Since: Jan 08

Rome

#154 Apr 5, 2013
Here is the issue wrote:
Going back to state work, prisons are not desirable in any community.
I agree with pretty much all you said. However, can you show us some evidence that prisons harm a community?

If you look at the data for small cities in NY state, comparing socio-economic data such as crime rates, median income and levels of free-and-reduced-lunch/breakfa st in public schools, there is virtually no difference between cities with prisons and cities without prisons.

One interesting thing I note, there seems to be a correlation between higher crime, lower wages and more welfare in cities that are on the NYS Thruway when compared to cities that are not on the Thruway. The correlation is small, but not as small as the effects of prisons.

I would gladly look at data that proves me wrong.

I said data, not opinions.
Pepino

New York, NY

#156 Apr 6, 2013
Let the law do it's job. Yes it is scary. I think the killer was an out of towner anyways..
Here is the Issue

New York, NY

#157 Apr 6, 2013
frankcor wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with pretty much all you said. However, can you show us some evidence that prisons harm a community?
If you look at the data for small cities in NY state, comparing socio-economic data such as crime rates, median income and levels of free-and-reduced-lunch/breakfa st in public schools, there is virtually no difference between cities with prisons and cities without prisons.
One interesting thing I note, there seems to be a correlation between higher crime, lower wages and more welfare in cities that are on the NYS Thruway when compared to cities that are not on the Thruway. The correlation is small, but not as small as the effects of prisons.
I would gladly look at data that proves me wrong.
I said data, not opinions.
Thank you for taking the time to respond. I would like to state that prisons are beneficial in regards to some aspects, but there is a negative side as well. You do make some valid points, I find that statics give a poor representation of the situation though. Many factors play into a community's profile. As for correctional institutions specifically, here are some statistics.
* According to the NYSDOC there were 10 escapes between the years of 2006 and 2010.
* In August of 1988 a nurse at a local hospital in Utica, NY was assualted by an inmate who was being escorted by NYS prison officials. The nurse contracted the HIV virus and was awarded 5.4 million.
* According to the USDOJ Bureau of Justice Statistics 70% of "larcenists" re-offend after release.
* According to the FBI there are 1.4 active gang members who are viewed as a security threat group member. This includes inmates housed in correctional institutions including NYS. Inmates have access to fellow members on the street via phone, visitation, mail and in some institutions email.
* Gangs are responsible for 48% of violent crimes and 90% of several non violent crimes.
* In 1999 24.7% of inmates were recognized as being active gang member associates of street gangs.
* Prisoners have the highest rates of Aids, HIV, other STD's, Hep, tuberculosis and mental illness.
* Prisoners are transported through our community everyday.
* The ideal time for a prisoner to escape is during an escorted trip.
These are just a few areas of concern. When having a thousand convicted felons in close proximity to a community. Prisons attract their associates and exposes the citizens of rural communities to the posibility of violence. Prisons are just one source of these concerns though.
Prisons are beneficial as well due to the financial support the give the community.
As long as NYS continues to support our brave correctional officers and maintain staffing at acceptable levels, we can feel safe. Yes, the correctional institutions attract undesirable people at times, but it is the responsibilty of the police department to protect their citizens and deter crime.
I am in no way saying every associate of an inmate is a criminal.
Some inmates are career criminals and some made serious mistakes.
It takes one incident, one mistake and one second to see the devastation a prison could have in a community. Escapes can lead to dangerous, deadly and sorrowful situations. Its our responsibility as citizens to ensure our governor and elected officials give our correctional officers the support they need. Thank you again for your response.
Here is the Issue

New York, NY

#158 Apr 6, 2013
Mrs Folgers says wrote:
Um, uh, er, "what evidence that prisons harm a community?"
Perhaps the 5000 PERCENT increase in murders and violent crime in Rome since the prison?!? The Rome Police Department becoming worthless, arrogant, criminals themselves, ignoring crime, caring only to frame people for traffic violations that didn't occur in order to get easy traffic citation money and promotions? The prison scum and their equally scumbag families moving up here and taking their ghetto habits with them, while the Pigs fiddle?
Ah, forget it. The ten pink elephants have left the room. Bet you didn't see them either.
Wake the *fuck* up, Rome. Your coffee is waiting. Smell it.
Love,
Mrs Folgers
<quoted text>
If I were mayor, every corrupt cop would face time in a correctional institution. As I said before; a mayor must be persistent, judgemental and determined. That includes the supervision of their staff appointed below his or her office. Police Officers are not above the law, they are to obey the law and be held to a higher standard. I would not pin a badge on anyone who doesn't wear such badge for the people they are to protect and SERVE. Oppression is NOT an option.
Wanda

Rome, NY

#159 Apr 6, 2013
Here is the Issue wrote:
<quoted text>
If I were mayor, every corrupt cop would face time in a correctional institution. As I said before; a mayor must be persistent, judgemental and determined. That includes the supervision of their staff appointed below his or her office. Police Officers are not above the law, they are to obey the law and be held to a higher standard. I would not pin a badge on anyone who doesn't wear such badge for the people they are to protect and SERVE. Oppression is NOT an option.
Earlier today someone named "Retired" stated pretty much the same points you made. In that post he let people know he was in law enforcement for many years, but retired years ago.(not a Rome cop)but he did at some point had to work with them, and he was very critical of some of the officers in the RPD. He was critical of some of them with arrogant attitudes, and they have let the badge go to their heads. I see now tonight that post has been removed. I read it carefully and the person was not nasty, he just really let them know that they needed to clean up their act. He called them cops with "Cowboy" attitudes. I thought it was a good post, but apparently someone else didn't think so and had it removed. I have to agree with him. I was riding with my Uncle and we were stopped for doing 6 miles over the speed limit. The guy had such an attitude about him. He was in my opinion rude and verbally abusive when I Uncle did not answer his questions fast enough. To think this is who we are suppose to go to when there is a problem? Not me. I will take my chances with the criminal, and to think this guy is a cop. No wonder people don't respect them, and why should they when they act like that, and then they wonder why.
Whatrutalkinabou

Watertown, NY

#160 Apr 6, 2013
What the heck are you talking about "here is the issue". what does your comment have to do with a couple of shootings??? Grow up and try to stay focused on the topic ya dummy!
Ear on the street

Utica, NY

#161 Apr 6, 2013
Heard the dude was a drug dealer running drugs from Alabama heard some dude snook was involved
Wanda

Rome, NY

#162 Apr 6, 2013
Whatrutalkinabou wrote:
What the heck are you talking about "here is the issue". what does your comment have to do with a couple of shootings??? Grow up and try to stay focused on the topic ya dummy!
My comment was a response to the others person comment on police officers. Why don't you read the comment I responded instead of running you mouth. Its all related to the Topix if you read any of it.
Wanda

Rome, NY

#163 Apr 6, 2013
Whatrutalkinabou wrote:
What the heck are you talking about "here is the issue". what does your comment have to do with a couple of shootings??? Grow up and try to stay focused on the topic ya dummy!
Sorry my mistake I meant to post my remarks to the other persons comment
SaraB

New York, NY

#164 Apr 7, 2013
Whatrutalkinabou wrote:
What the heck are you talking about "here is the issue". what does your comment have to do with a couple of shootings??? Grow up and try to stay focused on the topic ya dummy!
Good old Rome =D... Someone makes finally makes sense and we get "this is to much for my small mind to understand." Haha, live in your bubble of ignorance. Small minds discuss ppl, the average mind discusses events and the intelligent mind discusses ideas. Just saying....
SaraB

New York, NY

#165 Apr 7, 2013
Here is the Issue wrote:
<quoted text>
If I were mayor, every corrupt cop would face time in a correctional institution. As I said before; a mayor must be persistent, judgemental and determined. That includes the supervision of their staff appointed below his or her office. Police Officers are not above the law, they are to obey the law and be held to a higher standard. I would not pin a badge on anyone who doesn't wear such badge for the people they are to protect and SERVE. Oppression is NOT an option.
Here is the issue for mayor!
Pretty soon

Meriden, CT

#166 Apr 7, 2013
There will be no $$$$$$ to pay anyone oppressive or not.

Name the oppressive officers names......
Pretty soon

Meriden, CT

#167 Apr 7, 2013
Your mayor sucks........his name is BUM FUSCO!
The People

Camden, NY

#169 Apr 7, 2013
I was pulled over a few month ago for a brake light out.The cop asked me where i was going.That question pissed me off i felt like telling him on my way to see your wife.Y is it his business where i was going.Cops need to show respect to get respect!
Real Hello Again

Tully, NY

#170 Apr 7, 2013
get over it & JUST answer his question, you IDIOT!
Unattractive

Rome, NY

#171 Apr 7, 2013
People who say they are corrupt more than likely broke the law. My son? Was he arrested for being a punk. This makes sense now who it is. More like Ms. Loud mouth who's son is a punk.
Unattractive

Rome, NY

#172 Apr 7, 2013
Who herself was in jail before.
The People

Anonymous Proxy

#173 Apr 7, 2013
Real Hello Again your an IDIOT!Cops have no right to ask you where your going for being pulled over with a brake light out.You only have to put your window down far enough to hand them your paper work.Try doing that and they will be pissed.Most cops are on a power trip!
Bahahaha

Rome, NY

#174 Apr 8, 2013
Ya mean social media big mouths? TRUE.
rome citizen

Brooklyn, NY

#176 Apr 8, 2013
Here is one bad police officer his name is Kevin James he is arrogent and he is a bully he will tell you he will give you a ticket in his rude condecending attitude above the law hiding under the veil of the badge and cant count the number of times he fixes or does away with tickets for his friends let every police officer ask themselves who uses his name at a stop to get out of something mabe thaty should be looked at until we clean up the people in charge this city has no creditability and will never change people dont trust RPD for very good reason

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