Entitlements or not

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Old time democrat

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Mar 22, 2013
 
Why is Social Security and Medicare considered an entitlement?
I am 56 and they call Social Security and Medicare an entitlement even though most of us have been paying for it all our working lives and now when its time for us to collect, the government is running out of money. And even though the government borrowed from it don't they still owe it? I paid my hard earned cash into it. It totaled around 15% of my income before taxes. Don't I deserve it back? Why do they call it an entitlement ?
yammerstein

Rolla, MO

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Mar 22, 2013
 
Republicans use this term so everybody will think you are a black-skinned lowlife person who is a leech on the rest of society.

The Democrat say safety net to describe the same programs.
Killa the Constipated

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Mar 23, 2013
 

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Farmers are subsidized, students, truckers, real estate brokers all are subsidized all are entitlements. And that's just the little ones.
yammerstein

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Mar 23, 2013
 
bloodfart wrote:
It is an entitlement program. The facts show that even tho you paid into these programs, you will actually use more than you paid into these programs.
Look at how many people are on social welfare programs at this time. Food stamps are a bug problem.
Corporate welfare is a more-expensive problem.
dooley

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Mar 23, 2013
 
yes
Retiree

Holts Summit, MO

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Mar 23, 2013
 
I paid into social security since age 15.... I am now 67. I paid for my social security benefit and EARNED it now that I am of age. It's not an entitlement (which infers free to everyone); it is a pension to which I contributed for 52 years.
Killa the Compassionate

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Mar 23, 2013
 
Retiree wrote:
I paid into social security since age 15.... I am now 67. I paid for my social security benefit and EARNED it now that I am of age. It's not an entitlement (which infers free to everyone); it is a pension to which I contributed for 52 years.
You are right, but if some have their way we will have to work until we are 75 or die.
Killa the Constipated

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Mar 23, 2013
 
bloodfart wrote:
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Truckers are not subsidized. I dont think you know what you are talking about. I dont think farmers should be. Hell the brains in DC pay farmers not to farm? Thats smart.
Trucker are subsidized by the gap between fuel taxes and the damage they do to the roads, plus the danger from doped up drivers cost more than they pay. When I see how much they make per mile on their ass I think of them as hookers.
yup

Rolla, MO

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Mar 23, 2013
 
bloodfart wrote:
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Ok good for you, but when i retire there isnt going to be any money left for me. Baby boomers are fast retiring and now there are not enough people paying into the programs.
Also people are living alot longer now days. Raise the retirement age up a little bit to help offset this problem.
Hell when i do my taxes how about they cut me a check for 2% of what ive paid into SSI and let me invest it into the market and have control over it?
Pure bullcrappy.

SSI ran surpluses for many years and is able to continue, as-is, for another 35 years.
Been There

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Mar 25, 2013
 
bloodfart wrote:
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Ok good for you, but when i retire there isnt going to be any money left for me. Baby boomers are fast retiring and now there are not enough people paying into the programs.
Also people are living alot longer now days. Raise the retirement age up a little bit to help offset this problem.
Hell when i do my taxes how about they cut me a check for 2% of what ive paid into SSI and let me invest it into the market and have control over it?
I agree with both your points....raise the age to 64 for reduced bebefits and 67 for full benefits. And you should have the option to take 2 % for your personal investment plan. By the way, folks who take the early benefit are reducing the amount they get each month, playing the odds that they will live longer.
MoKidd

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Mar 25, 2013
 
bloodfart wrote:
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Alot of people are against investing a portion of SSI. But i think i can invest it better than DC. Let me make a lil extra with my own money.
all you have to do is stay alive and you will get back more than you could earn by investing, unless you are one of the billionaire elite---which I seriously doubt that you are
MoKidd

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Mar 26, 2013
 
bloodfart wrote:
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No im not a rich man but i make a comfortable living. And maybe the 2% investment isnt for you, but its for me. Should we not have the option?
Why fix something that isn't broke? You know it isn't broken. That is just a Wall Street ruse.

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