Atheists/Non-believers of Rome?
Stop

Brooklyn, NY

#45 Jun 13, 2013
How can we expect for the flesh to understand that of the Spirit? Coming to Christ is a personal decision, not one which is forced. As Christians its our job to tell the world there is a savior, that's it. What they do with that information is up to them...

On a second note, many claim to be Christian but, they live for the world, not the Lord.

"On that day many will say Lord, Lord, have we not prophecy in your name and in your nname done many works and in your nname cast out demons? And I will say onto them, I never knew you. Depart from me you who work iniquity." ~ The Lord

Its not about religion or your works. Its all about the Lord and his works. If you are not one with the Spirit and producing fruit, cry out to him and give him your life. He is everything and all that matters.
Atheist

Hamilton, NY

#46 Jun 13, 2013
Stop wrote:
As Christians its our job to tell the world there is a savior, that's it.
I don't need a savior. I've done nothing that I need to be "saved" for. The doctrine of original sin is a joke. Punishing children for the sins of their fathers sounds like North Korean social policy to me.
Stop wrote:
If you are not one with the Spirit and producing fruit, cry out to him and give him your life. He is everything and all that matters.
I have no reason to believe that such a being exists. The ontological, teleological, and cosmological arguments for god are jokes. William Lane Craig is a joke, Alvin Plantinga is a joke, the vast majority of professional philosophers are atheists, see for yourself:

http://philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl
Seriously

Ardsley, NY

#47 Jun 13, 2013
I wouldn't be so against religion if everyone involved with it wasn't such a moron. They preach we are all created equal and look down on anyone who does not share their same beliefs. Sounds like hypocrites to me. Believe what you want, but don't judge others based on their views and then act morally superior because they don't agree with yours. And why would anyone follow a bunch of child molesters, extremist criminals or nuts in general? I don't get it.
Reply

Brooklyn, NY

#48 Jun 14, 2013
Atheist wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't need a savior. I've done nothing that I need to be "saved" for. The doctrine of original sin is a joke. Punishing children for the sins of their fathers sounds like North Korean social policy to me.
<quoted text>
I have no reason to believe that such a being exists. The ontological, teleological, and cosmological arguments for god are jokes. William Lane Craig is a joke, Alvin Plantinga is a joke, the vast majority of professional philosophers are atheists, see for yourself:
http://philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl
No one is perfect, we all are sinners in the Father's eyes. Do you have lustful thoughts? That's a sin. How about lying? How about living for yourself and not the Lord? Those are sins. How about denying our Lord? That's a sin. Only those in Christ will see the Kingdom of Heaven. If you're right, I have nothing to lose. If I'm right, an eternity in Hell is a long time. I hope the things of the world were worth it. For you have already found Hell, we are in the Kingdom. Heaven isn't up there, is right here, for those who embrace the Lord. I for one know he is very real, as well as demons. I just wish the flesh could experience the Spirit. Jesus loves you, the gift he has given you is invaluable. You just have to embrace it :).
Reply

Brooklyn, NY

#49 Jun 14, 2013
Seriously wrote:
I wouldn't be so against religion if everyone involved with it wasn't such a moron. They preach we are all created equal and look down on anyone who does not share their same beliefs. Sounds like hypocrites to me. Believe what you want, but don't judge others based on their views and then act morally superior because they don't agree with yours. And why would anyone follow a bunch of child molesters, extremist criminals or nuts in general? I don't get it.
Jesus is life, religion is death. Let those who have ears hear...
Not Here To Convert

Brooklyn, NY

#50 Jun 14, 2013
As my screen name suggests, I'm not here to convert anyone. I can't convert anyone, and no Christian should ever say they can convert anyone. Now with that said, I do feel it's useful to engage in intelligent conversation about such topics.

Lori, I admire your courage in stepping forward for your faith. The example that was given about covering head during prayer was written by the apostle Paul to the church at Corinth. It's important to note that Paul was a Jewish convert to Christianity, and that the Jewish culture at that time was extremely patriarchal. Men were viewed as having higher status than women, and Paul's writing reflects this.

While the bible is the inspired word of God, the personalities of the authors are plainly evident in the writings. For those with sincere questions, I'll be glad to answer them.

To those who call themselves Christians:

Atheists are NOT our enemies. They are our fellow human beings and we should not judge them or condemn them. Never be so arrogant to think that we are better people, because no one person is better than another. So don't threaten them with Hell or eternal damnation of any kind. Hell is not what people think it is.

Atheists:

I ask that you understand that not all who call themselves Christians behave so childish. The mature Christian will treat you with respect and humility. We will passionately defend our faith, but we don't need to be rude or disrespectful to do so. I ask that you consider when you meet somebody who calls themselves a Christian, that you consider their actions. If they're rude, then they're not being very Christ like.

Have a good day and God Bless all who seek for answers.
The Man

Jamesville, NY

#51 Jun 14, 2013
Reply wrote:
<quoted text>
No one is perfect, we all are sinners in the Father's eyes. Do you have lustful thoughts? That's a sin. How about lying? How about living for yourself and not the Lord? Those are sins. How about denying our Lord? That's a sin. Only those in Christ will see the Kingdom of Heaven. If you're right, I have nothing to lose. If I'm right, an eternity in Hell is a long time. I hope the things of the world were worth it. For you have already found Hell, we are in the Kingdom. Heaven isn't up there, is right here, for those who embrace the Lord. I for one know he is very real, as well as demons. I just wish the flesh could experience the Spirit. Jesus loves you, the gift he has given you is invaluable. You just have to embrace it :).
You have a mental illness...
God

Brooklyn, NY

#52 Jun 14, 2013
Religious people support and enable fundamentalism and extremism. You're no better than the Nazis if you call yourself a Christian, Muslim, or Jew. In fact, you're worse. Most of the horrible things in the world occur very directly as a result of religion. You are immoral and holding the world back from being a better place. There's no hell but if there were religious people would all go there.
God

Brooklyn, NY

#53 Jun 14, 2013
Also, anyone who brings their children to church is a sick bastard and should be put in jail for child abuse.
Learning

Brooklyn, NY

#54 Jun 15, 2013
God wrote:
Religious people support and enable fundamentalism and extremism. You're no better than the Nazis if you call yourself a Christian, Muslim, or Jew. In fact, you're worse. Most of the horrible things in the world occur very directly as a result of religion. You are immoral and holding the world back from being a better place. There's no hell but if there were religious people would all go there.
Not all religious people are fundamentalists or extremists. A lot of terrible things have been done in the name of religion. It's important that we not place all religious people into a single category. If we can talk with people who have different views, and keep an open mind about what we're discussing, we may start to understand others views and not be so harsh on our fellow man.
Seriously

Springfield, NJ

#55 Jun 15, 2013
Learning wrote:
<quoted text>Not all religious people are fundamentalists or extremists. A lot of terrible things have been done in the name of religion. It's important that we not place all religious people into a single category. If we can talk with people who have different views, and keep an open mind about what we're discussing, we may start to understand others views and not be so harsh on our fellow man.
Get reel. You pretend not to judge people and then try to force your views on them. When they laugh at you because the nonsense you spew is obviously made up bull&@$t you then judge us based on our beliefs. Sounds like a hypocrite to me. If you associate with drug addicts don't be surprised if people think you are one. Same goes for Religion. You associate with child molesters and hypocrites don't be surprised if people think you are that too.
sad

Hamilton, NY

#56 Jun 15, 2013
So sad is this day and age people still believe in such nonsence. I thought we had moed passed such childhood superstition.
Learning

Brooklyn, NY

#57 Jun 15, 2013
Our views should never be forced on anyone. And we have no right to judge you based upon your beliefs. Fundamentalist extremists can and do cause dissent and misunderstandings, but that doesn't mean that all religious or spiritual people are the same. Believe it or not, it was fundamentalist extremists who were responsible for wrongly executing Jesus. The Pharisees were the ruling Hebrew religious group in 1st century Jerusalem, and it was they who turned Jesus over to the Romans for execution. I wouldn't be surprised if the fundamentalist extremists we see today (like the Westboro Baptist Church) would act the same way.

Yes, a lot of horrible things have been done within religion, and there is no excuse for those who committed such acts, but saying that everyone who believes in God or goes to church is a hypocrite is stereotyping. It doesn't do any good to portray everyone as a monster when the majority of spiritual people lead decent, productive lives and do their best to help others just because it's the right thing to do.
Seriously

Springfield, NJ

#58 Jun 15, 2013
Learning wrote:
Our views should never be forced on anyone. And we have no right to judge you based upon your beliefs. Fundamentalist extremists can and do cause dissent and misunderstandings, but that doesn't mean that all religious or spiritual people are the same. Believe it or not, it was fundamentalist extremists who were responsible for wrongly executing Jesus. The Pharisees were the ruling Hebrew religious group in 1st century Jerusalem, and it was they who turned Jesus over to the Romans for execution. I wouldn't be surprised if the fundamentalist extremists we see today (like the Westboro Baptist Church) would act the same way.

Yes, a lot of horrible things have been done within religion, and there is no excuse for those who committed such acts, but saying that everyone who believes in God or goes to church is a hypocrite is stereotyping. It doesn't do any good to portray everyone as a monster when the majority of spiritual people lead decent, productive lives and do their best to help others just because it's the right thing to do.
I guess I can agree with you. I don't care who believes in what, just don't judge me for my beliefs or lack there of.
salty nuts

Utica, NY

#59 Jun 15, 2013
bill mahar will burn in hell little does that dumb ass know it!
Learning

Brooklyn, NY

#60 Jun 15, 2013
salty nuts wrote:
bill mahar will burn in hell little does that dumb ass know it!
Do you have any idea of what "hell" really is? Bill Mahar isn't going to burn in hell. When statements like that are made, it drives people away, and it also constitutes judging others. We're not supposed to judge other people. We can look at the actions of people and learn not to do the same thing, and that's okay. But judging another person is wrong. We're not God.
God

Brooklyn, NY

#61 Jun 15, 2013
I am
God

Brooklyn, NY

#62 Jun 15, 2013
Learning wrote:
<quoted text>
Not all religious people are fundamentalists or extremists. A lot of terrible things have been done in the name of religion. It's important that we not place all religious people into a single category. If we can talk with people who have different views, and keep an open mind about what we're discussing, we may start to understand others views and not be so harsh on our fellow man.
I never claimed that all religious folk are extremists. I claimed that being religious and supporting a specific religion helps enable the extremists. "I mean yeah I'm a member of the Nazi party but, like, I don't kill people or anything like that, you know? Don't cast all Nazis in a negative light just because of the fundamentalists!"
I believe

Saranac Lake, NY

#63 Jun 16, 2013
in god, and goddess too, as symbols of the male and female principles of the earth.

I believe in the big bang theory and evolution.

You can read about the big bang in the bible...oh wait, it's not in there....

I believe in the bible as a slightly skewed history of some of the world. It's hard to not mess it up when you have to memorize it. Since it starts at the beginning, I mean. Before we knew our ABCs

/ends sarcasm, removes tounge from cheek, and wanders off to watch the magic work
Lori

Watervliet, NY

#64 Jun 17, 2013
Not Here To Convert wrote:
As my screen name suggests, I'm not here to convert anyone. I can't convert anyone, and no Christian should ever say they can convert anyone. Now with that said, I do feel it's useful to engage in intelligent conversation about such topics.
Lori, I admire your courage in stepping forward for your faith. The example that was given about covering head during prayer was written by the apostle Paul to the church at Corinth. It's important to note that Paul was a Jewish convert to Christianity, and that the Jewish culture at that time was extremely patriarchal. Men were viewed as having higher status than women, and Paul's writing reflects this.
While the bible is the inspired word of God, the personalities of the authors are plainly evident in the writings. For those with sincere questions, I'll be glad to answer them.
To those who call themselves Christians:
Atheists are NOT our enemies. They are our fellow human beings and we should not judge them or condemn them. Never be so arrogant to think that we are better people, because no one person is better than another. So don't threaten them with Hell or eternal damnation of any kind. Hell is not what people think it is.
Atheists:
I ask that you understand that not all who call themselves Christians behave so childish. The mature Christian will treat you with respect and humility. We will passionately defend our faith, but we don't need to be rude or disrespectful to do so. I ask that you consider when you meet somebody who calls themselves a Christian, that you consider their actions. If they're rude, then they're not being very Christ like.
Have a good day and God Bless all who seek for answers.
I agree!

We are to love our neighbors as ourselves. It is not our job to judge anyone. Unfortunately it is human nature and no one is perfect. I do not claim to be perfect. But I do know I believe in God and I believe his son died on the cross to save us from our sins. I am not a perfect Christian but I strive every day to do God's will. I feel compassion for the lost and the angry hearts for there is a better way if they would just ask God to show them.

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