text>
I have a good paying job in the private sector. Somebody has to pay taxes.
and teachers don't! i thought everyone pays federal, state, fica, etc. and you also pay sales tax on everything they buy plus you pay county, city and school taxes for home ownership

so what your point, if you have such a good paying job in the private sector why b!tch about others

it's funny we want teachers who believe the job is a 24/7 lifestyle but we keep reminding them it just a job by bashing the profession al the time

your point is worthless!
Joe

Ithaca, NY

#14 Mar 5, 2011
I am fairly certain no one has "bashed the profession". Whats been "bashed", is the high salary with little results. Our schools churn out more and more people who can barely tie shoes. I DO agree that MOST of the mgo through the motion. They made a "smart" career choice, for THEMSELVES ONLY! I agree scale it back in terms of salary, or make the kids improvements part of their wage scale. You try to be a great teacher, you make more. You show up and its obvious you are a pay check teacher, hit the road our kids deserve better than that!!
RightToWorkNYS

Brooklyn, NY

#15 Mar 5, 2011
I don't see how the state and organizations can force a person to belong to something that was against everything that person believes in. I agree that unions need to be busted because they are really organized crime that payoff politicians. I do feel that teachers and administrators should be paying more towards their healthcare and pensions. The idea of capping administrator pay is a great idea. We have so many teachers with administrator certifications, but they are never used by the school. Allow these teachers to pitch in and work as Dean of Students. A little bump in pay is cheaper than paying full price for an assistant principal. Why won't that happen? Because the unions for administrators and teachers won't allow it.

As far as teaching, some of you have no clue as to what you are talking about. I work almost 12 hour days at my school, plus I take the work home and do it at night and on the weekend. That would put me close to minimum wage then. How many of you buy supplies and equipment for your workplace without being able to deduct every cent of it? Did you need a masters degree, take several state certification exams costing $88 to $390, paying the state $50 to $100 per certification (they have an initial and professional, so you have to pay for both), and take courses to meet the requirements every five years? I don't believe you did. Judging from the spelling, I don't know how you even made it passed the third grade. We don't just graduate and then we are set for life. The education field is always changing and we need to keep up with it, even if we know that the new change won't work. The paperwork is sickening, depending on what area you teach in. What would help the teachers out? How about reading to your children from when they are infants and continuing until they are high school. We are not supposed to raise your child. We already feed them more than parents do now. The students need individuals in their lives that will be positive role models. If a teacher is teaching them to go by the rules and use discipline, the parents should be doing the same. I use the term parents loosely. It is more like sperm and egg donors who will just buy their kids things to leave them alone. Of course, we have those that just have them for more money from the state.

When typing on here, don't do it from a cell phone. I would suggest using spell check, but that would require you to come close to spelling it. I realize many of you have problems spelling GED because you probably didn't even get that. You've got to love the individuals that come on here and bash everyone and everything given to them when they don't pay a single cent. Yes, those people that are a burden to society and probably third, forth, or fifth generation welfare.

You don't pay a single penny, but you complain about all the free services you receive. This is why New York State is failing. We can't pay the welfare and Medicaid bills. All the social services you receive and you still bite the hand that feeds you. New York State should privatize education. It would save the taxpayers from having to pick up the check while you continue to ruin any chance of your children to becoming productive citizens.
sentinel

West Leyden, NY

#16 Mar 5, 2011
anyone ever notice that picture in our rome paper of jeff simons ? the expression on his face ? its like hes getting a load blown in his anal cavity . he looks so gay . i bet he swallowed a few loads in his day
AndTheyComeOut

Morrisville, NY

#17 Mar 5, 2011
sentinel wrote:
anyone ever notice that picture in our rome paper of jeff simons ? the expression on his face ? its like hes getting a load blown in his anal cavity . he looks so gay . i bet he swallowed a few loads in his day
And this topic was actually staying decent for a period of time.
just saying

Ilion, NY

#18 Mar 5, 2011
truth is. if he doesn't like the pay cut. QUIT. see if he can find another job around her that pays as much for doing nothing!
sentinel

West Leyden, NY

#19 Mar 5, 2011
Gov. Andrew Cuomo has ramped up his attack on school superintendents, proposing a sliding salary cap that could force most local school chiefs to take a 30 percent to 50 percent cut in pay.

Cuomo's proposal would cap superintendent salaries at $125,000 to $175,000 a year, depending on the size of the school district. He said the move would save $15 million statewide.

Currently, only one superintendent in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties makes less than $175,000 in salary.

Garrison schools chief Gloria Colucci, who oversees the region's tiniest district with about 280 students, earns $164,000.

The average superintendent's salary in the Lower Hudson Valley is $241,255 — 37.9 percent higher than Cuomo's proposed maximum cap. They also receive an average of $44,774 in benefits, which would be unaffected.

Eastchester Superintendent Marilyn Terranova, president-elect of the New York State Council of School Superintendents, said the savings proposed by Cuomo would be negligible.

"I don't think that the governor is going to be well-liked and be seen as a white knight in shining armor," said Terranova, whose salary is $238,855. She has not received a raise in three years.

The five highest salaries in the region go to Edgemont's Nancy Taddiken ($299,963), Pearl River's Frank Auriemma ($289,228) Scarsdale's Michael McGill ($288,561), Harrison's Louis Wool ($287,074), and Rye Neck's Peter Mustich ($286,575).

Jill Spieler, president of the Scarsdale Board of Education, said she didn't understand why Cuomo wanted to take away local control.

"I think the governor is trying to take away a lot of the autonomy and decision-making power from the local level," Spieler said. "He is avoiding the issues, the ones that need to be addressed."

Spieler noted that many assistant superintendents and even principals in the region have salaries that exceed the proposed cap.

Cuomo's bill, introduced Monday, would have to be approved by the Legislature. It would put the cap into effect once current contracts expire.
crazy

West Leyden, NY

#20 Mar 5, 2011
New Hartford Teacher's Contract Has Top Step of $104,000 what is romes ?

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