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“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#267 Mar 5, 2013
DOUG wrote:
<quoted text> On march 30 2013, you told Fred, "And discrimination is against the law," regarding an all female obgyn clinic. Does that help refresh your recollection ?
Discrimination is illegal. Put out an ad stating that you will only hire just women. Believe me, someone will take that to court. That being said, if that clinic hires only the most qualified and they happen to be women the so be it.
CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#268 Mar 6, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>Discrimination is illegal. Put out an ad stating that you will only hire just women. Believe me, someone will take that to court. That being said, if that clinic hires only the most qualified and they happen to be women the so be it.
Female obgyn's earn higher salaries then male obgyn's because they bring in more clients. This can be seen with Dr. David Garfield who was terminated in 1998 from Morristown obgyn assoc for not bringing in "enough clients." Woman don't want to see men and their privacy as patients has to be respected. Garfinkel took legal action against the clinic which has been UNSUCCESSFUL. A business can legally discriminate Against an applicants gender if it's a bona fide occupational qualification, B.F.O.Q., the courts have ruled. Dr. Garfinkel never got his Job back with Morristown obgyn assoc and NEVER won a lawsuit against them. I would say that this case demonstrates a private obgyn clinic etc can higher who they want.
DOUG

Bedford, MA

#269 Mar 6, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>Discrimination is illegal. Put out an ad stating that you will only hire just women. Believe me, someone will take that to court. That being said, if that clinic hires only the most qualified and they happen to be women the so be it.
Courts have already held that hospitals are entitled to employ only female nurses in their labor and delivery units (see EEOC V MERCY HEALTH CTR., NO, CIV-80-1374-w,1982 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 12256, at *11-*13 (W.D. Okla Feb 02 1982) Holding that GENDER - BASED DISCRIMINATION against male labor and delivery nurses was JUSTIFIED because of the expectant mothers PERSONAL PRIVACY interest.
DOUG

Bedford, MA

#270 Mar 6, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>Discrimination is illegal. Put out an ad stating that you will only hire just women. Believe me, someone will take that to court. That being said, if that clinic hires only the most qualified and they happen to be women the so be it.
"Discrimination is illegal." Not always, as you have just read. Did you learn anything?
DOUG

Bedford, MA

#271 Mar 6, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>Discrimination is illegal. Put out an ad stating that you will only hire just women. Believe me, someone will take that to court. That being said, if that clinic hires only the most qualified and they happen to be women the so be it.
Clinics can also hold doctors to productivity standard which may be difficul for male doctors in an era where many woman prefer to see a female obgyn.
DOUG

Bedford, MA

#272 Mar 6, 2013
In another case, U.S. District judge Marrero wrote. " Female patients may have a legitimate privacy interest in seeking to have female doctors perform their gynecological examinations."
DOUG

United States

#273 Mar 6, 2013
DOUG wrote:
<quoted text> Courts have already held that hospitals are entitled to employ only female nurses in their labor and delivery units (see EEOC V MERCY HEALTH CTR., NO, CIV-80-1374-w,1982 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 12256, at *11-*13 (W.D. Okla Feb 02 1982) Holding that GENDER - BASED DISCRIMINATION against male labor and delivery nurses was JUSTIFIED because of the expectant mothers PERSONAL PRIVACY interest.
The same court also used past case law where female washroom attendants where hired over males to attend to female washrooms. Common sense, unfortunately not all that common

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#274 Mar 6, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text> Female obgyn's earn higher salaries then male obgyn's because they bring in more clients.
I can see how that would be true.

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#275 Mar 6, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text> A business can legally discriminate Against an applicants gender if it's a bona fide occupational qualification,
"Bona Fide" being the key word. You cannot just say we are hiring all women or all men just because we can.

BTW, why did you change your name to Chris?

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#276 Mar 6, 2013
DOUG wrote:
<quoted text> Re read your statement from 03/30/13 if you must dummy.
Speaking of a "dummy", 03/30/13 is over three weeks away, so unless you are fortune teller, look in the mirror to see a real dumbass.
CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#277 Mar 7, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>Speaking of a "dummy", 03/30/13 is over three weeks away, so unless you are fortune teller, look in the mirror to see a real dumbass.
Yeah use some common sense, 03/30/12, you really got me on that one. Doug or chris isn't my real name. Is ms04 your real name ?
CHRIS

Earlville, NY

#278 Mar 7, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>"Bona Fide" being the key word. You cannot just say we are hiring all women or all men just because we can.
BTW, why did you change your name to Chris?
They may not say it that way, but at the end of the day it is an all woman doctor clinic, so same same. They advertise as, doctor needed at all woman's clinic. The male doctors applications get thrown into the trash.
CHRIS

Earlville, NY

#279 Mar 7, 2013
There are all woman doctors clinics popping up every where these days

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#280 Mar 7, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text> Doug or chris isn't my real name. Is ms04 your real name ?
Nope, but I only use MSO4 and do not keep changing it like you seem to be doing.

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#281 Mar 7, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text> They may not say it that way, but at the end of the day it is an all woman doctor clinic, so same same. They advertise as, doctor needed at all woman's clinic. The male doctors applications get thrown into the trash.
As an American you should be disgusted with anyone that discriminates. Guess you condone such practices.

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#282 Mar 7, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
There are all woman doctors clinics popping up every where these days
But not in Rome. Sorry about you bad luck.

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#283 Mar 7, 2013
your
CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#284 Mar 7, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>As an American you should be disgusted with anyone that discriminates. Guess you condone such practices.
It's American courts which have made the rulings. So, NO.
CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#285 Mar 7, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, but I only use MSO4 and do not keep changing it like you seem to be doing.
And your point ?????
CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#286 Mar 7, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>But not in Rome. Sorry about you bad luck.
That wasn't my point. You said it wasnt lawful, I said it was. I was correct, you were WRONG. Do you really want to discuss the law with me?

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