B-52 Crash in the late 60's, early 70's

B-52 Crash in the late 60's, early 70's

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Dave

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Aug 2, 2012
Hey everyone, Im looking for information on a B-52 crash that happened in Floyd, I cant find anything online what so ever. I have few sparse details, i live about 1/4 mile from the crash site, ive been there myself and dug up pieces of the plane, I just cant find anything official.If anyone can remember or has any info, let me know please!:-)

Dave
How true

Sherburne, NY

#2 Aug 2, 2012
I remember I think it was 1968 or 69
Resident

Saranac Lake, NY

#3 Aug 2, 2012
Dave wrote:
Hey everyone, Im looking for information on a B-52 crash that happened in Floyd, I cant find anything online what so ever. I have few sparse details, i live about 1/4 mile from the crash site, ive been there myself and dug up pieces of the plane, I just cant find anything official.If anyone can remember or has any info, let me know please!:-)
Dave
Dave there was only one B-52 incident at Griffiss. That was in early 1973 or late 1972 when one lost power and crash landed at the end of the runway. Minor injuries but plane was destroyed and sent to RADC test facility at Stockbridge where it was rebuilt and used for antenna testing. I believe the plane is still there. Now there was the loss of a T-33 in the Forrestport. I but don't remember the exact date but that you can find that full story on line. Both pilots were killed. There was a couple of 106's that went down, and the link will give you all accicdents at Griffiss from its opening to its closing in 95. Hope this answers your questions.
http://www.accident-report.com/world/namerica...
Resident

Saranac Lake, NY

#4 Aug 2, 2012
Dave wrote:
Hey everyone, Im looking for information on a B-52 crash that happened in Floyd, I cant find anything online what so ever. I have few sparse details, i live about 1/4 mile from the crash site, ive been there myself and dug up pieces of the plane, I just cant find anything official.If anyone can remember or has any info, let me know please!:-)
Dave
Sorry Dave the link only copied to 1955. I will look through my files and see if I have another link to include the other years.
Resident

Saranac Lake, NY

#5 Aug 2, 2012

Since: Mar 12

United States

#6 Aug 2, 2012
Check the library files. There was one in the early 1070's and the fuselage ended up with "SAC does it best" written on its side while it sat on the tarmac. It was quickly painted over. I don't remember anyone getting killed in that crash which went off the runway and got stuck in the mud.
Roman

Dover, DE

#7 Aug 2, 2012
Joe S 1212 wrote:
Check the library files. There was one in the early 1070's and the fuselage ended up with "SAC does it best" written on its side while it sat on the tarmac. It was quickly painted over. I don't remember anyone getting killed in that crash which went off the runway and got stuck in the mud.
read what was written....he said it was a t33 crash that the piliots were killed!
Dave

Brooklyn, NY

#8 Aug 2, 2012
Thanks for the reply's so far guys, Sadly nothing is matching up though. I have included an image for reference. Local folks that were around at the time told me; It was a B-52 and it's two pilots stayed in the plane as long as possible to avoid crashing into the trailer park about 200yrds away, sadly the pilots got caught up in the trees and burned alive above the crash.

Apparently this was common knowledge with everyone in the area, and all the stories i have found are the same, its not like i have heard multiple differences between folks on this. When i was in my early teens, an older neighbor brought me to the site, and i collected almost a garbage bag full of burned and misshapen pieces of light weight metal, parts that were not burned, were olive drab or grey in color, i cant remember which. I also found various wires and some glass.

I find it very odd that i cant find anything on this subject, when so many people remember it and the scars remain in the earth itself. Could it have been covered up? I wonder, but i don't see why.

Pic:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/cras...
Resident

Saranac Lake, NY

#9 Aug 2, 2012
Sorry Dave but you are correct.
Mud slinger we called that one Joe. Dave my error I called up the wrong files.

The crash you wanted information on is listed below

AC number 0030 (319th BW, 46th BS) crashed Nov 2, 1967 5 miles from the base in the area of Floyd while making an ILS approach to Griffiss AFB. Pilots reported a mayday and that they were experiencing flight control problems, and engine failure. No further communications was received. Accident investigation, and interviews of surviving crewmembers revealed the AC experienced a major electrical problem, fire on board the AC. Shortly after the pilot reported electrical, and engine failures to the control tower all communications was lost. Surviving crewmember told investigators the pilots were unable to give the bailout command over the intercom. The two survivors related they realized the aircraft was in an un-recoverable condition, and bailed out. Six crewmembers were killed. This accident was not recorded on Griffiss records since the aircraft was not assigned to Griffiss. Hope this helps.
Dave

Brooklyn, NY

#10 Aug 2, 2012
Thanks Resident! Superb work, i wonder if there is a newspaper write up on this.
Dave

Brooklyn, NY

#11 Aug 2, 2012
More info i found:

11-2-1967, B-52H, s/n 61-0030, Griffiss AFB, NY...aircraft on training mission experienced number 6 engine fire, engine was shut down, also generator number 5 overheat warning light came on. Command post advised
to cancel the mission and return to base. Aircraft was on final GCA approach but was 200 feet above the glide path, a go -around was attempted. After passing the end of runway 15, the aircraft climbed to 2000 feet, wings level, then rolled right
which continued past 90 degrees of bank. Bail our order was given, the pilot , navigator and gunner ejected, the pilot and
navigator survived. The gunner's seat became entangled with his parachute, he sustained fatal injuries. The IP and navigator, two maintenance men were fatally injured in the crash.
Resident

Saranac Lake, NY

#12 Aug 2, 2012
Thats sound about right. The information I have is from the offical accicdent investigation report. The article you have may be from the news feed the public relations office released to the media. Been year since I been at the site. I don't even remember where exactly it is anymore. Would not mind going back to the area and look at whats left. I think its all posted property now. I know there was a great of effort to clean it all up, and if I remember correctly two of the ejections seats were never located. If they were intact it would be quite a find. Survival gear might still be in them. Never know someone may have found them and did not let anyone know.
Dave

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Aug 2, 2012
Resident, I am friends with the land owners and can travel freely, if you would like to meet up at some point, let me know. Its been a few years since Ive been up there myself, even though it is so close.

Believe it or not, i found a piece of harness or parachute cord...with..well, "something" still attached, by melting to it. Graphic.
Smooth Gertrude

Utica, NY

#14 Aug 3, 2012
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Since: Mar 12

United States

#15 Aug 3, 2012
Roman,
I just said I didn't remember anyone getting killed in the B-52 crash in the 70's. I didn't comment on the T-33 crash. And yes I remember it and the pilots that were killed. The 67 crash took place before I came the Griffiss so I had no first hand knowledge of that one.
Resident

Saranac Lake, NY

#16 Aug 3, 2012
Joe S 1212 wrote:
Roman,
I just said I didn't remember anyone getting killed in the B-52 crash in the 70's. I didn't comment on the T-33 crash. And yes I remember it and the pilots that were killed. The 67 crash took place before I came the Griffiss so I had no first hand knowledge of that one.
Thats ok Joe no one expects you to know everything.

Hey Dave I can not get around so I won't be able to join you, but I have a couple of friends that are wreck chasers that might want to. I will pass this thread along to them and see if its something they may want to get with you on.
Smooth Gertrude

Utica, NY

#17 Aug 3, 2012
IT WAS A CRASH LANDING!
Resident

Saranac Lake, NY

#18 Aug 3, 2012
Smooth Gertrude wrote:
IT WAS A CRASH LANDING!
Real funny Capt Howdy.
I Only Remember

Saranac Lake, NY

#19 Aug 3, 2012
I was home sick from school that day. I remember I just happened to look out the window and saw a big fire ball above the trees.
Resident

Saranac Lake, NY

#20 Aug 4, 2012
Dave wrote:
More info i found:
11-2-1967, B-52H, s/n 61-0030, Griffiss AFB, NY...aircraft on training mission experienced number 6 engine fire, engine was shut down, also generator number 5 overheat warning light came on. Command post advised to cancel the mission and return to base. Aircraft was on final GCA approach but was 200 feet above the glide path, a go -around was attempted. After passing the end of runway 15, the aircraft climbed to 2000 feet, wings level, then rolled right which continued past 90 degrees of bank. Bail our order was given, the pilot , navigator and gunner ejected, the pilot and navigator survived. The gunner's seat became entangled with his parachute, he sustained fatal injuries. The IP and navigator, two maintenance men were fatally injured in the crash.
Dave talked to my friend about this. He was a crash investigator on the base. He can't find anything about it. He said he was going to make contact with the property owner to see about going over there, and look around. I will let you know how he makes out, and maybe we can get together on it. Be interesting to see if anything is left.

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