Open Carry - For or Against?
MOGunny

Belton, MO

#21 Feb 9, 2013
Old Greg wrote:
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And topix says you are posting from Rolla.
Are you just a guest at the Retard Ranch?
No, I have never set foot in the place. I hear it is very crowded there, and do not wish for you to be too uncomfortable.
MoKidd

Rolla, MO

#22 Feb 9, 2013
MOGunny wrote:
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Not exactly correct in every sense of the word.
Yes, while Missouri is an open carry legal state. In 1984 our (sarcasm starts here>) benevolant legislature gave us MRSO 21.750.
Firearms legislation preemption by general assembly, exceptions--limitation on civil recovery against firearms or ammunitions manufacturers, when, exception.
21.750. 1. The general assembly hereby occupies and preempts the entire field of legislation touching in any way firearms, components, ammunition and supplies to the complete exclusion of any order, ordinance or regulation by any political subdivision of this state. Any existing or future orders, ordinances or regulations in this field are hereby and shall be null and void except as provided in subsection 3 of this section.
2. No county, city, town, village, municipality, or other political subdivision of this state shall adopt any order, ordinance or regulation concerning in any way the sale, purchase, purchase delay, transfer, ownership, use, keeping, possession, bearing, transportation, licensing, permit, registration, taxation other than sales and compensating use taxes or other controls on firearms, components, ammunition, and supplies except as provided in subsection 3 of this section.
3. Nothing contained in this section shall prohibit any ordinance of any political subdivision which conforms exactly with any of the provisions of sections 571.010 to 571.070, with appropriate penalty provisions, or which regulates the open carrying of firearms readily capable of lethal use or the discharge of firearms within a jurisdiction, provided such ordinance complies with the provisions of section 252.243.
So, while open carry is legal in the state of Missouri according to state law. And Rolla, as they have no local ordinance against OC.(This is going to be confusing to some.) To say it is legal in every city or every municipality is FALSE. Missouri does not have a preemption when it comes to OC. MEANING any/every/or none can make ordinances against it. DO NOT TRY IT IN ST. LOUIS. You will be visiting the barred motel. And a person just never knows what local ordinances have passed in the last city aldermans meeting. One should be very diligent about keeping up with the local laws if they are going to OC.
With all due respect, I'm not trying to bust your chops. I would justy hate for someone to go to jail for not having all the facts.
Thanks for the information, Gunny. I knew that is was legal in most places unless posted or in towns like St. Robert where they do have ordinances against it. Some people don't want to look up the facts and I was hoping that someone would call me out or do exactly what you did. Thanks again. And thank you for your service, sir, assuming that the "Gunny" part isn't just part of your handle.
Killa the Constipated

Salem, MO

#23 Feb 9, 2013
Old Greg wrote:
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And topix says you are posting from Rolla.
Are you just a guest at the Retard Ranch?
I think he is Spencer.
MOGunny

Belton, MO

#24 Feb 9, 2013
Killa the Constipated wrote:
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I think he is Spencer.
No, have never had anything to do with "The Commons" or their board.
ralph

Rolla, MO

#26 Feb 10, 2013
Bloodfart wrote:
MoKidd do not apologize to Sister Sue! That is whats wrong with the whole discussion. Every time you make a point they cry out cause of their feelings. She has no idea of what she speaks. Though she has her opinion its wrong.
And yes you are right, if their had been a person that was armed, it could have been over as soon as it started. I hate when people say if there was an armed citizen it would have escalated and more innocent people would have died. I call BS. Most of us are trained the correct way. Yes there are some who should not be armed, but for those, and you know who you are, could have ended it quickly with minimal shots fired. Just my opinion.
You watch too much shoot-em-up shows, Bigshot. Ya talk like a simpleton.
mario

Belton, MO

#29 Feb 10, 2013
Sister Sue wrote:
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Actually my opinion is based on my personal observation and experience with people around this town. I think of some of the old auxiliary cop wannabes and how they accessorize their wardrobes with scanner radios and cop shoes. How cool they would look with a nice black Taurus all holstered up, cutting a movie-star profile as they swagger around Pine Street. Always alert for a wreck they may photograph so they can sell the picture to the RDN.
As far as you changing the outcome in the theater in Colorado, your statement is just so much horse hockey.
I am able to think for myself and take little stock in media propaganda, thank you very much. I really don't care for your tone and I really don't think you have the insight or the station to be talking down to me.
So go and scold and lecture from your anonymous keyboard. I will continue to believe that proponents of open carry have personality disorders based in their feelings of inadequacy.
You have some emotional issues that may or may not stem from your father. Just come by the tator patch and have a drink. I am here to listen to your dillusional ramblings.
Carpenter

Warrensburg, MO

#30 Feb 10, 2013
Having been a CCW holder since it's inception, I would never carry open. It's foolish to advertize and wouldn't prevent crime as much as some would like to think. My concern is that it flags you as the first target in a shooting situation. I carry to protect myself and those I care for ! If you feel the need to express yourself in a open carry manner...you might have other issues !!!
MoKidd

Rolla, MO

#31 Feb 10, 2013
I've heard that a lot, Carpenter. Some people say that those that open carry are disturbed or that we have "issues", but I disagree. I carry open because it does in fact advertise that I am armed. In my own opinion, that would prevent some measure of crime from happening to me or those around me. I have nothing against concealed carriers and I want to get my own CCW, but I would still carry open. It's just my preference.
MoKidd

Rolla, MO

#32 Feb 10, 2013
Bloodfart wrote:
MoKidd do not apologize to Sister Sue! That is whats wrong with the whole discussion. Every time you make a point they cry out cause of their feelings. She has no idea of what she speaks. Though she has her opinion its wrong.
And yes you are right, if their had been a person that was armed, it could have been over as soon as it started. I hate when people say if there was an armed citizen it would have escalated and more innocent people would have died. I call BS. Most of us are trained the correct way. Yes there are some who should not be armed, but for those, and you know who you are, could have ended it quickly with minimal shots fired. Just my opinion.
My apology was a little sour-tasting, I admit. I will never apologize for what I am or what I believe, but I do wish to keep this discussion civil. I've had this conversation a few times and have seen it get nasty very fast. It's great to see that there are a few people who are still able to speak out for their beliefs. And remember, I invited Sister Sue to a civilized conversation in person. I have yet to receive a response.
tards love guns

Rolla, MO

#34 Feb 10, 2013
Bloodfart wrote:
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MoKidd the apology is mine. Sorry to intrude on your space. But i hate when these people put in a faux madness. Sister Sue is part of the problem. The uninformed are always in the majority and when they type on here the other uniformed follow suit. Didn't mean to jump on your thread
Is your name bloodfart because killa was too rough with you?
tards love guns

Rolla, MO

#36 Feb 10, 2013
Bloodfart wrote:
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If thats all that you have to contribute please get ahold of floodbart and go to the gay threads!
Was violence involved? Why the bloody farts and why are you so proud of them?
tards love guns

Rolla, MO

#38 Feb 10, 2013
Bloodfart wrote:
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No violence is involved but ill rush forward for you as well
I don't get that one. Did you bend forward for killa to get the bloody farts?
Truman

Salem, MO

#40 Feb 11, 2013
Bloodfart wrote:
On second thought ill hold back and let you push forward. Good luck
I bet that would feel goooood!
MoKidd

Rolla, MO

#41 Feb 11, 2013
This just goes to show you that people actually want more of us to carry.

Today I was in Rolla Walmart with my .45 on my hip, as always, and as I passed a woman with two small kids I noticed that the little boy was looking at my gun and smiling. While they were walking past me I heard him say to his mom, "Mommy, that man has a gun. He shoots the bad guys." The mom said back, "That's right." I almost turned around and shook the little guy's hand. What is so hard to get that all we want to do is defend ourselves and others? For God's sake, a 5 yr old can get it!
basic truth

Rolla, MO

#42 Feb 11, 2013
MoKidd wrote:
This just goes to show you that people actually want more of us to carry.
Today I was in Rolla Walmart with my .45 on my hip, as always, and as I passed a woman with two small kids I noticed that the little boy was looking at my gun and smiling. While they were walking past me I heard him say to his mom, "Mommy, that man has a gun. He shoots the bad guys." The mom said back, "That's right." I almost turned around and shook the little guy's hand. What is so hard to get that all we want to do is defend ourselves and others? For God's sake, a 5 yr old can get it!
Little did mom know you are a pedophile and her son was giving you a 3 inch stiffy.
Mo Runny

Salem, MO

#43 Feb 11, 2013
MoKidd wrote:
This just goes to show you that people actually want more of us to carry.
Today I was in Rolla Walmart with my .45 on my hip, as always, and as I passed a woman with two small kids I noticed that the little boy was looking at my gun and smiling. While they were walking past me I heard him say to his mom, "Mommy, that man has a gun. He shoots the bad guys." The mom said back, "That's right." I almost turned around and shook the little guy's
hand. What is so hard to get that all we want to do is defend ourselves and others? For God's sake, a 5 yr old can get it!
That is one of the most ridiculous stories ever told. If you wore a Batman costume or Dora the Explorer a five year old would have been more impressed.
MoKidd

Rolla, MO

#44 Feb 11, 2013
You guys are a special kind of stupid. And basic truth, you have to be one of the dumbest, sickest assholes I've ever heard to even think something like that. Seriously. What is wrong with your head?
Mr/Mrs Runny, you can have that opinion if you want. I got a kick out of it. I've had people come up to me in Walmart and all over town and shake my hand BECAUSE I carry, even cops, and I just loved that a little kid can tell a good guy from a bad guy while so-called adults run like screaming little girls at the very mention of the word "gun" these days. Let me guess, you want us all to be like DC and Chicago? No guns, triple the murders.
basic truth

Rolla, MO

#45 Feb 11, 2013
MoKidd wrote:
You guys are a special kind of stupid. And basic truth, you have to be one of the dumbest, sickest assholes I've ever heard to even think something like that. Seriously. What is wrong with your head?
Mr/Mrs Runny, you can have that opinion if you want. I got a kick out of it. I've had people come up to me in Walmart and all over town and shake my hand BECAUSE I carry, even cops, and I just loved that a little kid can tell a good guy from a bad guy while so-called adults run like screaming little girls at the very mention of the word "gun" these days. Let me guess, you want us all to be like DC and Chicago? No guns, triple the murders.
Hey dude, You are a gun nut and a sicko. Take your fetish and your manifesto and stick them where the sun don't shine.
Mo Runny

Salem, MO

#46 Feb 11, 2013
MoKidd wrote:
You guys are a special kind of stupid. And basic truth, you have to be one of the dumbest, sickest assholes I've ever heard to even think something like that. Seriously. What is wrong with your head?
Mr/Mrs Runny, you can have that opinion if you want. I got a kick out of it. I've had people come up to me in Walmart and all over town and shake my hand BECAUSE I carry, even cops, and I just loved that a little kid can tell a good
guy from a bad guy while so-called adults run like screaming little girls at the very mention of the word "gun" these days. Let me guess, you want us all to be like DC and Chicago? No guns, triple the murders.
One of the most ridiculous stories followed by a an even more ridiculous response. Hard to believe too. How many shootouts have you been in at Walmart? I guess since you were visibly armed you probably prevented 20 or 30, five on black Friday alone.

Nothing wrong with conceal and carry but you seem to have a cowboy complex.
MoKidd

Rolla, MO

#47 Feb 11, 2013
basic truth wrote:
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Little did mom know you are a pedophile and her son was giving you a 3 inch stiffy.
You got me on that one.

Seriously, I like to introduce the element of danger into public places. I dress nice and am well groomed but you can see the look in peoples eyes. They think I might flip out and loose it and start blowing holes in them.

That is how I get respect. Real honest respect. I dress nice and strap on a 45 and people give me the respect I couldn't get any other way.

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