hope community church a cult or church
Member

Cookeville, TN

#183 Apr 3, 2013
Hope is an amazing church. Been a member for years. God is moving in that church. Before you judge the church go see what it is like.
Member

Sevierville, TN

#184 Apr 4, 2013
really wrote:
I don't think hope is abusers near a church they are more interested in there skate ramp and all that stuff I went there for a service and they told young adult go to a diff room I walked in to skating weight lifting and that type of stuff .. and once in there the only time god was mentioned is wen some one got hurt
None of that stuff is there
Columbo

Maryville, TN

#185 Apr 4, 2013
know mater wat naim yu yoose, eye cain tale hoo yu aire, cus yere spelin an wurds aire bed, bery bed
Hi yo

Knoxville, TN

#186 Apr 6, 2013
THANK YOU!!!!! Couldn't have said it better myself.
Anon wrote:
If you don't like the church, or don't agree with their teachings, don't go there. Simple as that. I feel that you have taken what Rip said out of context. He was saying GOD is the only true vine: he is the only vine that will never fail you, which is why you should choose him over anyone and anything. But based on your grammar, I can tell that you are lacking in knowledge; therefore, it just makes you look even more foolish that you would even state something of that nature about a church, let alone its pastor.
Hi yo

Knoxville, TN

#187 Apr 6, 2013
Ahhhhh.....you are one of those. People who think they can change God to fit their own purposes. God says "if you love me you will obey me". You think you can have church in your own heart? You are wrong. God also says, "Do not forsake the congregating of yourselves together." And besides....why would you not want to be a blessing to someone else for a little bit? Sounds like you've been spending way too much time with yourself anyway. Give someone else a chance to know you. You might be pleasantly surprised how much it would mean to someone's life. Give God a chance to show up for you and someone else. He won't as long as you disobey, I promise you he won't. Have a Great Day!!!
uneducated wrote:
NO-ONE reads this trash for the spelling unless
your an english teacher or you in you're own mind think that you are above everyone else which is a joke within its-self.....
watch and read the news and realise that MOST church dwellings are over loaded with greed,gluttin
gossip and some sort of chid or FAG corruption!!!
I am very satisfide that my church is within my
heart and not where some finger pionting,load mouth
tells me where it needs to be so he can pass around
the collection plate so he and his family can take
a vacation... name one that has gone to colledge
and got a degree in theodedgey "study of the bible"
for those of you that don't know...
Ummm no

United States

#188 Apr 6, 2013
Hi yo wrote:
Ahhhhh.....you are one of those. People who think they can change God to fit their own purposes. God says "if you love me you will obey me". You think you can have church in your own heart? You are wrong. God also says, "Do not forsake the congregating of yourselves together." And besides....why would you not want to be a blessing to someone else for a little bit? Sounds like you've been spending way too much time with yourself anyway. Give someone else a chance to know you. You might be pleasantly surprised how much it would mean to someone's life. Give God a chance to show up for you and someone else. He won't as long as you disobey, I promise you he won't. Have a Great Day!!!
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God created man in his own image right? That explains why he will use and discard people to meet his needs just like every person I know does. I found out that following God leaves me just as hurt and feeling used. At least I didnt have as high of expectations for people. I'd prefer to stay alone just the same.
Ummm no

Kingsport, TN

#189 Apr 7, 2013
I am good at stopping a "conversation" huh?

I noticed that as I post my heartfelt crisis, not one of you who claims to be more righteous (those holding up this church or those trying to tear it down) reached out to someone in turmoil. No one in this county or on this site has ever offered to sit & talk with me. I walk by you EVERY day, I WANT TO DIE EVERY day! I've been in this church and I've been on these streets but noone anywhere notices that I am broken. So go on and argue about what kind of music is played at the sermon or what toys are in the kids rooms. You all have a lot bigger problems that you can admit. You are still fighting between churches and you are loosing the war. Trust me, I'm the big looser because I'm not strong enough to fight on my own much longer & you all show me there's no place here to turn. "Sometimes it's harder to smile in front of everyone than to cry alone."
Truth is

Savannah, TN

#190 Apr 8, 2013
Ummm no wrote:
I am good at stopping a "conversation" huh?
I noticed that as I post my heartfelt crisis, not one of you who claims to be more righteous (those holding up this church or those trying to tear it down) reached out to someone in turmoil. No one in this county or on this site has ever offered to sit & talk with me. I walk by you EVERY day, I WANT TO DIE EVERY day! I've been in this church and I've been on these streets but noone anywhere notices that I am broken. So go on and argue about what kind of music is played at the sermon or what toys are in the kids rooms. You all have a lot bigger problems that you can admit. You are still fighting between churches and you are loosing the war. Trust me, I'm the big looser because I'm not strong enough to fight on my own much longer & you all show me there's no place here to turn. "Sometimes it's harder to smile in front of everyone than to cry alone."
Your post, at least to me, sounded much more like a rebellion against God and religion than a personal cry for help. People at Hope would care if they knew, but you can't expect them to be mind readers. Come to the church and reach out to anyone there. They can get you to the right person. Anonymously posting on topix won't get you the help you need. The first step is realizing you are powerless to do it alone. God will help but you need to let Him. Your plea here is a good start, but it's like a whisper in the wind. Come to Hope and talk to someone. At the very least put a way to contact you in a reply. People do care.
People care

Knoxville, TN

#191 Apr 8, 2013
Everyone is hurting is some way, but we have to reach out to someone if we want help. Why do you think there is such a drug problem here or why is there so many failed relationships. People are in need and there is only one answer. Just like when Christ got on His knees and cried out to His Father God when He was tormented -we have to do the same. God is our answer. He created us and He knows how to help us. We have to ask and we have to be open to how He may use others to help us. Closing ourselves off from others and allowing our pride to imprison ourselves is not the answer. Pray and ask God for direction and be open to help from other hurting people. Hope does have a program in place to offer help but individuals have to actually show up and let someone know they need the help. May God bless.
member

Greenwood, SC

#192 Apr 8, 2013
Ummm no wrote:
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God created man in his own image right? That explains why he will use and discard people to meet his needs just like every person I know does. I found out that following God leaves me just as hurt and feeling used. At least I didnt have as high of expectations for people. I'd prefer to stay alone just the same.
If you need some one to talk to you or to sit down have a conversation with im here ill talk to you but first i need a way to reach you
Ummm no

Tucker, GA

#193 Apr 8, 2013
I can see why you thought I was just being mean with my first post. I've struggled with my relationship with God all my life. Since I was very little I've been praying to God to give me someone to be able to open up to that will help me understand my faith. I've also prayed for a church home for years. Every time I thought it was happening though I get hurt worse. I have never opened up to other people without regretting it later. I appreciate your offers. And the congregation at Hope were for the most part some of the nicest I've met in Hawkins. I'm just not willing to risk it again right now. I hate life most days, if I get hurt again now I may act on those feelings. I don't feel like if I've been earnestly seeking God & follow His instruction in my life it should lead to years of repeated pain. There's no helping me right now but keep my situation in mind when people come into your life. It's impossible for some of us to ask for help unless we feel others are invested in us.
Cool enough

Easley, SC

#194 Apr 8, 2013
Been 4 times. 2 of those 4 the pastor made fun of overweight people. When he did the audience just laughed it up. Seems like a decent guy but should consider others feelings before he makes jokes.
Sensitive

Knoxville, TN

#195 Apr 8, 2013
Some of us are more sensitive than others and our sense of humor varies so nothing is 100% for everyone. Never felt like he making fun of me or anyone else, but he does use very real examples that everyone can relate to. He really was not making fun of anyone. Sorry that you felt that way.
Truth is

Savannah, TN

#196 Apr 9, 2013
Ummm no wrote:
I can see why you thought I was just being mean with my first post. I've struggled with my relationship with God all my life. Since I was very little I've been praying to God to give me someone to be able to open up to that will help me understand my faith. I've also prayed for a church home for years. Every time I thought it was happening though I get hurt worse. I have never opened up to other people without regretting it later. I appreciate your offers. And the congregation at Hope were for the most part some of the nicest I've met in Hawkins. I'm just not willing to risk it again right now. I hate life most days, if I get hurt again now I may act on those feelings. I don't feel like if I've been earnestly seeking God & follow His instruction in my life it should lead to years of repeated pain. There's no helping me right now but keep my situation in mind when people come into your life. It's impossible for some of us to ask for help unless we feel others are invested in us.
Okay so it seems there is a Catch 22 here. How can others be invested in you if you don't make yourself and your needs known?
Ummm no

United States

#197 Apr 9, 2013
Truth is wrote:
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Okay so it seems there is a Catch 22 here. How can others be invested in you if you don't make yourself and your needs known?
I tried letting people get close to me and it got me hurt again. Every time I do I get hurt. Every time I've tried following God and getting involved in church I've been hurt. How do you expect me to turn to the things that keep hurting me to solve my hurt? I want to be happy and belong somewhere but I've learned not to trust in those things anymore.
Truth is

Johnson City, TN

#198 Apr 9, 2013
Ummm no wrote:
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I tried letting people get close to me and it got me hurt again. Every time I do I get hurt. Every time I've tried following God and getting involved in church I've been hurt. How do you expect me to turn to the things that keep hurting me to solve my hurt? I want to be happy and belong somewhere but I've learned not to trust in those things anymore.
The key statement above is wanting to "belong somewhere." That takes a certain amount of trust. Sorry, but as the old saying goes you can't have your cake and eat it too. You've obviously reached out to the wrong people before - we all have. I'd encourage you to come to Hope, speak with someone, and go from there.
Cool enough

Stanfield, NC

#199 Apr 9, 2013
Sensitive wrote:
Some of us are more sensitive than others and our sense of humor varies so nothing is 100% for everyone. Never felt like he making fun of me or anyone else, but he does use very real examples that everyone can relate to. He really was not making fun of anyone. Sorry that you felt that way.
Why are you speaking for him? Does he ever say anything about overweight women? I seriously doubt it. This means he knows better but does it anyway. He seems like a nice guy and I'm not attacking his spirit. I just wish people would think about others feelings when making a little joke. Especially when it comes to physical appearance. I lost over 150 pounds ten years ago and I know how it feels to be the punch line to innocent jokes.
member

Cookeville, TN

#200 Apr 10, 2013
Ummm no wrote:
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I tried letting people get close to me and it got me hurt again. Every time I do I get hurt. Every time I've tried following God and getting involved in church I've been hurt. How do you expect me to turn to the things that keep hurting me to solve my hurt? I want to be happy and belong somewhere but I've learned not to trust in those things anymore.
You dont have to open up right away first talk to someone(me if youd like ) you dont have to let your guard down or nething just talk get to know that person then little bit at a time slow break down those walls like i said im more than willing to sit down and talk to you and help you grow
Hi yo

Knoxville, TN

#201 Apr 11, 2013
Image....yes, personality, morals, ethics, ultimate awe-inspiring greatness...NO. You really don't read the bible do you? We choose to sin. God is who he is...perfect. We, on the other hand are not. It is and always has been in each and every one of us, the desire to do what is right...but we simply do not. God sets the standards and if we love him we abide to those standards. Its as simple as that. I wish you weren't hurt and used but all of us have been too. I'm very sorry for your pain. If you will allow me, I will pray for you. I could use some prayer too, if you don't mind. Maybe together we can help each other. I hope you get to feeling better. Talk to ya later.....
Ummm no wrote:
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God created man in his own image right? That explains why he will use and discard people to meet his needs just like every person I know does. I found out that following God leaves me just as hurt and feeling used. At least I didnt have as high of expectations for people. I'd prefer to stay alone just the same.
Umm no

Kingsport, TN

#202 Apr 13, 2013
"Truth is" & "member" thank you for the kind offers. I have been to Hope and tried opening up to people but no one seemed interested. This isn't a slam against Hope in particular, I've had the same experience or worse at other churches. It seems that if I just live my life and don't get involved I'm fine, not happy but not in pain. Every time I try to get close to God my life falls apart. I'm sorry but I just don't believe that He cares about if I'm close to Him or not; if He did why would He allow the devil to ruin me when I asked Him to stop him? He wants others to be saved and I've helped get other people to Him but He doesn't want all of us...that's what experience has taught me. My soul is broken and I can't do it anymore.

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