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curious

United States

#1 Jun 16, 2013
Anyone have the same problem I do and can't get ahold of them when you need too? I was recently widowed and left with children to support I went back to school and have recently started working it only adds up to about $1000 a month and get his social security. Now they tell me I'm over the limit and can't get health care for my kids. Maybe this is one of the reasons why you have so many not working. When you try they fight back by taking everything before you can get your feet under you.
lonestar

Kingsport, TN

#2 Jun 16, 2013
You have stumbled upon the real problem facing our country, especially this area, example: Stumpy doesn't have a job so the government pays most of his house payment, hands him food stamps, and gives his children health care.... Now Stumpy lands a decent job, for the area, lets say 26K, all of the sudden he has to pay his house payment, buy his groceries, and pay for his childrens health care. Let's add, house payment,$600 month =$7200 a year... now groceries, lets say a meager $100 a week or $400 a month=$4800 a year. Ok, health care... oh let's say another $400 a month= another $4800 a year. That is $16,800 a year that he now has to pay that he was getting sitting on his ass, so Stumpy does the math and thinks "I believe I'll just sit on my ass". The other $10,000 that he would make would most definitely go for things like fuel and wear and tear on a vehicle, so bottom line, IT DOES NOT PAY THESE PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO WORK!!! Very sad but very true!
master chowder

Harrisburg, AR

#3 Jun 16, 2013
I agree with both of you. Obama is handing out lavish gifts and paying people not to work, so why work at all? Being born "poor" in America is almost too good to be true. You get your lil EBT card, head out to Wal-Mart in your Cadillac, and buy steaks and ribs with one swipe. Couldn't be easier. And don't forget the free Obamaphone to top off the deal.

And what about those people who are honest, hardworking, and have never taken a single cent in government handouts? Well, let's hit them with a massive tax increase plus ten thousand pages worth of new government regulations designed to bankrupt them and the business that their family spent 50 years building by hand from scratch without ANY government assistance.

Because of the liberal agenda, Americans have become completely dependent on government handouts. Whenever you have a problem, turn to government for the solution.

People are no longer growing up to be responsible, mature adults who carry their own weight and pay their own way. Instead what we have are a hundred million self-entitled, immature deadbeats who have no job, cannot take care of themselves or their obligations, and are cranking out babies out of wedlock. And then they have that hand out for their government check.

It's all about Me, Me, Me.

Which is why Americans overwhelming picked Obama over Romney. Romney would have put all Americans back to work in paying jobs, while Obama was more interested in permanently extending everyone's unemployment benefits and welfare.

All empirical evidence shows that if you give a person one years worth of Unemployment, it will take that person exactly one year to find a new job. Give them infinite Unemployment benefits as Obama has done, and is anybody surprised that people aren't interested in finding a new job?

There was once a time when your grandparents were proud to take a job no matter how meager the pay. Your grandparents took that job with no benefits and no healthcare, they worked their butts off and did not complain about it. But not anymore, people have their paws out for that government check and their benefits.

The fact of the matter is, there are more takers than makers in our country. Which is why the middle class has disappeared and America's economy is in the toilet, because people like Obama are more interested in giving handouts to people who refuse to work.

Would you like to know how to get people motivated, how to get people to man up and pay for their own obligations? Eliminate the government freebies. Eliminate the benefits, the welfare, the EBT/WIC, the unemployment insurance, and the free health care.

It's time for the gravy train to end.
true

Kingsport, TN

#4 Jun 17, 2013
master chowder wrote:
I agree with both of you. Obama is handing out lavish gifts and paying people not to work, so why work at all? Being born "poor" in America is almost too good to be true. You get your lil EBT card, head out to Wal-Mart in your Cadillac, and buy steaks and ribs with one swipe. Couldn't be easier. And don't forget the free Obamaphones
I agree with you for the most part master chowder. I knew Obama wouldn't create jobs because he wants America to rely on the government & go broke. He keeps letting all these immigrants to come over take the jobs & handout all kinds of programs Americans can't even receive like healthcare and free medical. It really is the pits. Our country that once stood for many great things is now gone! I know someone that received one of those obama phones, that is disabled and can not work, anyhow this person only gets 68 mins a month and the phones are very cheap phones that you can purchase in the store for about $10. This person also only recieves a check from dhhr for $185 with two children. For the ones that make sure they get every government handout they can get then, that adds up to a lot of money & phones. I am not talking about the ones that are really disabled! But the ones that pop out a baby everytime they can get a tax break or bigger welfare check, that do not even take care of their children should be punished with imprisonment. It sickens me to see children go neglected so mommy or daddy can get high, but the ones who struggle like the one that is disabled & truly struggle like mentioned above I really feel sorry for them & kuddos for still making sure your children are properly taken care of.
true

Kingsport, TN

#5 Jun 17, 2013
Sorry for typos. I'm posting from my cell and very exhausted. I meant that those immigrants receive free healthcare & free schooling that our American children can't receive. Instead they are in debt to their eyeballs by the time they get their degree while Jose & Rhamadan has it made with the best of everything all through school and after. It disgusts me. No wonder some think why even bother. That is about how I feel even discussing it because it's not going to change it.
master chowder

Mount Vernon, AR

#6 Jun 17, 2013
Okay, okay... So black people are all on welfare and illegals are getting free healthcare. Great. What can we do about it? Probably nothing. This is what minorities do, take advantage of the system. And this is the same way things were 40 years ago. Nothing has changed.

Instead, the thing which has changed in our society is that the people who normally would have grown up and went to work are deciding not to. Not the minorities, but everyone else. In fact, a lot of times people are using blacks and illegals as an excuse.

"I don't have to work because they don't work either."

"My back hurts so much, ouch ouch! Blacks get disability for a stub toe, but I can't???"

This is the entitlement mentality in action. Make up excuses for why you don't have to try. Make up excuses for why society owes you one. Make up excuses and put all the blame on everyone else, like the blacks.

Personally I'm not so much concerned about blacks or illegals, instead I think we should focus renewed attention on the fact that the average American has the ability to decide that not working is better than working. This is a dangerous attitude for the average American to have. What if everyone decided to quit and go on welfare, Hmmm??

Sounds like a dream come true. Well, time for a reality check. If someone thinks that they can get off scot free without having to work, then we need to forcibly adjust your priorities and motivate you into doing what is right. For your own good. Unless you are a billionaire, you will take a job no matter how far beneath your dignity it may be, you will put in an honest day's work and you will pay your own way. And I don't want to hear any complaints, because there have been plenty of paraplegics who have found jobs and made productive citizens of themselves.

Time for a wakeup call. That means eliminating the handouts and government services that make it easy to not work. Cut these things across the board, make it your own personal responsibility to take care of yourself, your retirement, your healthcare. If our nation would simply do this, all of these Americans who are debating on whether or not they should get a job would no longer have the ability to debate; they would grow up, man up, and get to work. And our economy would take off like a focking rocket.

People who take government handouts are bums, period. They take and take, and contribute nothing back to society. I am a big believer in making people grow up and take care of themselves, one way or another. Which is one of the reasons my generation was able to achieve success; if we wanted something, we saved for it and took care of our own obligations. This is the difference between a society of mature, responsible adults who can take care of themselves, and what we have today.
spike

United States

#7 Jun 17, 2013
Problem is,this welfare trash vote for a living instead of working for a living.Thats how ovomit got elected and reelected.And,there are about to be 13,000,000 more democrats when these "undocumented immigrants"(liberal for "illegal aliens")are given amnesty.Wake the hell up America!
citizen

Kingsport, TN

#8 Jun 17, 2013
no politician will EVER get serious about welfare reform or beat it like a stepchild on the news because they know that more than half thier votes come from welfare recievers .face it . as long as welfare people are voting , welfare recievers is going to grow even more out of control than it is now .no political party is willing to bite the bullet and admit it because they know the party will be over the second anyone on ether side tries to fight it .
rose

Charlotte, NC

#9 Jun 17, 2013
some ppl cant work. some ppl cant.
Ummmm

Kingsport, TN

#10 Jun 17, 2013
rose wrote:
some ppl cant work. some ppl cant.
I agree there are some people who can't work. Handicapped, mentally ill, people with chronic illnesses, etc.

BUT most who don't work CHOOSE not to work. PERIOD! It is a choice!!!!!!
lonestar

Kingsport, TN

#11 Jun 17, 2013
Ummmm wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree there are some people who can't work. Handicapped, mentally ill, people with chronic illnesses, etc.
BUT most who don't work CHOOSE not to work. PERIOD! It is a choice!!!!!!
Agree, and job placement for a person that can't stand on their feet for 8 hours a day.... a friggin chair! Allot of factory jobs consist of pushing a button for 8 hours, put a stool in front of that button, "oh but I am in so much pain!" Hell, so am I but I get up every morning and go to work, two reasons, I was raised that way and I damn sure can't live on the check that I would get if I didn't, however if I can get me some food stamps, and help with my mortgage.... then I still have my morals.... WORK for a living!
Hmmmmmm

Kingsport, TN

#12 Jun 18, 2013
lonestar wrote:
<quoted text>
Agree, and job placement for a person that can't stand on their feet for 8 hours a day.... a friggin chair! Allot of factory jobs consist of pushing a button for 8 hours, put a stool in front of that button, "oh but I am in so much pain!" Hell, so am I but I get up every morning and go to work, two reasons, I was raised that way and I damn sure can't live on the check that I would get if I didn't, however if I can get me some food stamps, and help with my mortgage.... then I still have my morals.... WORK for a living!
WHAT????? You can't live on the meager check you would get from the government if you didn't work?

But that's the God damned HIGH LIFE baby!!!

Isn't that you people's entire argument? That if you don't work you still get enough money to live on and have extravagant things like Cadillacs? Well, which is it? You dumbfucks can't have it both ways.

The truth is, food stamps cap out at $200 a month for a single person, and men cannot get health insurance, or any other benefits. You can however, get a free cell phone with limited minutes thanks to a program started by Ronald Reagon in the 80's, which was put in place to insure that even poor people would have access to emergency services.

So to all you idiots that think welfare is this grand lifestyle that people are just falling all over themselves to get a piece of, I urge you.....quit your jobs now, apply for welfare, live on it until the funds you have squirreled away have run out, and welfare is the only source of income you have left, then come back and tell us all how great it is.

Until you do that, shut the fuck up, because you have no idea what you are talking about.
YOU DID IT NOW

Dandridge, TN

#13 Jun 18, 2013
Exposed thaT liberal Reagan after they had already gave the black guy credit. we don't want to offend all these FAX people.
citizen

Kingsport, TN

#14 Jun 18, 2013
Hmmmmmmmmmm ..... we,re talking about corrupt welfare .... maybe if so many deadbeats wasn't recieving welfare , you might have a little something extra on your check next month . if you can afford to have the internet service and the biggest movie package cherter has to offer , you're not in that bad of shape you ignorant deadbeat piece of shi$$$$$$ ..
YOU THECORRUPT POOR

Knoxville, TN

#15 Jun 18, 2013
Are really just doing what the RICH have always done...game the system, look for loop holes or just buy a vote in congress.
Legal Lies

Kingsport, TN

#17 Jun 19, 2013
master chowder wrote:
I agree with both of you. Obama is handing out lavish gifts and paying people not to work, so why work at all? Being born "poor" in America is almost too good to be true. You get your lil EBT card, head out to Wal-Mart in your Cadillac, and buy steaks and ribs with one swipe. Couldn't be easier. And don't forget the free Obamaphone to top off the deal.
And what about those people who are honest, hardworking, and have never taken a single cent in government handouts? Well, let's hit them with a massive tax increase plus ten thousand pages worth of new government regulations designed to bankrupt them and the business that their family spent 50 years building by hand from scratch without ANY government assistance.
Because of the liberal agenda, Americans have become completely dependent on government handouts. Whenever you have a problem, turn to government for the solution.
People are no longer growing up to be responsible, mature adults who carry their own weight and pay their own way. Instead what we have are a hundred million self-entitled, immature deadbeats who have no job, cannot take care of themselves or their obligations, and are cranking out babies out of wedlock. And then they have that hand out for their government check.
It's all about Me, Me, Me.
Which is why Americans overwhelming picked Obama over Romney. Romney would have put all Americans back to work in paying jobs, while Obama was more interested in permanently extending everyone's unemployment benefits and welfare.
All empirical evidence shows that if you give a person one years worth of Unemployment, it will take that person exactly one year to find a new job. Give them infinite Unemployment benefits as Obama has done, and is anybody surprised that people aren't interested in finding a new job?
There was once a time when your grandparents were proud to take a job no matter how meager the pay. Your grandparents took that job with no benefits and no healthcare, they worked their butts off and did not complain about it. But not anymore, people have their paws out for that government check and their benefits.
The fact of the matter is, there are more takers than makers in our country. Which is why the middle class has disappeared and America's economy is in the toilet, because people like Obama are more interested in giving handouts to people who refuse to work.
Would you like to know how to get people motivated, how to get people to man up and pay for their own obligations? Eliminate the government freebies. Eliminate the benefits, the welfare, the EBT/WIC, the unemployment insurance, and the free health care.
It's time for the gravy train to end.
I agree, but i also believe the government should really only help the ones that are actually trying to help themselves. i think you should have a job as a requirement for ANY kind of benefits, even unemployment, that way we wont have to pay people for not working. Ive known people to sell off their stamps for drugs and its a waste, i watch these people do this while struggling to find a good job and not have a dime to my name and bills to pay yet the only thing ive ever tried to get from the government is health insurance, wife already pays almost $400 a month for her insurance and only makes $1200 a month. to add me would be an additional $372, that leaves us with just 400 bucks for gas food water electric and rent, Wheres the justice in having to pay almost 800 bucks a month for health insurance for a married couple while others get it for free? Its not Fair and it needs to be balanced out a little better, we are actually trying in society and not using the govt assisstance yet we have to pay such high insurance that it keeps us down financially. Obamacare is a joke.
IT IS WORTH IT

Kodak, TN

#18 Jun 19, 2013
To see chowder and spike have their drawers in a wad blaming THEIR BLACK PRESIDENT. You do know under bush it became okay for news outlets like fox to lie? that is the beginning of the end.
Whoops

Knoxville, TN

#19 Jun 19, 2013
Such a stupid statement. Like Bush ok'd Fox news to lie and Fox complied! BUT,, maybe that is the only explanation for what is happening right now with all the outright lying going on across the board from our government. Starting with the president. Never thought I would live long enough to hear such outlandish and stupid performances from elected officials, and people swallowing the lies and buying into the craziness. Obama should just tell Fox news to quit lying and that would fix everything.
News

Kingsport, TN

#20 Jun 20, 2013
Telling lies in the news media was made legal a few years ago under bushs presidency, im sure that has a lot to do with libel cases these days on the internet.
AS INFO

Knoxville, TN

#21 Jun 20, 2013
Studies have proved that people watching fox actually know less than people that never watch or listen to news.

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