B-52 Crash in the late 60's, early 70's
Jennifer

Hamilton, NY

#64 Oct 12, 2013
There was in fact a B-52 crash that happened in Floyd in the late 60's, I know this because I am married to the grandson of the owner of the land at the time of the crash,my husbands father now own's the land and I have been to the crash site and my husbands grandfather has told stories about that day and about seeing the men hanging from the tree's on fire
Resident wrote:
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Dave there was only one B-52 incident at Griffiss. That was in early 1973 or late 1972 when one lost power and crash landed at the end of the runway. Minor injuries but plane was destroyed and sent to RADC test facility at Stockbridge where it was rebuilt and used for antenna testing. I believe the plane is still there. Now there was the loss of a T-33 in the Forrestport. I but don't remember the exact date but that you can find that full story on line. Both pilots were killed. There was a couple of 106's that went down, and the link will give you all accicdents at Griffiss from its opening to its closing in 95. Hope this answers your questions.
http://www.accident-report.com/world/namerica...
Jennifer

Hamilton, NY

#65 Oct 12, 2013
0030 (319th BW, 46th BS) crashed Nov 2, 1967 at Griffiss AFB. Control lost during instrument approach when power loss on no. 5 and 6 engines. 6 killed, 2 ejected.This plane was seen parked at DMAFB Mar 2009, so the plane must have been repaired. The aircraft was destroyed in the crash,so this sighting seems unlikely.
This is info taken from http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1961.h...
Resident wrote:
Sorry Dave but you are correct.
Mud slinger we called that one Joe. Dave my error I called up the wrong files.
The crash you wanted information on is listed below
AC number 0030 (319th BW, 46th BS) crashed Nov 2, 1967 5 miles from the base in the area of Floyd while making an ILS approach to Griffiss AFB. Pilots reported a mayday and that they were experiencing flight control problems, and engine failure. No further communications was received. Accident investigation, and interviews of surviving crewmembers revealed the AC experienced a major electrical problem, fire on board the AC. Shortly after the pilot reported electrical, and engine failures to the control tower all communications was lost. Surviving crewmember told investigators the pilots were unable to give the bailout command over the intercom. The two survivors related they realized the aircraft was in an un-recoverable condition, and bailed out. Six crewmembers were killed. This accident was not recorded on Griffiss records since the aircraft was not assigned to Griffiss. Hope this helps.
Ray Cloninger

United States

#66 Oct 13, 2013
Saw it crash. I had walked to my car getting off of a 7 day alert cycle as it made a pass over the runway on a failed approach. I had just sat down in my car when it banked left, stalled, and went straight down from about 800 feet high. Plane was fully loaded with fuel making an emergency landing, approved by their based commander, against AF regs considering the fuel load and two engines out. The copilot was in the command seat, also a mistake for a landing in such an emergency. Two engines had failed just after takeoff from Plattsburgh AFB in NY. Huge fireball, I saw no chutes as the fireball rose above the tree line, but the copilot ejected and survived. One other crew member managed to eject, but was in the fire ball.
Ray Cloninger
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Jennifer

Hamilton, NY

#67 Oct 13, 2013
Dave, just want to pass along that I am married to the land owner's son and the land is in fact posted to everyone and if anyone is caught on the land they will be asked to promptly leave the premises and to not return.
Dave wrote:
Resident, I am friends with the land owners and can travel freely, if you would like to meet up at some point, let me know. Its been a few years since Ive been up there myself, even though it is so close.
Believe it or not, i found a piece of harness or parachute cord...with..well, "something" still attached, by melting to it. Graphic.
WES

Watertown, NY

#69 Mar 24, 2014
There was a jet that crashed in Vernon Center behind Quite Valley Trailer Park.

In the 70's I think.
Lol

Syracuse, NY

#70 Mar 25, 2014
Jennifer wrote:
Dave, just want to pass along that I am married to the land owner's son and the land is in fact posted to everyone and if anyone is caught on the land they will be asked to promptly leave the premises and to not return.
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There was a group that came to the area a few years ago who were part of the original investigating team, as well as a group called Wreck Chasers. They were interested in looking over the area, and to place a memorial to the ones lost. They however do not go anyplace without permission.
Guessing

Syracuse, NY

#71 Mar 25, 2014
Jennifer wrote:
0030 (319th BW, 46th BS) crashed Nov 2, 1967 at Griffiss AFB. Control lost during instrument approach when power loss on no. 5 and 6 engines. 6 killed, 2 ejected.This plane was seen parked at DMAFB Mar 2009, so the plane must have been repaired. The aircraft was destroyed in the crash,so this sighting seems unlikely.
This is info taken from http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1961.h...
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Sorry to tell you thins but the plane that crashed in Floyd was not repaired. There was nothing left to repair, and it was not on an instrument approach. It was attempting to do a go around emergency landing after they started loosing engines. They lost 5 and 6 and then lost 7 and 8. The plane augured in. Now if are also referring to the plane that went off the runway in 72 again it never flew again. It was trucked to Stockbridge Test site where it remained for almost 20 years until it was cut up for scrap metal.
rob richardson

Rome, NY

#74 Apr 29, 2014
Russell239

Lowell, MA

#77 Aug 28, 2014
SPS wrote:
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That was not an auger in on the B-52 one in 72. There was a F-106 that went down around the same time from the 49th FIS. The 52 that went down in spring of 72 went off the runway and landed in the ditch along the alert area. It hydro planed off the end of the runway while trying to stop. I think the other fellows were talking on the one that crashed in November of 67 in Floyd were 6 of the eight crew were killed. Been a while but I been reading the post, and remember that crash. I was in security police and had to do security for the site.
Wow
Some one has a good memory. I remember that clear as day. They woke us up in the barracks at 04:00 and drove us to Oneida Camden area with instruction to get every piece of FOD. I was only an Airman with the 416th not the 49thFIS but every one had to help get the remains of the fighter plane. I will always remember General Price and I was there at the Griff when the Buff went off the runway too. About the same time as I tried to take a picture of the Black plane! They took my camera and film. I wonder who the cop was. I think it was Sgt Burrucki or something? I never saw what an X-15 looked like in person up front. Back then I was a 42153 Aero Space Ground Equip Mechanic and soon after went to Anderson AFB to finish out Vietnam war. Then I retrained into a radio repairman 30454. 416th took care of the B-52's and the fighter squadron was in the same area along with MAC down at the bottom of the hill. I used to live in Durham area and drove home 90 miles and thought it was fun. I guess since I went to 416th in 1972 after tech school the plane crash was then for I joined USAF Aug 1971 then went to tech school at Chanute Rantoul Ill and went to the 416th after graduation. Nixon said the war was over in Guam and that was 1973? I still have dreams or nightmares of the plane crash. KB1UKU
gosmith

Annandale, VA

#79 Jan 5, 2015
As an engineer from Tinker AFB, I participated in the investigation because it was reported that two engines were shut down because each had a Constant Speed Drive overheat light. This was proper procedure per the flight handbook, but the crew evidently let the airspeed drop too low and the plane rolled and crashed into a wooded area, impacting the ground with a wing leading edge, which made a large trench. I was not aware of any survivors other than the copilot. His chute caught in a tree above the wreckage. He was able to participate in debriefing but his hands were bandaged because of burns. As the plane neared impact, one of the crew ejected parallel to the ground and shot into some brush and did not survive. I believe the final report blamed pilot error for not maintaining airspeed. Afterwards, I added some instructions to the flight handbook.

Since: Jan 15

Auburn, CA

#80 Jan 27, 2015
I have had a two-fold interest in finding information about the 02NOV67 B-52 crash. My childhood friend's father was 1st LT Sydney "Sid" Glover, Radar Navigator. Also, as a former Naval Aviator and current commercial airline pilot, its very interesting to study our aviation history. As a kid, we were well aware of the accident but my only recollection of Sid's telling was that he and a pilot survived after "bailing out". My dad was in the 82nd Airborne, so I somehow visualized as a kid that the "bailout" was something similar to a paratrooper-style jump! I had no idea that Sid's ejection was a low altitude event. I also know that he HATED to fly commercially and I now have a better appreciation as to why. Mr. Glover passed away last year and I certainly wish I could have heard more of his retelling as an adult. I have recently been in touch with his two daughters (one of whom was born after the accident) and will let them know about the info I have found. Thanks for all the info posted on the site.

Since: Jan 15

Auburn, CA

#81 Jan 27, 2015
Namesake wrote:
The pilot of the 2 Nov 1967 crash was my uncle and I was named after him. My facts are a little hazy but it sounds like the story on here is correct. They had indications of fire or overheat that caused them to shut down at least one engine, maybe two. They were extremely heavyweight and the weather was bad. They lost control of the airplane while executing a missed approach. The maneuvers sound consistent with a stall but not sure why the a/c stalled. I think I heard the throttle gates were set incorrectly for the go around. I would love to get more information on this subject. My Father (the pilots younger brother) was also an AF pilot, but has since passed away. My brother and I are also USAF retired pilots now. Most of the family memory of the event is as clear as my pilot mind would like it to be. Major Robert Alma Richards now lays to rest just a few feet from my parents in Magna Ut.
Thanks for the info. I grew up across the street from Sydney Glover, the radar navigator who survived the crash. I flew in the Navy for eight years and currently fly commercially. Do you have any other links about the accident? Thanks
vic

AOL

#82 Feb 4, 2015
I was a crew chief on a buff then and we had just launched a sortie when we were told
to prepare to recover an H model in distress. We stood on the ramp and watched it
overfly the base then the wings dipped left then rolled over to the right and straight down.
We started to respond but were ordered to hold in place. Terrible event.
svcindian

Aurora, OH

#83 Feb 4, 2015
Dave wrote:
Hey everyone, Im looking for information on a B-52 crash that happened in Floyd, I cant find anything online what so ever. I have few sparse details, i live about 1/4 mile from the crash site, ive been there myself and dug up pieces of the plane, I just cant find anything official.If anyone can remember or has any info, let me know please!:-)
Dave
I was just looking for the same thing. My husband was stationed in Korea at the time. I believe it was in late 1967. The kids and I lived in Birches Trailer Park on Stearns Rd. The plane I think you are talking about flew right over the trailer park. I watched it go down. I am getting chills now as I remember it. I had nightmares for a long time after. I remember several men coming to my house with tape recorders to interview me. I had two babies in the house with me. One mine, the other a neighbors. When the plane flew over the end of our mobile home I could clearly read the USAF on the wing. Had someone been standing on the roof of our mobile home I think they could have reached up and touched that plane. Not that they would want to. There was an explosion or something and it looked like black stuff flying out of the plane. If I remember correctly there were 7 men on the plane and only 2 survived. I was told what I saw coming out of the plane were ejection seats. I could see a parachute coming down and it looked like it was going right into the flames. You could feel the heat from the flames of the explosion when the plane hit the ground. I have all I can do to keep from crying right now as I remember that horrible day. I took the two babies and ran to a neighbors as her husband (a Sgt.) came running out of his house and towards the crash. I myself never went to the crash sight but my husband did when he returned from Korea. He said it was a mess. The ground was burned under the snow and a lot of pieces of the plane (some embedded in the trees) were strewn around for miles.

If you find any info on this crash I would like to see it.
svcindian

Aurora, OH

#84 Feb 4, 2015
Resident wrote:
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Dave there was only one B-52 incident at Griffiss. That was in early 1973 or late 1972 when one lost power and crash landed at the end of the runway. Minor injuries but plane was destroyed and sent to RADC test facility at Stockbridge where it was rebuilt and used for antenna testing. I believe the plane is still there. Now there was the loss of a T-33 in the Forrestport. I but don't remember the exact date but that you can find that full story on line. Both pilots were killed. There was a couple of 106's that went down, and the link will give you all accicdents at Griffiss from its opening to its closing in 95. Hope this answers your questions.
http://www.accident-report.com/world/namerica...
Wrong....there was definitely a B-52 crash in the late 60's. I think it was 1967. I was there and I saw it.
Templedog08

Colorado Springs, CO

#85 Feb 4, 2015
Dave wrote:
Hey everyone, Im looking for information on a B-52 crash that happened in Floyd, I cant find anything online what so ever. I have few sparse details, i live about 1/4 mile from the crash site, ive been there myself and dug up pieces of the plane, I just cant find anything official.If anyone can remember or has any info, let me know please!:-)
Dave


http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php... I was 6 years old when that thing flew over our trailer in Birches Trailer Park in Floyd NY. I still remember that day.. The B-52 was from Grand Forks AFB. hope this helps a bit
Air Force

Thief River Falls, MN

#86 Mar 8, 2015
02-NOV-1967

Time: 09:45 LT

Type: Silhouette image of generic B52 model; specific model in this crash may look slightly different

Boeing B-52H Stratofortress

Owner/operator: 319th BW, 46th BS, USAF

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php...
Vito

Rome, NY

#87 Mar 11, 2015
Rich Silva wrote:
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Thanks for the info. I grew up across the street from Sydney Glover, the radar navigator who survived the crash. I flew in the Navy for eight years and currently fly commercially. Do you have any other links about the accident? Thanks
How far from the east end of the runway did it go down?
Basilhoff

Dublin, OH

#88 May 11, 2015
Dave wrote:
Thanks for the reply's so far guys, Sadly nothing is matching up though. I have included an image for reference. Local folks that were around at the time told me; It was a B-52 and it's two pilots stayed in the plane as long as possible to avoid crashing into the trailer park about 200yrds away, sadly the pilots got caught up in the trees and burned alive above the crash.
Apparently this was common knowledge with everyone in the area, and all the stories i have found are the same, its not like i have heard multiple differences between folks on this. When i was in my early teens, an older neighbor brought me to the site, and i collected almost a garbage bag full of burned and misshapen pieces of light weight metal, parts that were not burned, were olive drab or grey in color, i cant remember which. I also found various wires and some glass.
I find it very odd that i cant find anything on this subject, when so many people remember it and the scars remain in the earth itself. Could it have been covered up? I wonder, but i don't see why.
Pic:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/cras...
I remember this crash as well. The buff went down near a trailer park that had a large Tennessee Tuxedo cartoon character at the entrance, it may have been called the Tuxedo or Tenn Tuxedo trailer park. My father was part of the accident investigation team and he took my brother and I to the crash site a couple of times. I remember the stories of the pilots ejecting into the trees and being burned to death. Very traumatic experience for a 12 year old boy to witness the aftermath.
Survivor

Monterey, CA

#89 Jun 28, 2015
For anyone who continues to follow this. Aircraft had a fire light on #6 shortly after takeoff from Westover AFB. The engine was shut down and the light extinguished. Shortly thereafter,#5 generator was lost and shortly thereafter it went into an overheat condition necessitating shutting down of #5 engine. A B-52H with 2 inboard engines shut-down is very flyable, however, the generator continued in an overheat condition. This latter can be a very serious emergency on a B-54H requiring immediate mission abort as the the generator could disentegrate causing major wing damage and aircraft loss with the ignition of the wing fuel.(The aircraft still had a full fuel load - there was no way to dump fuel). Aircraft declared an emergency. By this time, Griffiss was the closest base. Center gave clearance to descend for landing, but it was easy to see that the aircraft could not descend fast enough for the first approach. The aircraft had plenty of power and the crew felt it best to keep things under control and do a low approach and then land. On the go around engines 7 & 8 compressor stalled. The cause of the compressor stalls was never determined though there were varying theories. It was the navigator's seat and chute that conflicted, resulting in serious injuries, but he recovered and eventually received a medical retirement. The two ejection seats were recovered, however, some one successfully pilfered one of the .22 calibre pistols in the survival pack of one seat, before it was recovered. Flight time was less than 30 minutes.

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