GOP damaging health care more than Ob...

GOP damaging health care more than Obamacare

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Rush Limberger

Sevierville, TN

#1 Dec 3, 2013
Can we step back and get a little perspective? Yes, millions of people are getting cancellation notices from private insurance companies, but very few will actually lose their health care. There are, however, five million Americans having health care coverage taken away, not by Obama, but by the Republican governors in their states.

The feds are expanding Medicaid in half the states, picking up 100 percent of the tab for the next three years, and 90 percent forever after that. But in the other half, Republican governors are denying this coverage, screwing over the working poor to advance their political careers. These are people who make slightly too much to qualify for the old Medicaid, but too little to be eligible for the federal exchange. According to the non-partisan Kaiser Family Foundation, this includes over a million Texans, 764,000 in Florida, 409,000 in Georgia, etc. Wouldn’t it be nice if the “liberal media” cared about these folks as much as the people in the individual market?

Also, in a relatively low-income district in Louisiana, there was a surprise upset in a special election where the Republican who campaigned supporting Medicaid expansion beat the Republican who campaigned to repeal Obamacare entirely. Lately all we hear is how Obamacare is going to finish Democrats, but so far, Terry McAuliffe supported Medicaid expansion in Virginia and won and this guy (Vince McAllister) supported it in an extremely conservative district in Louisiana and won.

When Ted Cruz shut down the government, he said Republicans had to take on Obamacare now, because once the subsidies kick in, people will be hooked. Perhaps the botched rollout changes that, or, more likely, he’s still right. So wouldn’t the smartest approach right now be for Republicans not to lay back, but to actively become the “Fix Obamacare” people? And not with legislation like the Upton Bill, which was just repeal in drag. I mean, actually do little things to make the bill better and more popular. I realize it’s a bit radical to suggest the Republican Party actually serve the public, but since Obamacare is going forward anyway, wouldn’t it behoove them politically and allow them to play both sides? When things go well, they can say,“Yeah, that’s because we bailed his ass out,” and when things go poorly, they can say,“Wasn’t our idea.”
Interested Party

Alexandria, VA

#2 Dec 3, 2013
Forgive me, but isn't this a bit of double-speak?

"Can we step back and get a little perspective? Yes, millions of people are getting cancellation notices from private insurance companies, but very few will actually lose their health care."

I think you're confusing the word 'their' with 'the government's forced'.

If your insurance company withdraws your plan because it was forced to do so by Obamacare/HHS-driven regulations, and you no longer have the option of buying the policy that you once purchased, how is that not losing your health care coverage?

No, wait, you're telling me that because I'm being forced to purchase a higher-cost, higher-deductible plan or be taxed by the Federal government because I did not comply, that is not 'losing my health care'? I'm sorry, but that is some very convoluted and false logic.

I am LOSING the health insurance that I selected, compared, priced, and made an INFORMED purchase decision to spend MY money on without taking or expecting any assistance from or tax penalty imposed by the Federal government. I'm being forced to pick from a small cadre of Obamacare-compliant plans that will cost me more, cover me for things that I don't need (e.g., pregnancy), and take more money out of my pocket AGAINST MY WILL.

Please, take off your liberal glasses and tell me how that is not 'losing MY health care'?

Furthermore, the reality is that due to Obamacare, small and medium sized companies are going to simply withdraw the option of employer-provided insurance plans because the plans will be forced to comply with Obamacare. Employees, whether they want to or not, will be forced into the Obamacare marketplace by the tens of millions. That is precisely why the President delayed the mandate for certain small/medium sized businesses by one year (just within the last two weeks was made public), to avoid the monstrous backlash that is going to happen from occurring prior to the 2014 congressional mid-terms. Whether you like to admit it nor not, there is going to be a tidal wave of voter backlash against Obamacare from the mainstream (not just Republicans), it's coming and I look VERY forward to the day that it arrives.
Chico

Ringgold, GA

#3 Dec 4, 2013
Wasn't it a democratic governor in Tennessee who signed away TennCare?
She

United States

#4 Dec 5, 2013
Chico wrote:
Wasn't it a democratic governor in Tennessee who signed away TennCare?
. Great point sir! People look around,talk to people.Many people are getting their insurance taken and replaced with 6 and 8 THOUSAND dollar deductibles! This is ridiculous,so we can pay for people who do not work to have free insurance! I do care about people with pre-existing illnesses getting coverage,but there are many other options other than punishing people who work hard week end and week out.Why are we still letting these people run our country?( Democrats AND Republicans) They are running it right into the ground and one day we'll all be saying"How did this happen to us right here in America?" Do your research and see what is going on in this land of the free...I am not a conspiracy theorist,just not completely stupid or in denial and cutting the military pay AGAIN this week disgusts me. Take some of the Congress and Senate pay and leave the men and women fighting for our country alone. Am I the only one who feels this way? If so, I give up.
Fact

Maryville, TN

#5 Dec 5, 2013
Who cut the military Pay? The Republicans and Tea Party Sequestor.
Who Shut the Goverment down? The Republicans and Tea Party.
Who kept Tennessee from getting Health Care Expansion? The Republican and The Tea Party and Our Tea Party Governor.
Who has tried to keep the economy from growing? The Republicans and Tea Party.
Mr Haney

Abingdon, VA

#6 Dec 5, 2013
Healthcare as we have known will be gone forever. This will go down as one of the greatest blunders of any president. By 2017 you will understand why I am saying this. We have not seen the worst of it yet. Insurance is a governed by the commerce department and is something you must pay for. What would happen if they made car insurance the same as Obamacare? Insurance is a service you must purchase not a RIGHT covered by the constitution. Keep Manhattan just give that countryside!
GOP4Ever

Abingdon, VA

#7 Dec 5, 2013
Democrats taking this country down like the Titanic!
She

Tucker, GA

#8 Dec 6, 2013
GOP4Ever wrote:
Democrats taking this country down like the Titanic!
Yep! But it's both parties now. They are worried about nothing but the almighty dollar and do not care about anything else ALTHOUGH the Democrats have made this a welfare nation and when you have that many people dependent on the government, it is giving them way too much power over us and yes Obamacare will fail and that will contribute to it (the fact that there is not enough people working and paying in) I was a life-long, die hard Republican but now I consider myself an independent because both parties are so badly tainted. We need to clean house and start over but we all know that's not going to happen.
Fact

Maryville, TN

#9 Dec 7, 2013
Chico wrote:
Wasn't it a democratic governor in Tennessee who signed away TennCare?
No, That was Haslem The Republican Tea Party Governor.
70sMan

Martin, TN

#10 Dec 7, 2013
She wrote:
<quoted text> Yep! But it's both parties now. They are worried about nothing but the almighty dollar and do not care about anything else ALTHOUGH the Democrats have made this a welfare nation and when you have that many people dependent on the government, it is giving them way too much power over us and yes Obamacare will fail and that will contribute to it (the fact that there is not enough people working and paying in) I was a life-long, die hard Republican but now I consider myself an independent because both parties are so badly tainted. We need to clean house and start over but we all know that's not going to happen.
It's too late to start over. The damage is almost done, just waiting for the ripple effect and then all these TV shows about "Preppers" will all make sense. But for most, it may be too late.
I now find myself buying items that may someday (very soon) save my family's life.
Prepping, it's not so stupid anymore.
Reality

United States

#11 Dec 8, 2013
The GOP wants you to lose everything you have over a hospital bill so that they can come in and get what you had for nothing.

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