Rick Godwin's statement

Nov 29, 2007 Read more: MySA.com 61

“Give honor to whom honor is due.”

Pastor Rick Godwin gave this statement from the pulpit during the weekend of Nov. via MySA.com

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Matilda

United States

#1 Mar 17, 2008
This story is still growing....you can read the blogs and how he put his oldest daughter in an institution, then orphanage because his second wife did not want her. Then he threw his mother, father, brother away and banned his father from the church. His wife's family don't speak to her either.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/feedbac...
BullS

O Fallon, MO

#2 Apr 21, 2008
Dont believe the hype, Look at what her mother was a drug addict, she was the one that abandon her, there is so much lying going on in good ole San Antonio.
Matilda

United States

#3 Apr 25, 2008
There is no hype, the stories and evidence speak for themselves. His first wife died in an auto accident in 1976 while Rick Godwin was in South Carolina w/ Shannon. This occured AFTER he unbiblicaly divorced his wife.

He then met his 17 yr old student in the youth group where he taught, and she (Cindy Godwin) did not want Shannon. Rick and Cindy Godwin put 8 yr old Shannon in an institution and when they wouldn't keep her because she wasn't crazy, they put her in an orphanage, took Shannon's trust money and went to Hawaii.

Shannon's maternal grandparents finally were able to get her out of the orphanage and adopt her if Rick and Cindy promised not to press charges on Godwin for stealing her trust.

Now, he's still stealing tithe money that was meant for missions according to the documents given at

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/feedbac...

Now, after buying two new Mercedes, he's begging for money for the new $36 million building.

This church has turned into a big business money scheme.
Amazing Lies

San Antonio, TX

#4 May 2, 2008
would this be the same Shannon who was in prison for Fraud and put her own child up for adoption.
Shannon

AOL

#5 May 9, 2008
Like father like daughter.. no prison for either of us though! He was arrested in Columbia, S.C. IN 1971 AND ALSO GAVE UP A CHILD for adoption... hmmm they say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree!
Shannon

AOL

#6 May 9, 2008
Funny the mother figure died.. but has no arrest logs/ records.... but Dad and I do..
Amazing Truth

San Antonio, TX

#7 May 9, 2008
"Her mother was a drug addict?" Wow...how desperate is that? You're going to attack a dead woman? and a motherless child, thrown away at the hands of Rick and Cindy Godwin? That's low down.....some kind of Christian behavior there!!

Rick Godwin has a record for going to jail on felony kidnapping in South Carolina!

Shall I go on?

So she couldn't support her child and let her sister adopt him.....would you have rather her have had an abortion? Seems to me she did the loving thing....at least she gave him to family!
Randy

United States

#8 May 13, 2008
I knew his first wife, she never used drugs. She actually died before the drug culture was born.
Amazing Truth

San Antonio, TX

#9 May 22, 2008
Here's more to the story on Rick Godwin, seems he's being sued for slander by a former member.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/religion/
stories/MYSA.052208.1B.EaglesN est.37bcf1d.html
Amazing Truth

San Antonio, TX

#10 May 22, 2008
Here's more to the story on Rick Godwin, seems he's being sued for slander by a former member.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/religion/sto... est.37bcf1d.html
Jock

San Antonio, TX

#11 May 29, 2008
Finally the truth is revealed by Steven
"steven"....(not convinced yet)
******I will put my answers in between these so you can see my response. I am really not worried about your being convinced, as I see you hide behind a famous indian name.*******
I find it quite odd that you would point out my and purgatory's imperfections in this blog, but yet you have no mention of the jocks/patrick/donate/personal/ etc. personal attacks, foul language, ad nauseam.
It is YOUR above mentioned church representative that has disgraced the name of God and caused many of these posts to be removed. But it is typical of Eagle's Nest/SUMMIT to take no responsibility or accountability, so I am not surprised.
*****I will not respond to JOCK as he is not a representative of anything. Again, you have been less than civil, I don't know his problem. For all I know, JOCK is you trying to defame a church.*****
If there is proof to the contrary of any of this, then why hasn't he shown it? If changes were made since 2005, why in the first half of 2007 did Godwin spend $143,000 of the churches money for his own personl gain, including charterd jets? That doesn't sound like change to me.
*****How do you know what has been shown? How do you know what changes have been made? You don't and that is key in proving your facts. The great thing is that it doesn't have to be proven to you, but can be proven. Again, be very careful what you perceive as fact. It can be proven wrong and you are responsible for what you post as fact*****
Jock

San Antonio, TX

#12 May 29, 2008
I'm sure by now Godwin has paid back the church since he was using tax free money for his own personal purposes. Hello Senator Grassley and IRS!! But I doubt the money was paid back until he got his hand caught in the cookie jar.
*****The records clearly show reimbursement and checks with the appropriate ability to see that they were done each month and not at one time. Good try, but your thoughts can be proven as wrong.*****
Please Steven, don't tell me that you believe that it is godly to be rich too, and a curse to be poor. And please don't twist my words to say it is a sin to be rich, I did not say that. But it is a sin to take money that was meant for the poor and use it for your own greed. Church was never meant to be the "big business" it has become today. Show me where Jesus did any of this! And please show us where Jesus said we have to tithe.
****Ah the issue of giving. Some believe in tithing others giving. It is very clear that Jesus expects us to give and to do so cheerfully. It is a great excuse to not give, and your bringing this up let's me know who you are and who you are dealing with. I give, God blesses, that is all I care about. The scriptures are full of Jesus sharing that Giving is a command. Full of verses where God's servants deserve to live well.
Jock

San Antonio, TX

#13 May 29, 2008
You may be jealous or looking for reasons why you don't give. And that is up to you. I give and God blesses, so I will continue. If it blesses a man who continues to share God's mercy and Grace, then praise God.********
"WHY WASN'T THE OTHER SIDE TOLD?" Did you really ask that? How many times did Abe try to get an interview with Godwin and the others? He refused because there is no excuse...and Godwin doesn't want to answer the very pertinent questions at hand.
****Journalism 101: When a reporter refuses to let you know what a story is about when calling for an interview, WARNING! And when said journalist reports a story with half the story, said journalist does not earn the right to the story. If the Journalist is not up front in the beginning there is a reason. And, in the past few months we have seen how this paper does what it wants with lies, then they have no right to the story. The press is not all knowing and does not have the right to demand anything.*****
This blog may not further the Kingdom of God, but at least people can see and read the truth and not be cheated, conned and swindled out of their hard earned money.
****You answered my question. Why would you care about it if it doesn't further the Kingdom of God? You are stating rumors as facts.******
Jock

San Antonio, TX

#14 May 29, 2008
Open the books Steven...be honest...let people make up their own mind if they want the pastor dipping in the church coffers. Who knows...maybe you'll be surprised, they may want their pastor to look and act and live and drive like a rock star.
If Godwin is so innocent, then why hasn't he gotten a real board, and become accountable like all other non profits?
****Again, you know nothing of any changes and the board is a real board. Again, facts please not what you think you know*****
And about that carousel, since they are selling seats, and all the different ways to contribute money to the building fund, I'm certain the carousel is in there some where.
****Again. You are certain, but wrong. Please state facts not your opinion.*****
I have no doubt that if there were any lies here, or in the story, Rick Godwin would have had his endless army of expensive lawyers jump on it and the Express News would have been put out of business. And/Or the EN would have been made to retract the story....hasn't happened in 5 months Steven....wake up!
***I am awake, but thanks for being concerned. How do you know what is being jumped on? More importantly, welcome to the real World. Most stories with lies go unpunished. Again, since you don't know what is going on. Hold tight. By posting the above statement, I see you know very little about journalism.*****
Jock

San Antonio, TX

#15 May 29, 2008
Why does he have private investigators involved in all this? Why did the church need two new Mercedes? Why the Godwin Family Trust? Why the increase in credit? Why his and Cindy's exorbitant salaries? Why the LBJ lake house, etc?
All tax free? why did he turn on Larry, Sam, Mark, Jim, Darna, his brothers, mother, father?
****My family has a trust, and the point is? Any increase in loans was discussed at multiple leader/worker meetings. The salaries you have discussed on this board are slander. They are wrong, and can be proven wrong. The more you post them, the more it shows me you have no idea and are listening to false stories. It became clear to me who you are listening to when you mentioned his Father, Mother and Brothers. Since I have personally met his Father and Half-brother at the church and since I know that he is contact with them on a regular basis, that would be a lie. Since you posted that his mother lives here, when in fact she does not, I knew where your source came from. Since I know that he speaks with his family more than you realize, again it is a lie that can be proven. It is funny again that by the list of names, I know your sources. As for the people you mentioned, ask them because I know too much and refuse to share in your gossip. The comment on private investigators, if this is true, I can understand if people lie about you why WOULDN'T you have them? The only people who fear a P.I. are those who have something to hide.*****
Jock

San Antonio, TX

#16 May 29, 2008
And the most telling and shameful question of all....why did he allow cindy to abuse and throw away his fist daughter, Shannon?
****Talk about the biggest slander of all. This one you need to be careful of. Do you know Shannon? Or do you think you know Shannon? Beware of believing without proof. It is sad and unbiblical and when proven wrong, illegal.*****
Will you, can you, answer any of these questions? Aren't we supposed to hold the bible as our standard? Isn't a preacher, a so-called man of God supposed to be held to a higher standard?
*****There are answers. The bible is our standard, yet you chose to ignore scriptures about lies, gossip, slander, false accusations, etc. If you believe the bible is your standard, then it should be the whole bible. Not just the parts you like.******
So Rick has built a monument to himself.... but what's the point if there is no Jesus anywhere to be found?
****Jesus is found everyday at the church. Again, your ability to judge the work of God is worrisome and I pray for you.*****
Jock

San Antonio, TX

#17 May 29, 2008
P.S. You have no clue what I know, so don't even go there!
****I can tell by your posts you don't know much. And what you think you know is proof that God has mercy and grace. Because what you have posted is so wrong and slanderous, God's mercy to you. I want to give you a scenario and I want you to think on it and pray hard.
What if: There was a plan from the beginning and you find out later that all you have been told is a lie. What if you are wrong and have shared all this information and swayed people away from learning about a true loving God? What if? The story is much more than you think you know. And there are many people you have listened to who should thank God everyday that He is merciful. The truth will be known, and when it is, will you ask forgivness?
ANON

San Antonio, TX

#18 May 29, 2008
Please note that Jim Yostrum is anything but a "man of God". Jim had meetings with multiple staff members at the church Rick Godwin pastors and made known his plans. He informed them with multiple comments about his past and how he was an expert at getting Pastors he didn't like out of churches. He even offered to get rid of Rick and have he and a couple of other staff members run the church. He commented that if he didn't get his way he was going to the media. Other comments included his friend at the paper Abe Levy and how he had friends who could run the church and he had contacted them.

When Jim Yostrum was asked if he had taken any of his concerns to the church officials he said NO he had not. When he was confronted by one staff member about these comments he ran. Now his story has changed. If this is not believed, ask Jim Yostrum to take a lie detector test. He knows he would fail it. Jim spent his 7 weeks at the church working out this plan. Not believed? As him to take the test. He will fail.

When Jim didn't get what he wanted and the articles didn't get Rick out of the church He and Larry Nail went after Shannon. They even crafted the "letter" that she sent out. When she sent it too soon, Larry became very upset and said very unpleasant things about her.
ANON

San Antonio, TX

#19 May 29, 2008
Shannon was Jail for fraud. And she put her own kid up for adoption.
ANON

San Antonio, TX

#20 May 29, 2008
The truth is no doubt what I am after. It is a matter of trying to figure out this story and is the witness credible. The story is so out of reality that it is not just believing the word of one person. The proof is what is missing and having investigated and found out from multiple sources that the email posted was not written by Shannon but a man who also told multiple witnesses that Shannon sent it to soon and he didn't get the impact he wanted and hearing from multiple sources that he referred to Shannon as a child in a 40 year olds body, it all seems a bit odd and contrived. Where is the proof and why is the story just now being told 40 years later.

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