NRA's Gun Fight Fantasies

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Sandy

Fulton, MO

#1 Jan 12, 2013
The Fort Hood shooting was a shooting that took place on November 5, 2009 at Fort Hood, the most populous U.S. military installation in the world, located just outside Killeen, Texas.In the course of the shooting, a single gunman killed 13 people and wounded 29 others. It is the worst shooting ever to take place on an American military base.

What I find ironic about the CONservative argument for no gun regulation is they claim more armed people will greatly reduce violent crime. Now if I was a common idiot that would make sense but the fact is the Fort Hood massacre took place on a military base surrounded by armed people that were trained to use GUNS! Yet he killed 13 and wounded 29.

According to pretrial testimony, Hasan entered the Guns Galore store in Killeen on July 31, 2009, and purchased the FN Five-seven semi-automatic pistol that he was to use in the attack at Fort Hood. According to Army Specialist William Gilbert, a regular customer at the store, Hasan entered the store and asked for "the most technologically advanced weapon on the market and the one with the highest standard magazine capacity. Hasan was allegedly asked how he intended to use the weapon, but said that he wanted the most advanced handgun with the largest magazine capacity. The three people with Hasan—Gilbert, the store manager, and an employee—all agreed upon the FN Five-seven pistol. Gilbert owned one of the pistols and spent an hour describing its operation and effects to Hasan.
When the conversation ended, Hasan left the store, saying he needed to research the weapon. He returned to purchase the gun the next day, and visited the store on a weekly basis to buy extra magazines, along with hundreds of rounds of 5.7×28mm SS192 and SS197SR ammunition. In the weeks prior to the attack, Hasan visited an outdoor shooting range in Florence, where he allegedly became adept at hitting silhouette targets at distances of up to 100 yards.

So much for the armed guard theory. So what is the answer? Hell if I know,but the sad truth is we will always have to deal with terrorist,the mentally ill,gang violence and serial killers that are well armed in part by the unregulated system we have now.

Looks like we will have to send our children to school in flak jackets thanks to the almighty 2nd amendment that apparently is more important to conservative extremist than human life.

Since: Jan 10

Lake Spring, MO

#2 Jan 12, 2013
Sandy. You don't know what you're talking about.

“I'm right”

Since: Oct 12

Rolla, MO

#5 Jan 12, 2013
He was a member of the military and clearly could have gained access to a firearm with or without the Second Amendment. So the Second Amendment is completely irrelevant to this case. The Fort Hood shooting was a result of the liberal touchy felliness.

"There were definitely clear indications that Hasan's loyalties were not with America," Lt. Col. Val Finnell, Hasan's classmate at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda.
"There were all sorts of ... comments made throughout the year that made me question his loyalty to the United States, but nothing was done," said Finnell, who recalled one class during which Hasan gave a presentation justifying homicide bombings.
"The issue here is that there's a political correctness climate in the military. They don't want to say anything because it would be considered questioning somebody's religious belief, or they're afraid of an equal opportunity lawsuit.
"I want to be clear that this wasn't about anyone questioning his religious views. It is different when you are a civilian than when you are a military officer," said Finnell, who is a physician at the Los Angeles Air Force Base.
"When you are in the military and you start making comments that are seditious, when you say you believe something other than your oath of office — someone needed to say why is this guy saying this stuff.
"He was a lightning rod. He made his views known and he was very vocal, he had extremely radical jihadist views," Finnell said. "When you're a military officer you take an oath to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.
"They should've confronted him — our professors, officers — but they were too concerned about being politically correct."
Simon Jester

Springfield, MO

#6 Jan 13, 2013
Sandy wrote:
The Fort Hood shooting was a shooting that took place on November 5, 2009 at Fort Hood, the most populous U.S. military installation in the world, located just outside Killeen, Texas.In the course of the shooting, a single gunman killed 13 people and wounded 29 others. It is the worst shooting ever to take place on an American military base.
What I find ironic about the CONservative argument for no gun regulation is they claim more armed people will greatly reduce violent crime. Now if I was a common idiot that would make sense but the fact is the Fort Hood massacre took place on a military base surrounded by armed people that were trained to use GUNS! Yet he killed 13 and wounded 29.
According to pretrial testimony, Hasan entered the Guns Galore store in Killeen on July 31, 2009, and purchased the FN Five-seven semi-automatic pistol that he was to use in the attack at Fort Hood. According to Army Specialist William Gilbert, a regular customer at the store, Hasan entered the store and asked for "the most technologically advanced weapon on the market and the one with the highest standard magazine capacity. Hasan was allegedly asked how he intended to use the weapon, but said that he wanted the most advanced handgun with the largest magazine capacity. The three people with Hasan—Gilbert, the store manager, and an employee—all agreed upon the FN Five-seven pistol. Gilbert owned one of the pistols and spent an hour describing its operation and effects to Hasan.
When the conversation ended, Hasan left the store, saying he needed to research the weapon. He returned to purchase the gun the next day, and visited the store on a weekly basis to buy extra magazines, along with hundreds of rounds of 5.7×28mm SS192 and SS197SR ammunition. In the weeks prior to the attack, Hasan visited an outdoor shooting range in Florence, where he allegedly became adept at hitting silhouette targets at distances of up to 100 yards.
So much for the armed guard theory. So what is the answer? Hell if I know,but the sad truth is we will always have to deal with terrorist,the mentally ill,gang violence and serial killers that are well armed in part by the unregulated system we have now.
Looks like we will have to send our children to school in flak jackets thanks to the almighty 2nd amendment that apparently is more important to conservative extremist than human life.
It's clear you're not a common idiot......You're clearly an uncommon and exceptional idiot.....By the way, how you managed to include 'serial killers' who's use of guns is pretty rare, I have no idiot.....That takes industrial grade stupid.

But to deal with your disjointed and rambling diatribe.......I can sum it up very simply......If someone showed up your house and started trying to kick in your door, would you

1) Call someone to show up and start trying to conduct a conflict resolution session

2) Call your congressman and try to get them to ban home invasions

3) Called the police (because they are armed and trained to deal with violent people)

If you say 3, you have just defeated your OWN simple-jack argument by ADMITTING that you think the most effective way to deal with violence is call someone with a gun to show up and deal with them.

By the way, the minor conclusion that you had about how MORE guns make things worse......Homicide rates in America are at 50 year lows, despite MORE guns, MORE CCW carriers.......Facts don't suit you well do they.
Simon Jester

Springfield, MO

#7 Jan 13, 2013
Oh, by the way, dumbass......Soldiers don't walk around army bases armed.....You've been watching too much TV. Hassan's victims were unarmed. Getting talking points from Mother Jones/HuffingtonPuffington Post just makes you look dumber than you already are.
DomariNolo

United States

#8 Jan 13, 2013
First off, as others have said.. Only a TV commando would think military bases are full of people carrying guns. Weapons on post are only allowed to be locked away in armories, the only guns on the street are carried by police and very limited security personnel. Nearly every mass shooting that has occurred in America took place in a location which banned civilians from carrying guns. The fallacy in believing that banning guns will make us safer is that there has not been a single gun law that reduced crime, and even if they do pass any bans, I suppose they will be just as effective as the war on drugs.. Aka... Not at all. Criminals don't follow laws. Instead of banning guns which are just tools, why don't they ban murder which is an action? Oh wait, they already banned murder. And once again, criminals don't obey laws.
DomariNolo

United States

#9 Jan 13, 2013
Also, the "high capacity mag ban" argument is entirely invalid. Besides the fact that 30 rounds is a standard capacity magazine, it only takes one second to swap out magazines. In a confrontation with another armed individual, one second matters. In the case of a lone gunman shooting up unarmed victims, one second isn't going to give anybody time to rush a shooter. I want every bit as much firepower as some thug can get his hand on, and legal or not the criminals will get whatever they want.
BSRM

Rolla, MO

#10 Jan 13, 2013
Sandy is another fine example of an uneducated individual discussing a topic which they know nothing about.

As a matter of fact everything sandy posted came directly off of Wikipedia. Republican or democrat, pro or anti gun, a quick browse for yourself and laugh at another example of a fine sheep specimen named sandy. The government will soon be here to present sandy with a blue ribbon for best in show.
Killa the Constipated

Salem, MO

#12 Jan 13, 2013
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
He was a member of the military and clearly could have gained access to a firearm with or without the Second Amendment. So the Second Amendment is completely irrelevant to this case. The Fort Hood shooting was a result of the liberal touchy felliness.
"There were definitely clear indications that Hasan's loyalties were not with America," Lt. Col. Val Finnell, Hasan's classmate at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in
Bethesda.
"There were all sorts of ... comments made throughout the year that made me question his loyalty to the United States, but nothing was done," said Finnell, who recalled one class during which Hasan gave a presentation justifying
homicide bombings.
"The issue here is that there's a political correctness climate in the military. They don't want to say anything because it would be considered questioning somebody's religious belief, or they're afraid of an equal opportunity lawsuit.
"I want to be clear that this wasn't about anyone questioning his religious views. It is different when you are a civilian than when you are a military officer," said Finnell, who is a physician
at the Los Angeles Air Force Base.
"When you are in the military and you start making comments that are seditious, when you say you believe something other than your oath of office — someone needed to say why is this guy saying this stuff.
"He was a lightning rod. He made his views known and he was very vocal, he had extremely radical jihadist views," Finnell said. "When you're a military officer you take an oath to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.
"They should've confronted him — our professors, officers — but they were too concerned about being politically correct."
And he passed the background check, too bad he was not a suspicious character.

That gun shop would sell to anyone with cash or a credit card and the NRA supports them in doing so.

“I'm right”

Since: Oct 12

Rolla, MO

#13 Jan 13, 2013
Killa the Constipated wrote:
<quoted text>And he passed the background check, too bad he was not a suspicious character.

That gun shop would sell to anyone with cash or a credit card and the NRA supports them in doing so.
He wouldn't pass a conservative background check. Only a liberal,'compassionate' check where no one fails, lest we hurt their feelings.
Sandy

Fulton, MO

#15 Jan 14, 2013
Thank God she didn't have a kid with her packing a cap gun...
http://youtu.be/19gxfuXUCGQ
Simon Jester

Springfield, MO

#16 Jan 15, 2013
Sandy wrote:
Thank God she didn't have a kid with her packing a cap gun...
http://youtu.be/19gxfuXUCGQ
The problem with folks like yourself is that you have practically no understanding of how the world actually works, but plenty of unfounded theories about how you THINK it works.....Your imaginations become more powerful than reality. You 'imagine' how incompetent you yourself would be with a gun and project your own inadequecies and feelings of incompetence on to others.

So, you imagine yourself doing what the folks in this video did.....Not realizing how ridiculous your theory is, and suddenly it becomes reality.......But the vast majority of your neighbors are nowhere near as incompetent as you imagine yourself.
Simon Jester

Springfield, MO

#17 Jan 15, 2013
But since you like videos, here's one from a fellow gun control afficionado.

Simon Jester

Springfield, MO

#18 Jan 15, 2013
xbox

Rolla, MO

#19 Jan 15, 2013
Simon Jester wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =zPwZeWOZ8JUXX
3 posts in a row for Simple Simon. That's full-on retard.
Simon Jester

Springfield, MO

#20 Jan 15, 2013
xbox wrote:
<quoted text>
3 posts in a row for Simple Simon. That's full-on retard.
Says the guy who can barely form sentences.....I'm calling the group home and telling them to send you to bed.
xbox

Rolla, MO

#21 Jan 15, 2013
Simon Jester wrote:
<quoted text> Says the guy who can barely form sentences.....I'm calling the group home and telling them to send you to bed.
If you yell they can hear you at the office. They will probably think you peed the bed again.
Simon Jester

Springfield, MO

#22 Jan 15, 2013
Only time I ever peed the bed as an adult was when me and your mother were both drunk and in bed together......She was doing this thing with her tongue that tickled, and I told her to stop.....Wasn't my fault. The two guys waiting outside for their turn were mad, let me tell you.
xbox

Rolla, MO

#23 Jan 15, 2013
Simon Jester wrote:
Only time I ever peed the bed as an adult was when me and your mother were both drunk and in bed together......She was doing this thing with her tongue that tickled, and I told her to stop.....Wasn't my fault. The two guys waiting outside for their turn were mad, let me tell you.
We all know that was killa, your tranny girlfriend.
Simon Jester

Springfield, MO

#24 Jan 15, 2013
You mean one of the guys waiting outside? I don't know, I never caught their names.....One of them was wearing a leather mask, so I guess it could have been......Your mom is a freak!

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