saltynuts

Rome, NY

#65 Jun 17, 2013
bill mahar ''will'' burn in hellfire
Learning

New York, NY

#66 Jun 17, 2013
saltynuts wrote:
bill mahar ''will'' burn in hellfire
1) How do you KNOW what will happen to Bill Mahar?

2) Who are YOU to say what happens to Bill Mahar or anybody else?

3) Do you know what hellfire really is?(Clue: It's not real fire)
Seriously

Danielson, CT

#67 Jun 17, 2013
Your all crazy. Religion is nothing more then a way for average people to feel like their lives mean something. There is no heaven, hell eternal fire or bliss. You die, fertilize the ground with your rotting corpse and that's the end. No magical heaven, no relentless torture in hell. That's all make believe to get people to behave when no one is watching. So again. All make believe.
Learning

New York, NY

#68 Jun 17, 2013
Seriously wrote:
Your all crazy. Religion is nothing more then a way for average people to feel like their lives mean something. There is no heaven, hell eternal fire or bliss. You die, fertilize the ground with your rotting corpse and that's the end. No magical heaven, no relentless torture in hell. That's all make believe to get people to behave when no one is watching. So again. All make believe.
May I ask how you came to this conclusion?
dumb

Rome, NY

#69 Jun 17, 2013
It's common sence!! Let me destro yall the bobles and erase 90% of the worlds population and right a book about santa claus ruling the worl;d as being the creator, if i speak on it enough with promise of eternal hapiness in 2000 years it will be thought of as gospel... GOD is NOT REAL WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
Learning wrote:
<quoted text>
May I ask how you came to this conclusion?
dumb

Rome, NY

#70 Jun 17, 2013
* Peoples not bobles lol... Not sure how that spelling came about
saltynuts

Rome, NY

#71 Jun 17, 2013
atheists ''will'' go to hell trust the bible!
God

Brooklyn, NY

#72 Jun 17, 2013
The bible is a work of fiction and anybody who treats it as anything other than that is severely mentally ill and should be kept away from children.
Seriously

Danielson, CT

#73 Jun 17, 2013
Learning wrote:
<quoted text>May I ask how you came to this conclusion?
Every sentence you speak reinforces my belief that people are ideological sheep with no real capability for rational thought. I wish you well in life and hope you find your eternal happiness. I just think your crazy and believe in fairy tails. Nothing personal, this world is filled with mindless idiots that are incapable of thinking for themselves. Go ahead and give it a try sometime.

id·i·ot
/ˈidēət/
Noun
A stupid person.
A mentally handicapped person.
me

New York, NY

#74 Jun 17, 2013
All should burn in hell !!!!!
God

Brooklyn, NY

#75 Jun 18, 2013
If you think heaven and hell exist, you should be required to wear a helmet and bib when public because you're a danger to yourself and us all.
saltynuts

Rome, NY

#76 Jun 18, 2013
this fake god is a fool
Learning

New York, NY

#77 Jun 18, 2013
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>
Every sentence you speak reinforces my belief that people are ideological sheep with no real capability for rational thought. I wish you well in life and hope you find your eternal happiness. I just think your crazy and believe in fairy tails. Nothing personal, this world is filled with mindless idiots that are incapable of thinking for themselves. Go ahead and give it a try sometime.
id·i·ot
/ˈidēət/
Noun
A stupid person.
A mentally handicapped person.
In order to declare that somebody is crazy, you would have to have the educational background and clinical experience to make such a determination. This would require a personal observation in a clinical setting, using established criteria that is currently practiced within the mental health profession.

Because you don't know me, and yet have attempted to diagnose me, I can conclude that you're not a licensed mental health practitioner, and therefore your entire premise falls flat.

You did not answer my question about how you came to the conclusions that you have about God. Issuing value judgements about another person is an "ad hominem fallacy" and doesn't advance the dialogue at all. So again, since your position (as you stated)is that belief in God is for people incapable of their own thoughts, what evidence can you present to support your conclusion?
Seriously

Danielson, CT

#78 Jun 18, 2013
Learning wrote:
<quoted text>In order to declare that somebody is crazy, you would have to have the educational background and clinical experience to make such a determination. This would require a personal observation in a clinical setting, using established criteria that is currently practiced within the mental health profession.

Because you don't know me, and yet have attempted to diagnose me, I can conclude that you're not a licensed mental health practitioner, and therefore your entire premise falls flat.

You did not answer my question about how you came to the conclusions that you have about God. Issuing value judgements about another person is an "ad hominem fallacy" and doesn't advance the dialogue at all. So again, since your position (as you stated)is that belief in God is for people incapable of their own thoughts, what evidence can you present to support your conclusion?
For starters moron I never claimed anything I said was fact, only my opinion. As for your opinion that I need evidence to back up my theory I suggest you look at your own opinions and try to find actual evidence that your previous e god is anything more then a fairy tail. As far as I can tell millions of people have been looking for centuries and have come up with nothing.
Seriously

Danielson, CT

#79 Jun 18, 2013
Learning wrote:
<quoted text>In order to declare that somebody is crazy, you would have to have the educational background and clinical experience to make such a determination. This would require a personal observation in a clinical setting, using established criteria that is currently practiced within the mental health profession.

Because you don't know me, and yet have attempted to diagnose me, I can conclude that you're not a licensed mental health practitioner, and therefore your entire premise falls flat.

You did not answer my question about how you came to the conclusions that you have about God. Issuing value judgements about another person is an "ad hominem fallacy" and doesn't advance the dialogue at all. So again, since your position (as you stated)is that belief in God is for people incapable of their own thoughts, what evidence can you present to support your conclusion?
Furthermore if you are so sure of the existence of your precious god then why not accept others views as they are. Again your a hypocrite. You look down on anyone who does not share your views and want to debate opinions. That fact of the matter is there is no concrete evidence in your favor and there are countless scientists that can and have proven the theory of evolution. So continue on with your banter. No one cares or wants to stop you. Just know that people think you are a nut. That's all I said. Not everyone because there are billions of others that share your views or a twisted manipulation of them. Look at the Muslims. They believe you are the infidel and are a plague on society. I'm not talking about the extremists either. How can you both be right? How can the Jews, Muslims, Christians and Buddhists all be right? Religion is a sham. Get over it.
Learning

New York, NY

#80 Jun 18, 2013
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>
Furthermore if you are so sure of the existence of your precious god then why not accept others views as they are. Again your a hypocrite. You look down on anyone who does not share your views and want to debate opinions. That fact of the matter is there is no concrete evidence in your favor and there are countless scientists that can and have proven the theory of evolution. So continue on with your banter. No one cares or wants to stop you. Just know that people think you are a nut. That's all I said. Not everyone because there are billions of others that share your views or a twisted manipulation of them. Look at the Muslims. They believe you are the infidel and are a plague on society. I'm not talking about the extremists either. How can you both be right? How can the Jews, Muslims, Christians and Buddhists all be right? Religion is a sham. Get over it.
I am not looking down on you. I don't know you and I have no reason to look down on you or judge you. I said you're judging me as crazy for believing what I believe. You don't have to accept what I believe. I asked how you came to the conclusion that there isn't a God. That's a fair question for me to ask. So for the third (3rd) time, how did you come to the conclusion that there is no God?

Now, with respect to some of your views, evolution can be true. It doesn't rule out initial creation. There could be a God who created everything and then allowed it to evolve through time. So both creation and evolution can be true.

As for different religions, you're quite correct that they can't all be true. Furthermore, "religion" isn't what I'm into. Spirituality is what I'm into. And I believe there is plenty of evidence to support the Christian worldview that Jesus Christ rose from the dead, and if true, we have a wonderful opportunity to have eternal life. If you're interested in the evidence I find so compelling, I'll be glad to share that evidence with you. You're not obligated to believe it of course, but I will present it at your request.
Seriously

Danielson, CT

#81 Jun 18, 2013
Learning wrote:
<quoted text>I am not looking down on you. I don't know you and I have no reason to look down on you or judge you. I said you're judging me as crazy for believing what I believe. You don't have to accept what I believe. I asked how you came to the conclusion that there isn't a God. That's a fair question for me to ask. So for the third (3rd) time, how did you come to the conclusion that there is no God?

Now, with respect to some of your views, evolution can be true. It doesn't rule out initial creation. There could be a God who created everything and then allowed it to evolve through time. So both creation and evolution can be true.

As for different religions, you're quite correct that they can't all be true. Furthermore, "religion" isn't what I'm into. Spirituality is what I'm into. And I believe there is plenty of evidence to support the Christian worldview that Jesus Christ rose from the dead, and if true, we have a wonderful opportunity to have eternal life. If you're interested in the evidence I find so compelling, I'll be glad to share that evidence with you. You're not obligated to believe it of course, but I will present it at your request.
Spare me the fairy tail. I will now leave you with a simple question. If your religion is so great then why have so many involved in it been accused of so many crimes. No other religion in the world hides or conceals crimes like the Vatican does. The religion you affiliate yourself with molests children and then lies, cheats and threatens people to hide the truth. These are facts my friend. Not opinions. So if you want to associate with these people. Go ahead, but don't expect the rest of us to think your different then they are. You clearly support them with every donation, prayer or comment you post on here. I hope you feel good about yourself and think every day about the people your religion has murdered, molested, tortured or just lied to. Again religion is a lie. Don't bother with a response. I will not reply again.
Learning

New York, NY

#82 Jun 18, 2013
The Vatican is the head of the Catholic church, and does not represent all who call themselves Christian. Yes people have done terrible things that they shouldn't have. There's no denying that. Please be aware that many Christians do NOT condone or support these things. There are many different groups who call themselves Christian and don't act like it. The donations we make go to many different causes and because many Christians are protestant, none of these donations even go to the Vatican.

Painting everybody with the same brush doesn't work. It may help you understand if you engage in civil conversation with just one of us.

"Religion" can be a bad thing. But it's worth noting that "Religion" and "Spirituality" are two different things. Even Jesus Christ himself didn't like "religion." Many people today are simply uninformed, or even worse misinformed. It is not my intention to convert you, nor judge you, but I seek to understand you, and I also seek to inform you that not everybody or every group is the same. I once thought the same way, and now I know better.
myquestion

New York, NY

#83 Jun 18, 2013
If we did not have the sun(jesus) of the universe(god) in our life would mankind be alive(saved)?
Learning

New York, NY

#84 Jun 19, 2013
myquestion wrote:
If we did not have the sun(jesus) of the universe(god) in our life would mankind be alive(saved)?
God is eternal and created the universe. As a Christian I believe in the Holy Trinity of God the Father, God the Son (not 'sun'), and God the Holy Spirit. Now to answer your question, for anything to be "saved" it must already exist. The definition of "saved" is past tense (referring to something that already happened) and means that something has been withheld from being discarded or terminated.

In biblical context, Jesus offered His life so that our iniquities (willful shortcomings) would not be held against us, and we can go on to eternal life after bodily death. For a deeper explanation, I suggest reading "King's Cross" by Timothy Keller, and "Simply Jesus" by N.T. Wright.

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