12 cited in Polk County alcohol sting

There are 20 comments on the May 17, 2013, Rome News story titled 12 cited in Polk County alcohol sting. In it, Rome News reports that:

Twelve Polk County stores are facing possible sanctions after an undercover operation revealed their clerks were selling alcohol to minors, according to police.

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No Issue

United States

#1 May 17, 2013
"Newsome said sworn jailers who were younger than 21 years of age were used in the sting. The underage officer would put a six-pack of beer or wine coolers on the counter and wait to see if the clerk asked for identification.
If the clerk asked, the officer would say he forgot his identification, Newsome said. The officer would leave the store if they were refused a sale."

So sworn officers are lying under oath to violate the alcohol laws and buy stuff. They are sworn in, sworn to uphold the law and then break it. Then have the audacity to arrest the other party in this illegal transaction. Hypocrisy. Two wrongs do not make a right. No wonder fewer people respect them.

I don't like liars.
tomck

Conyers, GA

#2 May 17, 2013
Ours is the only first-world country where this is a job for the police. Yawn.
huh

Cedartown, GA

#3 May 17, 2013
Ever hear of undercover cops?
haha

Decatur, GA

#4 May 18, 2013
Jailers are not police they work in the jail so they are not sworn in to up hold the law they dnt have any arrest powers that would be police or a deputy
tomck

Conyers, GA

#5 May 18, 2013
haha wrote:
Jailers are not police they work in the jail so they are not sworn in to up hold the law they dnt have any arrest powers that would be police or a deputy
Thank god. I know several of our jailers and I wouldn't give them the keys to a bicycle lock.
Shadow

Buford, GA

#6 May 18, 2013
I take issue with "sting" operations such as this. Often, the police will send someone in that looks much older than 20 years old and the clerk realistically thinks they are of legal age. How about sending an obvious teenager in the store and see if they can buy alcohol.

Also, I think you would want to see a pattern of sales, such as multiple purchases on different days and with different clerks.

Finally, sad to see that Polk has gone the way of many areas in that all you see running these convenience stores seem to be Indians or Pakistanis. I guess real Americans cannot get the government handouts.....
No Issue

United States

#7 May 18, 2013
haha wrote:
Jailers are not police they work in the jail so they are not sworn in to up hold the law they dnt have any arrest powers that would be police or a deputy
WRONG. READ the "sworn jailers".
"Newsome said sworn jailers who were younger than 21 years of age were used in the sting."
No Issue

United States

#8 May 18, 2013
Also using people under 21 to do the dirty work is shameful.
Would these LEOs also send a minor in to a house of ill repute to "buy and try"?
I have no respect for this type of LE.
If they cannot put forth the effort to catch real sales to real minor aged citizens then they should not be in LE.
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#9 May 18, 2013
isn't this entrapment?
ex cop

Hollywood, FL

#10 May 18, 2013
misticosombrero wrote:
isn't this entrapment?
No it is not. If s LEO "temps" a potential violater it is not. What causes entrapment is when LEO "forces" you to break a law. An example would be going to a place where people are drinking and MAKING them disperse and have roadblocks set up for DUI.
ex cop

Hollywood, FL

#11 May 18, 2013
No Issue wrote:
"Newsome said sworn jailers who were younger than 21 years of age were used in the sting. The underage officer would put a six-pack of beer or wine coolers on the counter and wait to see if the clerk asked for identification.
If the clerk asked, the officer would say he forgot his identification, Newsome said. The officer would leave the store if they were refused a sale."

So sworn officers are lying under oath to violate the alcohol laws and buy stuff. They are sworn in, sworn to uphold the law and then break it. Then have the audacity to arrest the other party in this illegal transaction. Hypocrisy. Two wrongs do not make a right. No wonder fewer people respect them.

I don't like liars.
Sorry, but no law is broken by attempting to buy alcohol. The broken law is the actual "selling". And BTW, what lie are they telling? It is the store's responsibility to ensure buyers are 21 or older. Lets say a non LEO minor goes in to buy and says "I am 23". If they sell, are they excused because the kid lied? No.
parent

Rome, GA

#12 May 18, 2013
I'm thinking that this sting is what happens when you have so many kids getting arrested for underage drinking and minors getting DUIs.

Twelve is twelve too many IMO and shows that the problem is prevalent.
NOT SO

Jacksonville, FL

#13 May 18, 2013
No Issue wrote:
Also using people under 21 to do the dirty work is shameful.
Would these LEOs also send a minor in to a house of ill repute to "buy and try"?
I have no respect for this type of LE.
If they cannot put forth the effort to catch real sales to real minor aged citizens then they should not be in LE.
How stupid , if they aren't under 21 there is no law broken. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.Don't matter how old you look , just check the ID.
Diane

Marietta, GA

#14 May 18, 2013
No Issue wrote:
.......If they cannot put forth the effort to catch real sales to real minor aged citizens then they should not be in LE.
Seriously? Were the jailers not "real" minors? Why does it matter if it was jailers or your neighbor who is a minor? If they used someone who is of age and the sale took place, no law is broken. Besides.... jailers are not LE.
No Issue

United States

#15 May 19, 2013
ex cop wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but no law is broken by attempting to buy alcohol. The broken law is the actual "selling". And BTW, what lie are they telling? It is the store's responsibility to ensure buyers are 21 or older. Lets say a non LEO minor goes in to buy and says "I am 23". If they sell, are they excused because the kid lied? No.
Pathetic attempt to skirt ethics doctrines and "clean hands" doctrines. Again, if they cannot put forth the effort to catch real sales to real minor aged citizens, at large, then they should not be in LE.

You say: "It is the store's responsibility to ensure buyers are 21 or older."

Well it is also LE's responsibility to catch them selling to real minor aged citizens, at large. It is not the responsibility of LE to create "situations". If it was then LE would have a right to set up situations where people would be enticed to do acts of violence so that LE could arrest them. I'm sure that there are novice writers who could create a situation where LE could conceivably cause someone to murder someone just so that they could arrest them for murder.

LE should always and foremost be above reproach. To break a law to catch someone breaking the law is no justification for LE to brak the law in the first place.
Cedartown Resident

United States

#16 May 19, 2013
The legal drinking age should be 18 anyway.....
parent

Rome, GA

#17 May 19, 2013
Underage drinking is a REAL problem and to suggest that our police officers have the time to sit and watch stores waiting for a minor to successfully purchase alcohol is absolutely stupid. I would have a problem with sending in minors that don't work for the county, but if these are LE officers, there is no problem. It's been done for decades and like someone said, it's the same as using undercover cops.

How would you feel if you lost someone you love because some kid got drunk thanks to one of these irresponsible store clerks and then drives? I agree the age should be 18 so go to your lawmakers and ask for the age to be raised if you feel so strongly about it but take your chances if you think it's okay to furnish alcohol to minors.
hummm1

Cedartown, GA

#18 May 19, 2013
Right.
tomck

Conyers, GA

#19 May 19, 2013
No Issue wrote:
<quoted text>Pathetic attempt to skirt ethics doctrines and "clean hands" doctrines. Again, if they cannot put forth the effort to catch real sales to real minor aged citizens, at large, then they should not be in LE.

You say: "It is the store's responsibility to ensure buyers are 21 or older."

Well it is also LE's responsibility to catch them selling to real minor aged citizens, at large. It is not the responsibility of LE to create "situations". If it was then LE would have a right to set up situations where people would be enticed to do acts of violence so that LE could arrest them. I'm sure that there are novice writers who could create a situation where LE could conceivably cause someone to murder someone just so that they could arrest them for murder.

LE should always and foremost be above reproach. To break a law to catch someone breaking the law is no justification for LE to brak the law in the first place.
Hear hear. You have made the best point I've heard yet.
LEO

Ocala, FL

#20 May 19, 2013
The bottom line is if you abide by the law you have nothing to worry about, but if you break it we will catch you.
But lets always blame it on LE when we are busted and have nothing else to say or another person to blame it own.
Why don't you just take your medicine and pay the fines? And not sell to minors anymore?
CHEW ON THAT MAGGOTS..

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