Hawkins Memorial Hospital

Hawkins Memorial Hospital

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Fed up

Jefferson City, TN

#1 Sep 26, 2012
No wonder they are in the top 10%. They send people home too soon & to probably make it look like a speedy recovery. He is now in a different hospital. I can't believe this! It's all about the numbers. I think a Lawyer would be interested in what is going on at Rogersville hospital. Do you have a similar story?
Gotcha

Rock Hill, SC

#2 Sep 27, 2012
We have a hospital?????
Wendy

Johnson City, TN

#3 Sep 27, 2012
Your insurance company is usually the one that determines how long you stay in the hospital. So before you go blaming a hospital, check your insurance.
Lies

Elizabethton, TN

#4 Sep 27, 2012
Wendy wrote:
Your insurance company is usually the one that determines how long you stay in the hospital. So before you go blaming a hospital, check your insurance.
Does the insurance company discharge a patient? Nope.

Blame the insurance all you like but they only decide when they'll stop paying. The hospital decides when they stop treating. Big difference between paying and treating.
Daniel Boone

Fayetteville, TN

#5 Sep 27, 2012
Lies wrote:
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Does the insurance company discharge a patient? Nope.
Blame the insurance all you like but they only decide when they'll stop paying. The hospital decides when they stop treating. Big difference between paying and treating.
NO PAY! NO TREATMENT!
Lies

Elizabethton, TN

#6 Sep 27, 2012
Daniel Boone wrote:
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NO PAY! NO TREATMENT!
And?
Dr treatalot

United States

#7 Sep 27, 2012
Lies wrote:
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And?
And you are on your own which will probably be better for your health than our advanced modern medical treatments.
just sayin

Kingsport, TN

#8 Sep 27, 2012
Lies wrote:
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Does the insurance company discharge a patient? Nope.
Blame the insurance all you like but they only decide when they'll stop paying. The hospital decides when they stop treating. Big difference between paying and treating.
Actually they do determine when a patient should be discharged and the hospitals provide a service and due to the fact that so many people do not pay the hospital bills. The physicians deserve to get paid for their service the hospital deserves to get paid for their services as well. They cannot operate for free. That is why MSHA and Wellmont both just announced the policy to prepay for non emergency services. I had problems with that myself (being in the healthcare business) until someone explained it to me this way. You don't go to the grocery store and get to take home the products without paying.

It is about time that patients take responsibility for their own care as far as following the guidelines of care that the doctors recommend for them. I would feel safe to say that not many doctors would knowingly discharge a patient before they are safely ready to go home. But the patient has to take some responsibilty in their own care. But, that being said they are not psychic either.
Xfinity

New Market, TN

#9 Sep 27, 2012
Come to Hawkins County Memorial and they will send you to Holston Valley then wellmont gets two charges from the same patient . Very Smart .
sally

United States

#10 Sep 27, 2012
so what problems is the patient having?
Fed up

United States

#11 Sep 27, 2012
I just found out that they won't re-admit a patient for the same reason they were previously being treated. He has Pneumonia and is so weak. It's the hospital not the insurance. My friend said the insurance won't pay the hospital if they get admitted within 30 days of being released.
Dan

Johnson City, TN

#12 Sep 28, 2012
There are other Hospitals. My daughter has always used Indain Path and it's cleaner than any of the others close by.
fisheman

Spring Hill, TN

#13 Sep 28, 2012
They have a new lung Dr. there. Everyone admitted gets a pneumonia diagnosis even when it was a stroke or anything else , just to ride the insurance longer orering tests with large co-pays over $1000
I have thought the same

United States

#14 Sep 28, 2012
fisheman wrote:
They have a new lung Dr. there. Everyone admitted gets a pneumonia diagnosis even when it was a stroke or anything else , just to ride the insurance longer orering tests with large co-pays over $1000
a few yrs ago i had a broken wrist...new guy and all he did was put in cast of course when it heeled it was crooked...but i was scheduled for follow ups every few days and would always have an xray and just another appt and copay...after continued appts with the cast off it look like just an insurance grab..i never went back..
Daniel Boone

Fayetteville, TN

#15 Sep 28, 2012
fisheman wrote:
They have a new lung Dr. there. Everyone admitted gets a pneumonia diagnosis even when it was a stroke or anything else , just to ride the insurance longer orering tests with large co-pays over $1000

I know, thats what happen to me the last time I went to the ER with erectile disfuntion, Dr said I had pneumonia. I'm just glad he had some of those pneumonioa pills called viagra. I had a hot date later that night.
flo-rida

Knoxville, TN

#16 Sep 28, 2012
yeah cuz ppl heads go in there all the time and wont wont wont them must have not gave u all meds thats y u all r on here bashing..
Fed up wrote:
I just found out that they won't re-admit a patient for the same reason they were previously being treated. He has Pneumonia and is so weak. It's the hospital not the insurance. My friend said the insurance won't pay the hospital if they get admitted within 30 days of being released.
Nurse

United States

#17 Sep 28, 2012
People don't need to stay in the hospital forever and be waited on hand and foot. The sooner you get back to a normal routine, the better. I have had patients who have called for help to the bathroom when they have five family members sitting there in the room and are going to be discharged the next day. I've asked them, what are you going to do when you go home? I had a patient hit the call light so I could go in and hand him a soda that was out of his reach even though he was 100% capable of walking, bathing himself, etc. someone can come into the hospital with a broken arm and it's like they forget how to literally wipe their own butt. The human body is fairly unpredictable so there's always the chance that someone might have a complication or infection after they get home, especially if they're non compliant, but we do not discharge Patients who are unstable. Of course, you'll always have people who will blame the medical staff when their family member who chain smoked for 40 years dies of lung cancer. It's the doctors and the nurses who didn't do enough....not the cigarettes. You can do everything right and still get sick again or get an infection. We're talking about human bodies, not car parts. Things happen and sometimes there's just nobody who needs to be sued!
Really

Jefferson City, TN

#18 Sep 28, 2012
I thought it was the nurse's job to oversee patient care while they were in the hospital. Should a family member help them to the restroom and allow the patient to fall, who would be responsible? Maybe the family doesnt have the stomach to help in that situation.
You are the nurse. Is that not your job? Or do you just want to come into the hospital and sit, money for nothing?
I will agree that buzzing for a soda was excessive but gotta call you on the bathroom situation.
Good Nurse

Kingsport, TN

#19 Sep 28, 2012
Hospital Care and Nursing has changed a lot over the past 30 years. In my day, you bathed, fed your patients, changed their diapers, rubbed their backs, and saw to their every need. Today, some are in the profession just for the money. That doesn't get the job done. I have heard many RN's tell patient's "I'll find an aide to take you the bathroom or get you a bed pan." I would have been fired. Mrs. Fanny Murrell was a great role model and would not stand for anything but the best care from her nurses and physicians. She was a patient advocate. I too, have had family members in the hospitals, Rogersville, Kingsport, and UT. The care is the the same. Insurance does have a say, however, as a physician, who took the Hypocratic Oath, walk out of dying patient's room while they are taking their last breath and say they need to go for a chest x-ray and was speaking of sending her home that very day. The doctor did not realize the patient was dying. I was an eye witness and told him not to bother. After two more breaths, my family member died. STRONG QUALIFIED LEADERSHIP, is what is needed. Someone to stand up and teach the younger ones starting in the profession and to support the good ones already there. For the others, show them the door! It's hard work if it's done right. The computers also need to go. Surfing the net on company time is stealing and very unprofessional.
Patient liasons coming around asking if you want something to drink or another blanket, and what you really want to see is a DOCTOR!
Actually

United States

#20 Sep 29, 2012
Really wrote:
I thought it was the nurse's job to oversee patient care while they were in the hospital. Should a family member help them to the restroom and allow the patient to fall, who would be responsible? Maybe the family doesnt have the stomach to help in that situation.
You are the nurse. Is that not your job? Or do you just want to come into the hospital and sit, money for nothing?
I will agree that buzzing for a soda was excessive but gotta call you on the bathroom situation.
Actually if you are about to be discharged from the hospital then you shouldn't need nurse supervision or assistance to the bathroom. The same people who will whine about wanting to go home and complain they've been in the hospital too long are often the same ones who had surgery on a toe and want someone to literally wipe their butt for them. If you need a nurse to help you to the bathroom then what are you going to do when you're at home in 12 hours? Piece of advice: if you want to go home then act as though you've completed preschool and start walking, sitting up in the chair, and yes....wiping your butt. Furthermore, if I can teach an uneducated 17 year old mother how to place a nasogastric tube and work an IV pump then surely to god an entire family can be taught (if they aren't sure how already) to help their adult loved one walk the toilet. It typically involves standing close by and holding their arm. Where do you work, Eastman?
You do know that the hospital nurse's salary comes out of the room charge? People want to call the nurse who is being paid 20-30 bucks an hour repeatedly for frivolous things and then wonder why healthcare costs are so high. Do you know how many people die every year from medication errors? Just bc your pinky was broken doesn't mean you can't walk your happy ass to the bathroom and let the nurse do what actually needs to be done like get orders from the doctors and keep your medicine straight so you don't die.
I was 21 the first time I was ever in a hospital and I didn't even know you could ask for a drink. I took what they brought me at meal time and got my family to get anything else out of a machine. If I had a question I'd save it for the next time someone came in the room bc even at 21 and with no healthcare experience I could tell the staff were busy and I was not the only patient alive.

It is the job of nursing staff to help patients do things they aren't capable of doing themselves. that doesn't mean spoon feeding a 30 year old man who "can't feed himself" bc he's sedated on narcotics. That does mean feeding the 80 year old man who can't make his food to his mouth bc of tremors.

It doesn't really matter bc at the end of the day I'm getting paid the same.

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