dolby labs

Watertown, NY

#44 Mar 29, 2012
atheists_worst_nightmare wrote:
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Excommunication may not seem serious in a secular context, but when a priest or pastor is excommunicated, it also removes and disqualifies them from their duties such as counseling, teaching, and blah blah blah blah, ramble, blabber as if this post has any relevance to Atheists.
Amusing name. I'm Atheist. Funny you're not a nightmare to me. You're not even mild indigestion. You're just background noise.

Since: Mar 12

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#45 Mar 29, 2012
dolby labs wrote:
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Amusing name. I'm Atheist. Funny you're not a nightmare to me. You're not even mild indigestion. You're just background noise.
Is that the essence of any case you're trying to make? I chose the name because I'm a former atheist.

"Treason is damnable because the traitor knows the path his former comrades will take, even before they march."

-Unknown
dolby labs

Watertown, NY

#46 Mar 29, 2012
atheists_worst_nightmare wrote:
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Is that the essence of any case you're trying to make? I chose the name because I'm a former atheist.
"Treason is damnable because the traitor knows the path his former comrades will take, even before they march."
-Unknown
how profound.
sigh...
guest

Brooklyn, NY

#47 Mar 29, 2012
atheists_worst_nightmare wrote:
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Excommunication may not seem serious in a secular context, but when a priest or pastor is excommunicated, it also removes and disqualifies them from their duties such as counseling, teaching, and other functions that involve or require public trust.
For example, when a priest or pastor graduates from a seminary or theological school,and is ordained, they usually possess a doctorate degree (Ph.D.)in Theology, and they are legally permitted to conduct marriage counseling, family counseling, marriages, negotiations, etc. If a priest or pastor violates a law either overtly, or through negligence, they also violate the code of conduct that is expected of them. In the case of the Roman Catholic priests who molested children, excommunication is the church's way of disqualifying them from counseling and other duties that would place them in contact with children. This is the church's way of trying to protect the congregation from such negative behaviors. It's not just a slap on the wrist. For a priest, it means being fired. Excommunication is a term that simply removes their right to receive communion in a religious service, but it also means being cut off from their income as priests.
So, taken as a whole, these priests should have been charged, tried, convicted, sentenced to jail, registered as sex offenders, and excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church so that they can never again use their position as priests to gain access to innocent children.
So if someone is excommunicated for something not related to
molesting children, they lose their job as a teacher at the school district or a counselor at the local mental health clinic?? And how does a theology degree qualify them for any of those positions in the first place? I'd want any counselor of mine to at the minimum have a post-grad degree in social work, if not a full psychology degree. The last thing I want is someone to have a degree in superstitions and mysticism to tell me how to rewire my brain.

Since: Mar 12

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#48 Mar 29, 2012
guest wrote:
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So if someone is excommunicated for something not related to
molesting children, they lose their job as a teacher at the school district or a counselor at the local mental health clinic?? And how does a theology degree qualify them for any of those positions in the first place? I'd want any counselor of mine to at the minimum have a post-grad degree in social work, if not a full psychology degree. The last thing I want is someone to have a degree in superstitions and mysticism to tell me how to rewire my brain.
No, excommunication in the context that I explained it only pertains to priests and pastors. A priest may teach at a Catholic school, because his degree meets the requirements of New York State to be a teacher. A priest or pastor is also qualified to offer counseling to families as it relates to their spiritual beliefs. You probably won't find a pastor or priest working in a mental health clinic. Most members of the clergy do possess multiple degrees in philosophy, psychology, and other related disciplines. They also go through extensive psychiatric and psychological screening exams prior to being ordained.
guest

Brooklyn, NY

#49 Mar 29, 2012
atheists_worst_nightmare wrote:
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No, excommunication in the context that I explained it only pertains to priests and pastors. A priest may teach at a Catholic school, because his degree meets the requirements of New York State to be a teacher. A priest or pastor is also qualified to offer counseling to families as it relates to their spiritual beliefs. You probably won't find a pastor or priest working in a mental health clinic. Most members of the clergy do possess multiple degrees in philosophy, psychology, and other related disciplines. They also go through extensive psychiatric and psychological screening exams prior to being ordained.
Well I'm an atheist, and since the point of this thread was to find other atheists in Rome and not debate the existance of mysticism and superstitions, lets get back on track. My proposal is lets do some science projects and after we'll have awesome pot luck dinners? We'll excommunicate and enslave anyone who doesn't bring a proper dish... Potato chips and soda are NOT appropriate.

Or we could all go in on a bus trip to NY to the Hayden Planetarium, or arrange a trip for a group tour to the GE turbine plant in Schenectady. I bet that place is pretty cool.

Or we can all have an orgy and sacrifice some people in the name of Tesla (The band that is)
lawls

United States

#50 Mar 29, 2012
ah catholics, life begins at conception so they can screw the kids a little earlier. What a religion!

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#51 Mar 30, 2012
guest wrote:
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Well I'm an atheist, and since the point of this thread was to find other atheists in Rome and not debate the existance of mysticism and superstitions, lets get back on track. My proposal is lets do some science projects and after we'll have awesome pot luck dinners? We'll excommunicate and enslave anyone who doesn't bring a proper dish... Potato chips and soda are NOT appropriate.
Or we could all go in on a bus trip to NY to the Hayden Planetarium, or arrange a trip for a group tour to the GE turbine plant in Schenectady. I bet that place is pretty cool.
Or we can all have an orgy and sacrifice some people in the name of Tesla (The band that is)
Tesla is an awesome band. Their first album 'Mechanical Resonance' is still my favorite. I hear what you're saying about finding other atheists. I respect that you want to gather with others who share your beliefs,(or lack thereof), but when some Christians see the word "atheism" they cringe as if you're not civilized. That's not true as I know from experience. For the mature Christian, debating or discussing theology is just an exchange of ideologies and culture. Sure it can get a bit heated sometimes, but any debate can. Atheism by it's very nature is bound to draw it's cultural opponents to it like a moth to a flame. Some Christians are afraid to debate or discuss, but I welcome it because it gives everyone observing the debate a chance to see both sides of the topic. I don't have to convince you personally, but in debating with you, I show how my beliefs may be relevant to a wider audience.
Go to the pew

United States

#52 Mar 30, 2012
atheists_worst_nightmare wrote:
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Tesla is an awesome band. Their first album 'Mechanical Resonance' is still my favorite. I hear what you're saying about finding other atheists. I respect that you want to gather with others who share your beliefs,(or lack thereof), but when some Christians see the word "atheism" they cringe as if you're not civilized. That's not true as I know from experience. For the mature Christian, debating or discussing theology is just an exchange of ideologies and culture. Sure it can get a bit heated sometimes, but any debate can. Atheism by it's very nature is bound to draw it's cultural opponents to it like a moth to a flame. Some Christians are afraid to debate or discuss, but I welcome it because it gives everyone observing the debate a chance to see both sides of the topic. I don't have to convince you personally, but in debating with you, I show how my beliefs may be relevant to a wider audience.
get a clue then genius. start a thread that suits your mission. your hijacking this one is like a fart in church.

Since: Mar 12

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#53 Mar 30, 2012
Go to the pew wrote:
<quoted text>get a clue then genius. start a thread that suits your mission. your hijacking this one is like a fart in church.
Contrary to popular belief, farting in church isn't a sin.
Go to the pew

United States

#54 Mar 30, 2012
atheists_worst_nightmare wrote:
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Contrary to popular belief, farting in church isn't a sin.
That's right but it's just not the right time or place to siht your pants just like this thread is not the place for your diatribe....but you'll keep passing gas here. Somebody light a match.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#55 Mar 30, 2012
Go to the pew wrote:
<quoted text>That's right but it's just not the right time or place to siht your pants just like this thread is not the place for your diatribe....but you'll keep passing gas here. Somebody light a match.
If I start my own thread will you discuss your views with me?
Go to the pew

United States

#56 Mar 30, 2012
atheists_worst_nightmare wrote:
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If I start my own thread will you discuss your views with me?
No. My views don't require your validation. Evidently you're needy in that respect so start a thread and invite readers to engage YOUR chosen topic....or continue to hijack this one. Seems kind of desperate to me though.
guest

Brooklyn, NY

#57 Mar 30, 2012
atheists_worst_nightmare wrote:
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If I start my own thread will you discuss your views with me?
Can you tell us then why the story of "Jesus" happened so many times in the past before this current iteration popped up ~2000 years ago? But those instances of virgin births and resurrections aren't given the same credence?
no god

Utica, NY

#58 Mar 30, 2012
I like when they killed jesus in Waco.
guest

Brooklyn, NY

#59 Mar 30, 2012
no god wrote:
I like when they killed jesus in Waco.
On Lowes.com , I was looking up stock at a store in NYC, and they have a plumber on file named Jesus so I emailed and told them they listed it wrong but received no response.
no god

Utica, NY

#60 Mar 30, 2012
guest wrote:
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On Lowes.com , I was looking up stock at a store in NYC, and they have a plumber on file named Jesus so I emailed and told them they listed it wrong but received no response.
Just like all prayers.
its to

Brooklyn, NY

#61 Mar 30, 2012
No answer is to tell you to beleive in yourself and do it yourself, dont sit on your butt and pray for welfare checks like democrats and liberals.

yeah yeah i know, i'm bright

Since: Mar 12

Stevensville, MD

#62 Mar 30, 2012
eww wrote:
ok so u like child molesting priests? good for u but I choose for my son to NOT be molested tyvm
I'm with ya there and some of these people just don't have a clue
The Reason Rally

Brooklyn, NY

#63 Mar 31, 2012
The Reason Rally

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good video, had mythbusters andother people there

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