Time to take guns away from PTSD sufferers

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Feb 8, 2013
 

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hmm wrote:
highly doubtful..if u had u would be singing a different tune..which war? wat unit u with? call of duty doesnt count..theres not one vet i know that would say take away guns from ppl with PTSD..r u saying just bc somebody has it that they cant be deployed? i know plenty that have..i myself am on antidepressants n about to go back overseas..that mean i cant carry a gun? u my friend r worthless
Desert Storm, kid.

Here's my point. Two people with PTSD killed 2 innocent people last week. If there weren't so many that claim PTSD then it wouldn't be in the forefront. I know some with PTSD but I also know a shtload more that draw a check and brag about faking. These are also the people who say to only take the guns away from the crazies but leave the law abiding gun owners alone. They want their free check AND their guns.

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Feb 8, 2013
 
what unit would that be with? and so ur saying since some people u know r faking and getting a check that we should just take the guns away from every single person with PTSD because some people fake having it to get a check? thats the most ridiculious thing ive ever heard..and before u take it outta context..no i dont believe people should be able to fake PTSD to get a check or meds or anything like that..but taking actual PTSD sufferers weapons away because people do know how to fake it and collect the check..wow..
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Feb 8, 2013
 
Man up wrote:
Since we don't want our guns removed entirely across the board AND we always say to simply not let the "crazies" have them, it's time to act on it. If you take medication for depression or PTSD you shouldn't be allowed to own guns. Hopefully this would help people be more aware of themselves rather than just trying to take a pill for it. Maybe it would also stop things like someone who never even heard a shot fired getting to come home, milk the system, get a fcking dog just so he can take it to bars and restaurants and argue with the management while drawing attention to his fat ass.
Your thoughts?
ptsd isnt just caused by combat it could be getting robbed a car wreck rape. Let's take someone who has already been made a victim due to their vulnerability an take away there constitutional right and make them more vonerable that is a brilliant plan.do you always talk without thinking about what you're saying making your self look like an idiot or is this the first time? Shut the f*ck up
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Feb 8, 2013
 
hmm wrote:
what unit would that be with? and so ur saying since some people u know r faking and getting a check that we should just take the guns away from every single person with PTSD because some people fake having it to get a check? thats the most ridiculious thing ive ever heard..and before u take it outta context..no i dont believe people should be able to fake PTSD to get a check or meds or anything like that..but taking actual PTSD sufferers weapons away because people do know how to fake it and collect the check..wow..
III MEF

You're still missing my point. Don't call for guns to be taken away from the "crazies" while you're benefiting from being "crazy". When you start talking about taking guns away from people with mental issues then you're talking about 75% of the population or more.
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Feb 8, 2013
 
dr gonzo wrote:
<quoted text>ptsd isnt just caused by combat it could be getting robbed a car wreck rape. Let's take someone who has already been made a victim due to their vulnerability an take away there constitutional right and make them more vonerable that is a brilliant plan.do you always talk without thinking about what you're saying making your self look like an idiot or is this the first time? Shut the f*ck up
See above.
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Feb 8, 2013
 
Man up wrote:
Since we don't want our guns removed entirely across the board AND we always say to simply not let the "crazies" have them, it's time to act on it. If you take medication for depression or PTSD you shouldn't be allowed to own guns. Hopefully this would help people be more aware of themselves rather than just trying to take a pill for it. Maybe it would also stop things like someone who never even heard a shot fired getting to come home, milk the system, get a fcking dog just so he can take it to bars and restaurants and argue with the management while drawing attention to his fat ass.
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Your post makes no sense. You say someone with PTSD shouldn't own guns. A former cop that was just fired is killing cops in California. SO, lets make it that former cops shouldn't be allowed to have guns also. If someone is "milking" or faking the system by drawing a check for PTSD as you say, that doesn't make them dangerous by owning a gun, that just makes them a liar that owns a gun. Are you more worried about "crazies" owning guns OR are you just bitter that someone receives a check for PTSD? Your post is misleading and off base.
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Feb 8, 2013
 
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Desert Storm, kid.
Here's my point. Two people with PTSD killed 2 innocent people last week. If there weren't so many that claim PTSD then it wouldn't be in the forefront. I know some with PTSD but I also know a shtload more that draw a check and brag about faking. These are also the people who say to only take the guns away from the crazies but leave the law abiding gun owners alone. They want their free check AND their guns.
Get it now?
Desert Storm? Really!?! Desert Storm ahahahahaha
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Feb 8, 2013
 
Man up wrote:
Since we don't want our guns removed entirely across the board AND we always say to simply not let the "crazies" have them, it's time to act on it. If you take medication for depression or PTSD you shouldn't be allowed to own guns. Hopefully this would help people be more aware of themselves rather than just trying to take a pill for it. Maybe it would also stop things like someone who never even heard a shot fired getting to come home, milk the system, get a fcking dog just so he can take it to bars and restaurants and argue with the management while drawing attention to his fat ass.
Your thoughts?
The VA turn ya down? I'll "man up"!
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Feb 8, 2013
 
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III MEF
You're still missing my point. Don't call for guns to be taken away from the "crazies" while you're benefiting from being "crazy". When you start talking about taking guns away from people with mental issues then you're talking about 75% of the population or more.
im not talking about taking guns from anybody? that would be u..its a constitutional right to own a gun so why would i say take them away? u my friend are dumb..reread my post then come talk to me..sounds to me like ur just mad that u cant claim PTSD and have tried..im sorry u cant do that..and im not benefiting one bit from being so called "crazy"..i went to the VA for anger issues and they gave me pills n sent me on my way..hows that benefiting from anything? and u said just take away the guns from PTSD sufferers but now ur talking about everybody having mental issues? go cuddle with ur teddy bear and suck on ur thumb and be ashamed of yourself..sounds to me like u could use a few antidepressants since u couldnt get any..
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Feb 9, 2013
 
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<quoted text> Desert Storm? Really!?! Desert Storm ahahahahaha
I was in Desert Storm. Something funny about that?
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#32
Oct 29, 2013
 
master chowder wrote:
That said, you do raise an important question; what should we be doing to keep the mentally ill from getting weapons? You mention depression and PTSD, but how about:
- bipolar
- autistic/ADD/ADHD
- narcissist/entitlement mentality
Diseases of the mind are all the rage nowadays. Go to any school in America and you will see that all children nowadays are being diagnosed autistic and ADHD. All of them. 50 years ago these disorders didn't even exist, but now all our kids suddenly have all these mental illnesses??? Excuse me, why???? The answer is pretty simple: THEY AREN'T REALLY CRAZY.
- This is what happens when you take God out of the schools, raise everyone to be secular, teach everyone to care only about number 1.
- This is what happens when Dad isn't in the home and you have single mothers raising children; the kids have no idea what respect, discipline, family values, or work ethic are all about.
- This is what happens when you put kids in front of video games all day long; instant gratification and personal entertainment become their only priorities in life.
I agree with a lot of what you have said about the PTSD and how they avoid what caused their trauma to begin with. As for saying another cause is single parent raising, and not having a male role model in their lives is rediculous. Not every single mother out there has a problem controlling their kids; disclipline, showing respect-family values-work ethics. The problem is the raising of the child and I have seen kids that are raised in a home with both parents end up with kids that are disrespectful and unrulely. it doesnt matter if they came from a broken home or not. I am a single mother and have a child that was diagnosed with cancer by age 2 and is the most respectful, loving, and well mannered kid you can come across. Children will MIMIC what is around them. Bottom line!! If they were not raised with love, respect, or manners.. they kid will not display them. PERIOD!! My 9yr old amazes me on a daily basis with the amount of respect, manners, care.. ect that he has. He had a doctors appt for something major going on in his life, his non-existant father's gf shows up and after the appt my son looked at her and said, "Thanks for coming" unpromted. You start from DAY 1 by keeping control of your kids and showing right from wrong and you will end up with a kid that will suprise you in positive ways. STOP BLAMING SINGLE PARENTS! The problem is NON EXSISTANCE PARENTING!

You can take GoD out of schools, but you can not take GOD out of a person. General School populations do not teach GOD. They learn it by going to Church or religion classes. I dont agree with taking the word GOD out of the pledge alligence or any other anthem. That is how they were written and how they should be kept. You dont like it, go back to where you came from or just dont say the pledge. Its that simple.

Yes, there are real mental disorders that you seem to think are made up. What you fail to understand is the difference between 50yrs ago and today is the food and poisons we have now that you did not have 50yrs ago. Lack of things like IODINE. Your body does not make it, and they stopped putting iodine in foods. Obesity is right there with it. Ppl have gotton lazy. I admit, I got lazy as soon as I got my drivers license and a car. Going to take away all vehicles?

Next.. Ask yourself.. Did Sandy Hook REALLY happen or was that all just a drill?? There are a lot of questions with no answers. No one is allowed near the school and they are now tearing it down. Lack of ambulances from the start. no chaos. Look at a REAL school shooting and you see Chaos, People all over hugging other students, students crying on each others shoulders, real tears, panic... none of that at Sandy Hook. Not one of those kids interviewed showed any kind of emotion. Lack of injuries.. they ALL died?! Not even realistic. No clean up. No body removal photos. Staged funerals
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Oct 29, 2013
 
AND if ppl want to harm them selves, they are going to do it in other ways if a gun is not available. over dose on medication is another popular one. Are you going to take medication away from the crazies to prevent that too?? Ppl can obtain and will obtain guns illegally if they really want one bad enough. Some dont want to go out a no body so they go on these shooting rampages so they have left behind some kinds of memory, even if its a negative one. I do not own a gun and have no intention to unless the government starts to act like they are the only ones that should have them. dont tell me what I can not have because i will then go and get it. I refulse to live in fear and if comes down to me having to get one to protect myself and family, I will. This country is slowly trying to disarm and control us. Telling you how many rounds of ammo you can posses?? That is NY State currently and I pray all other states dont follow. Praying that this law is over turned in the near future. Hunters only allowed 7 bullets?! I guess police only need 7 bullets when they are under attack.
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#34
Oct 29, 2013
 
Taking the guns solves absolutely nothing......it's time to put effective programs in place to treat PTSD and any other disorder of this nature!!!!
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#35
Nov 1, 2013
 
PTSD is a very serious thing. You can't FAKE the symptoms. It is pure terror to watch someone spin or to be the person spinning. Most never recover from violence seen or survivors guilt etc.(Try cleaning up your bff brains from the room where he blew his brains out) BUT a key "healer" is family support.
That can't be stressed enough. Most meds have awful side effects. Chantix to quit smoking can give you seizures you die from. Research. Drug interactions. Serious stuff there. The preservatives in foods we eat, polyester clothing, plywood furniture, carpets etc. all contain carcinogenics. Research. Check out movies now. Violence? Weapons? And most people would be surprised at issues they may be diagnosed as having. Yet they are the first to point their fingers at people with mental issues. History? Our greatest inventors had mental illnesses. Leonardo Da Vinci, Thomas Edison, Einstein, Tessla, they think of things most don't. salute your lightbulb! And thank Tessla for that (NOT Edison) But mental illness is like diabetes and the same concern and needs should be addressed DAILY.
common sence

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Nov 1, 2013
 
a man and a woman get into an arguement and the man hits the wall to releave the stress of wanting to hit her. the cops are called by a neighbor and the man is charged with domestic violence and can never own a gun agian ....military is trianed physically and mentally to kill . some have killed, (men , women ,children )(casualties of war ). these people come home with this stuff rolling around in thier heads and the first thing they do is run out and buy a gun . i respect and appreciate the vets , but you are back home now . get a job , get off the pills ,stop expecting a free ride because you thought you might have heard a shot off in the distance .
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#37
Nov 1, 2013
 
i am an avid hunter , shooter and if it was not for my age , i would be a vet . to young in nam , and kuwiat was over before it got started . i know about the others but extra reenforcement was not called up. PIONT.. hunters and shooters do not need a 30 round clip ,or a fully automatic weapon. some one with a 10 year old misdemeanor domestic violence should be able to purchase a gun . all domestis gun laws should be looked at agian and revised by normal common since people and not a bunch of politicians being fed money from special interest groups . our leaders have got away from common sence ...
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#38
Nov 1, 2013
 
If each and every adult was armed and every one in the country knew so, I,PERSONALLY Truly believe that most of the shootings would cease!!!!! It's easy for some coward to just shoot random people in a place where they know that no guns are allowed. Have most Americans carry a firearm everywhere they go and see how brave they are then! Just my opinion and I think that it is a good one.

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