Rome legion's M3 Stuart Tank

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#106
Jun 16, 2014
 
Joe, you're sowing pearls among swine. But don't give up.
B52 Piliot

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#107
Jun 16, 2014
 
Joe S 1212 wrote:
Those B52's I'm talking about were on the pads next to the hangers on Hanger Road. Some of us remember when we could be on perimeter road and watch those silver bombs be brought back to the bomb area.
Yes, all the planes on the nose docks and ready pad could fly and had bombs on them, not just cruise missles until the last years of the base.
Sorry frankcor, i thought I could impart some accurate information to the masses.
well Joe...you have No clue!!!!!!the B52s parked next to the PHASE DOCKS NEAR hanger road were in DA PHASEDOCKS...that means they were OUT OF SERVICE to have many things done..like change TIRES ENGINES>>>NOT because they could NOT fly! That's why IDIOTS like YOU drove around PERIMITOR ROAD to look at "DA PLANES" when real people worked on them or flew them!!!!! GO get a WARM MILK!
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#108
Jun 16, 2014
 
OHHHH Frankie...Go have a WARM MILK with JOE!
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#109
Jun 16, 2014
 
TACOM owns the tank. Built in the 1940s has been out of service for MANY years. The gun has been DISABLED, rendered incapable of firing. The engine and transmission MIGHT have run when parked, but as with anything that sits without maintenance in the weather for YEARS, they have long since become inoperable. There is a current effort to restore the appearance of the vehicle, But NO attempt will be made (that I am aware of, and I am a member of the organization restoring the vehicle) to restore any engine function. I am not certain that the engine remains. It took a crane to remove it from it's display pad, it will take one to put it back. There are current M1 tanks on display across the current in the same condition, demilitarized and cannibalized no longer capable of any meaningful military substantial function. Someone said $850 to make it run, that would not paint the vehicle, much less make it run. $8500 might find an engine of indeterminate condition, $85,000 might make it move under it's own power. I don't think at this point the Army or DoD or the Russians would care if this vehicle ran. There are hundreds like it that are operational, some fully operational having only recently come out of service from third world countries. The gun is capable of severe damage to light armored vehicles and buildings, but the armor is lighter than a modern MRAP and easily defeated. SALT II would not have considered this vehicle as any part of the military inventory. It has not been a viable part of the US Army inventory since 1950. There are far more modern vehicles used as displays, they are all just displays.

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#110
Jun 16, 2014
 
As a scout/recon tank with such light armor, it is likely its survivability depended on its ability to run away from main battle tanks. That was the theory of anti-tank Sheridans that could fire missiles at T-72s and such and then run like heck.
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Jun 17, 2014
 
B52 Piliot wrote:
<quoted text>well Joe...you have No clue!!!!!!the B52s parked next to the PHASE DOCKS NEAR hanger road were in DA PHASEDOCKS...that means they were OUT OF SERVICE to have many things done..like change TIRES ENGINES>>>NOT because they could NOT fly! That's why IDIOTS like YOU drove around PERIMITOR ROAD to look at "DA PLANES" when real people worked on them or flew them!!!!! GO get a WARM MILK!
I think it is important to have an accurate understanding of history (especially military history). Thank you for providing first hand knowledge to us.
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#112
Jun 17, 2014
 
Alan wrote:
TACOM owns the tank. Built in the 1940s has been out of service for MANY years. The gun has been DISABLED, rendered incapable of firing. The engine and transmission MIGHT have run when parked, but as with anything that sits without maintenance in the weather for YEARS, they have long since become inoperable. There is a current effort to restore the appearance of the vehicle, But NO attempt will be made (that I am aware of, and I am a member of the organization restoring the vehicle) to restore any engine function. I am not certain that the engine remains. It took a crane to remove it from it's display pad, it will take one to put it back. There are current M1 tanks on display across the current in the same condition, demilitarized and cannibalized no longer capable of any meaningful military substantial function. Someone said $850 to make it run, that would not paint the vehicle, much less make it run.$8500 might find an engine of indeterminate condition,$85,000 might make it move under it's own power. I don't think at this point the Army or DoD or the Russians would care if this vehicle ran. There are hundreds like it that are operational, some fully operational having only recently come out of service from third world countries. The gun is capable of severe damage to light armored vehicles and buildings, but the armor is lighter than a modern MRAP and easily defeated. SALT II would not have considered this vehicle as any part of the military inventory. It has not been a viable part of the US Army inventory since 1950. There are far more modern vehicles used as displays, they are all just displays.
This tank is where?
Habanero Harv

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#113
Jun 20, 2014
 
check the skank in the tank..rank!
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#114
Jun 20, 2014
 
B52 piliot wrote:
well Joes s 1212...YOU are the doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground! They did NOT move unusable planes around during the cold war you IDIOT! The spy sats did follow our planes, but we also knew when they were over us so no planes moved ! why would we wasted time and manpower moving planes that couldn't fly according to you because of metal fatigue,. well they MUST have been able to fly because we have none left over from the 1990's! You are a bigger IDIOT than Francor! we also had to tell the Russians when we destroyed a B52 you IDIOT! part of the SALT treaty!!!!!!
I doubt very seriously you have any knowledge of what is going on. 225 was scheduled for demo in compliance with the SALT treaty agreement. As many as 50 operational AC's were flown to the Bone Yard to be dismantled. 225 on the other hand was suppose to go for destruction, but they choose to strip it, and allow it to be a static display AC. That information was given to the people who monitor the treaties to ensure it was not an operational AC and that the AF complied with the agreement. Instead of sending it to the Bone Yard to be cut up they allowed it to remain here. Try to understand when AC or anything become too cost prohibited to keep up the government scraps or destroys it. To put this into prospective did you ever own a car that was too costly to repair? Well what happened to it? You scrapped it. Well the government does the same thing. Also for your information on moving operational AC around. We did it all the time. We also painted silhouettes of AC on flight lines, Tanks made of wood, and even ships to fake the Russians out. You would be surprised what we did.

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#115
Jun 21, 2014
 
Did the Stuart scout tanks have heaters? I imagine spending the night in one during winter in Europe would be akin to sleeping in an ice box.
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Sunday Jun 22
 

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Did the Stuart scout tanks have heaters? I imagine spending the night in one during winter in Europe would be akin to sleeping in an ice box.
No Frank they only had heat when the motor was running. They did not keep it running 24-7 either especially at night when sound carries a long distance. It gave away their position.
Vance the Vet

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#117
Saturday Jul 12
 
I think I've seen this tank in front of the VFW or perhaps the legion. Great piece of history.

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#118
Saturday Jul 12
 
It's the Legion. Is there any update on progress in the restoration?
Vance the Vet

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#119
Sunday Jul 13
 
You're correct , it is the legion. Not aware of any progress assuming they are planning a restoration.
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#120
Wednesday Jul 16
 
send it back to war!
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#121
Thursday Jul 17
 
What did the tankers do if they had to urinate? Did the Stuart come with sanitary facilities?

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#122
Thursday Jul 17
 
To a tanker, the world is their sanitary facility. Sitting on a tank, you can urinate pretty much any where you choose. :)
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#123
Friday Jul 18
 
Suppose they also took a SH!T from atop the tank....how many tanks did YOU drive Frankcor...you sure know a lot about them....

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#124
Friday Jul 18
 
I served with an armored cavalry squadron of the 1st Armored Division attached to NATO forces. I was a track commander but got to drive tanks, anti-tank tracks and APCs but only if the brass weren't watching. It wasn't as much fun if we weren't getting mud on the roof :) I never sat in anything as lightly armored as the M-3.
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#125
Saturday Jul 19
 
frankcor wrote:
I served with an armored cavalry squadron of the 1st Armored Division attached to NATO forces. I was a track commander but got to drive tanks, anti-tank tracks and APCs but only if the brass weren't watching. It wasn't as much fun if we weren't getting mud on the roof :) I never sat in anything as lightly armored as the M-3.
soyou were a wanna be tankdriver....wow wee big DEAL!

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