women in combat? what's your pro-and-con thoughts?

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misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#1 Jan 29, 2013
if they fight they will get maimed, killed, and mentally stressed just like men AND if our government and laws allow it.
haven't given deep thought to this but off the top of my head are a couple things...and there are some plain 'ol physical things that come to mind; (and please folks, donlt jump me for these thoughts...i'm just trying to initiate some dialogue becuase it IS A HOT TOPIC and A REAL DECISION BEING MADE....so, consider:

>IF they are not killed, and when they do come back, do you think their TREATMENT and BENEFITS should be the same as for men?...in other words, do you believe women's groups or the female warriors themselves can't reverse course, come back from war and say, "well, we need to be treated differently because we are women"?

>can a 120LB, 140LB 160LB woman drag/carry an unconcious or wounded man of 160LBS, 180LBS, 200LBS to safety under enemy fire?

>what happens when they have to pee in a combat zone?...especially with all the 'gear', harnesses, straps, etc., etc., etc.(this is NO laughing matter....please don't make it so)

>menstrual periods while on combat missions (they can be scheduled "off" duty during these times, but is that fair to male soldiers having to fill-in?)....or maybe the medic carries tampons in the medic bag?...again, all the gear has to be removed for this procedure.

>from what we've seen of all the gear the soldiers in our mid-east wars have to carry and wear, will women be able to physically sustain the same duration of missions with that weight?

>treatment IF captured by the enemy?...is our government and are supporters of women in combat considering the possibility of rape and sexual deviation by the enemy toward women POW's?

>will the latent, severe, PTSD prevent them from conceiving children if they want to have a family after returning from war?...not to mention the physical wounds.

candidly, i think there are indeed warrior roles for women who want to be in combat...snipers, artillery operations, heavy combat artillery operation, calling in airstrikes, etc., etc., etc. they can even particpiate in short-term foot-patrol/reconnissance and search-and-destry missions carrying assault rifles, etc.(these of course are the most dangerous)...but long-term mssions? not so sure on that one.
sammigirl

Cedartown, GA

#2 Jan 31, 2013
I think I can do anything a man can do except pee on a tree while standing up. Can you? Legends are hard to follow!
Cedartown Resident

AOL

#3 Feb 3, 2013
I'm all for putting MISTICO on the front battle lines......
sammigirl

Cedartown, GA

#4 Feb 3, 2013
Cedartown Resident wrote:
I'm all for putting MISTICO on the front battle lines......
I second that motion! Just think ..she/it could use her/it ability to talk the enemy into a coma induced state. This would allow our troops HOURS to disarm them.
sammigirl

Cedartown, GA

#5 Feb 3, 2013
I feel it is not fair to the men soldiers if MISTICO is on her period. She should continue on and do the job. Two medics should be on hand to assist. One to disrobe all military gear. The second one to unload the army trunk and do the honors of inserting the heavy-heavy- super-duper-mega-asorbant -bazooka-dooka-48 special pack-tampex. It's a dirty job, but..... that's right...somebodies got to do it. haha!
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#6 Feb 3, 2013
Cedartown Resident wrote:
I'm all for putting MISTICO on the front battle lines......
how do you know i haven't already done that, hoss?

btw, what makes you think i'm a female? hide-the-salami-girl thinks so because someone else wrote it long ago....so she just makes 'assumptions' hoping i'll mkae a mistake and divulge whether i am male or female....and i probbably will make that mistake one day....but not for now, while everyone tries to 'guess, guess, guess'!
sammigirl

Cedartown, GA

#7 Feb 4, 2013
And posters think I'm crazy! Why would anybody NOT want other posters to know their sex???? Oh well...what ever gets your jollies!Oh Polk Salad! When will you learn? bahaaaaa!
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#8 Feb 4, 2013
sammigirl wrote:
I feel it is not fair to the men soldiers if MISTICO is on her period. She should continue on and do the job. Two medics should be on hand to assist. One to disrobe all military gear. The second one to unload the army trunk and do the honors of inserting the heavy-heavy- super-duper-mega-asorbant -bazooka-dooka-48 special pack-tampex. It's a dirty job, but..... that's right...somebodies got to do it. haha!
hey hide-the-salami-girl...how do you know about those super-size 'feminine' products? must be because you've been wallowed out from three baby-daddys and the other flat-backing you do...get some alum...you might be able to shrijnhk that thAng and eventually save some money after that by using a smaller product.
sammigirl

Cedartown, GA

#9 Feb 5, 2013
misticosombrero wrote:
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hey hide-the-salami-girl...how do you know about those super-size 'feminine' products? must be because you've been wallowed out from three baby-daddys and the other flat-backing you do...get some alum...you might be able to shrijnhk that thAng and eventually save some money after that by using a smaller product.
id you learn to spell BECAUSE? Ah...that's sweet! What is ALUM? Is that what you used on your thAng? Is it some kind of spanish secret? I don't have baby-daddys! It takes a GAL like you to teach these mysteries of a FLABBY PATTY like you! Sorry darling, but my thAng is AOK!
curious

Ellenwood, GA

#10 Feb 5, 2013
sammigirl wrote:
I think I can do anything a man can do except pee on a tree while standing up. Can you? Legends are hard to follow!
Have you tried to pee standing up yet? I'm sure if you put your ass against it you could hit it.
sammigirl

Cedartown, GA

#11 Feb 5, 2013
curious wrote:
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Have you tried to pee standing up yet? I'm sure if you put your ass against it you could hit it.
uhmmn....Thanks! I will give that a shot! haha
DSM Local

Marietta, GA

#12 Feb 6, 2013
The Israelis have had women in combat for decades. In fact, ALL able bodied persons (male and female) at age 18 are required to serve for 4 years in their military, and ALL are trained in combat techniques to include hand to hand combat. Their military women are some of the toughest in the world. Yes....even the dainty ones. The Russians have also had women in combat rolls for decades. There are other countries who have done the same. The USA is the one who lags behind the world in this respect. Of course, for a country that is supposed to be 'free', we have many many many taboos and restrictions here in the USA, that the majority of the world does not. Sure, our constitution gives us rights, but PEOPLE could care less....

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#13 Feb 7, 2013
DSM Local wrote:
The Israelis have had women in combat for decades. In fact, ALL able bodied persons (male and female) at age 18 are required to serve for 4 years in their military, and ALL are trained in combat techniques to include hand to hand combat. Their military women are some of the toughest in the world. Yes....even the dainty ones. The Russians have also had women in combat rolls for decades. There are other countries who have done the same. The USA is the one who lags behind the world in this respect. Of course, for a country that is supposed to be 'free', we have many many many taboos and restrictions here in the USA, that the majority of the world does not. Sure, our constitution gives us rights, but PEOPLE could care less....
Yeah, what DSM said.
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#14 Feb 7, 2013
perhaps this subect, outside of DSM's and JohnInNorthCarolina's comments above which addressed the topic in a mature and serious manner...BECAUSE it is serious) will draw more mature consideration and coments when one or more of our Brave Warrior Lady Soldiers come home in a body bag.

One only needs to observe the 'Wounded Warrior' commericials on TV featuring Trace Adkins to understand some of our Lady Soldiers have already been maimed horribly maimed, disfigured and injured by roadside bombs...I suspect some even killed already.

But to place them in the future on reconnasince(sp?), search-and-destroy, and close-quater-combat circumstances is something i diasagree with ....even if N.O.W. or other women-activist groups believe otherwise.

thanks DSM and JohnInNorthCarolina for treating this subject with the graveness and maturity it is due....unlike the other posters before you. Our Women in the Armed Services deserve better than the flippant repsonses of the others who repsonded.

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#15 Feb 7, 2013
misticosombrero wrote:
perhaps this subect, outside of DSM's and JohnInNorthCarolina's comments above which addressed the topic in a mature and serious manner...BECAUSE it is serious) will draw more mature consideration and coments when one or more of our Brave Warrior Lady Soldiers come home in a body bag.
One only needs to observe the 'Wounded Warrior' commericials on TV featuring Trace Adkins to understand some of our Lady Soldiers have already been maimed horribly maimed, disfigured and injured by roadside bombs...I suspect some even killed already.
But to place them in the future on reconnasince(sp?), search-and-destroy, and close-quater-combat circumstances is something i diasagree with ....even if N.O.W. or other women-activist groups believe otherwise.
thanks DSM and JohnInNorthCarolina for treating this subject with the graveness and maturity it is due....unlike the other posters before you. Our Women in the Armed Services deserve better than the flippant repsonses of the others who repsonded.
Yes the discussion of allowing a woman to take part on the front lines of war is about as serious a matter as can be discussed in my view. However if the woman feels she can handle the task/duties of that type assignment then why should she not be allowed to do so because she is a woman? She has my thanks and prayers for making a decision like that. They said the same thing about women being in the law enforcement field too. But that proved to be a myth. Now I am not equating the two in no way, shape or form. Nor am I dismissing the danger a woman faces in the law enforcement field line of work.

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