Why are cigarettes so expensive??

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So Heartless

Marietta, SC

#1 Mar 15, 2009
Why are cigarettes gettin more & more expensive?? I heard that Obama is wanting everyone to quit & thats why, but.. I don't beleive it.

Whats the real reason??

“Ow3n”

Since: Oct 07

American Computer Techs

#2 Mar 16, 2009
Taxes & lawsuits.

The reason for the lawsuits is a no brainer... tobacco industry lied for years and manipulated the numbers to make tobacco(and it's additives) appear less harmful than it is in fact.

The taxes ? Well it makes more sense to have higher taxes on unhealthy indulgences than it does to raise taxes on the basic necessities of life. Plus you get into the overall cost of tobacco's impact on even non-smoker's. Fact is when a smoker gets cancer, heart disease, etc.. and they either have no insurance or their insurance doesn't cover them sufficiently... then the economic burden falls upon every citizen....Even those who don't smoke.

Alcohol, tobacco, soda pop, candy, junk food, etc.. are all unhealthy indulgences. Not a necessity for a healthy life.
I would prefer to see taxes raised on such unhealthy indulgences and taxes dropped on the basic foods.

In short... I have zero sympathy for people who continue to choose smoking. It's free choice and if you lack the brains to choose wisely then expect to pay dearly for your poor decisions.
Spiked

United States

#3 Mar 16, 2009
it is a tax on the poor. And like ow3n said, probably a justifiable one.
Rich people will spend $5000 to find a way to avoid paying $5003 in taxes. So the government goes after the easy targets; poor people.
Every pack of cigarettes sold, every lottery ticket sold is to make money on dumb people.
You can't raise the taxes on liquor or coffee (legal drugs) though, the rich people would have a fit.
Some day soon I hope, we will get someone smart enough to figure out marijuana tax could be a much needed income source.
dragonlady

Gatlinburg, TN

#4 Mar 16, 2009
Thank Obama for the new .62 tax on cigarettes per pack!

“You know they all....pretend”

Since: Nov 08

Flush 'em out, TN

#5 Mar 16, 2009
Part of those recent pork bills passed by congress and signed by the Messiah, unfortunately.
If indeed it is a "tax on the poor", then he's broken another campaign promise.
It's supposed to go to help cover health insurance on kids or some such; of course, since federal spending is one big pot to begin with, good luck figuring out if it actually does wind up doing that.

The federal tax on a pack goes from 39 cents to $1 on April 1st.
Add that to the state tax of 62 cents a pack and you get the idea...and those are just the taxes on the consumer end.
The cigarette companies are paying out the nose, too, and every time taxes are raised on them, they naturally pass the cost along to the customer as well.

Tax revenue off pot, eh?
Talk about a "tax on dumb people"....
Overtaxed

Duffield, VA

#6 Mar 16, 2009
Ow3n wrote:
Taxes & lawsuits.
The reason for the lawsuits is a no brainer... tobacco industry lied for years and manipulated the numbers to make tobacco(and it's additives) appear less harmful than it is in fact.
The taxes ? Well it makes more sense to have higher taxes on unhealthy indulgences than it does to raise taxes on the basic necessities of life. Plus you get into the overall cost of tobacco's impact on even non-smoker's. Fact is when a smoker gets cancer, heart disease, etc.. and they either have no insurance or their insurance doesn't cover them sufficiently... then the economic burden falls upon every citizen....Even those who don't smoke.
Alcohol, tobacco, soda pop, candy, junk food, etc.. are all unhealthy indulgences. Not a necessity for a healthy life.
I would prefer to see taxes raised on such unhealthy indulgences and taxes dropped on the basic foods.
In short... I have zero sympathy for people who continue to choose smoking. It's free choice and if you lack the brains to choose wisely then expect to pay dearly for your poor decisions.
This is the ABSOLUTE truth and that is from a smoker. I do wish that the pain were spread a little more evenly on the other vices (lol) I guess because I am not hooked on, and do not indulge in the other vices that you listed ! I also lament the loss of the tobacco farms and markets which brought a lot of money into our community and into the hands of farmers (including mine). Tobacco is still being produced and bought by the companies. Unfortunately, more and more of it comes from outside our country where the oversight of what is used to produce it is nonexistant, making it MORE unsafe than ever. The constant "outsourcing" of our products in search of ever higher profits for CEO's and shareholders will eventually leave nobody left here who can afford the products produced.
Overtaxed

Duffield, VA

#7 Mar 16, 2009
moparedtn wrote:
Part of those recent pork bills passed by congress and signed by the Messiah, unfortunately.
If indeed it is a "tax on the poor", then he's broken another campaign promise.
It's supposed to go to help cover health insurance on kids or some such; of course, since federal spending is one big pot to begin with, good luck figuring out if it actually does wind up doing that.
The federal tax on a pack goes from 39 cents to $1 on April 1st.
Add that to the state tax of 62 cents a pack and you get the idea...and those are just the taxes on the consumer end.
The cigarette companies are paying out the nose, too, and every time taxes are raised on them, they naturally pass the cost along to the customer as well.
Tax revenue off pot, eh?
Talk about a "tax on dumb people"....
Mopared, this is a separate bill which passed with bipartisan support last year. President Bush vetoed it and it was brought up in the new congress. Again it passed with support from both parties and was signed by Obama. It will provide insurance for more kids under the SCHIP program. I think it is a good program and while I do not ENJOY paying more for cigarettes, I feel better about paying it for SCHIP than I do paying the HUGE cigarette tax that the Tennessee legislature slapped on cigarettes while they were bouncing thousands of people off Tenncare. That bill was sponsored and SUPPORTED by our own State Representative, a republican if memory serves.

“Sick and Twisted”

Since: Dec 07

Duluth, GA

#8 Mar 16, 2009
Spiked wrote:
it is a tax on the poor. And like ow3n said, probably a justifiable one.
Rich people will spend $5000 to find a way to avoid paying $5003 in taxes. So the government goes after the easy targets; poor people.
Every pack of cigarettes sold, every lottery ticket sold is to make money on dumb people.
You can't raise the taxes on liquor or coffee (legal drugs) though, the rich people would have a fit.
Some day soon I hope, we will get someone smart enough to figure out marijuana tax could be a much needed income source.
Soooo, I'm confused. You are saying that only poor people smoke. And those who smoke don't drink coffee or alcohol. Everyone I know that smokes, poor or not, drinks coffee and alcohol also.
GREAT

White Pine, TN

#9 Mar 16, 2009
moparedtn wrote:
Part of those recent pork bills passed by congress and signed by the Messiah, unfortunately.
If indeed it is a "tax on the poor", then he's broken another campaign promise.
It's supposed to go to help cover health insurance on kids or some such; of course, since federal spending is one big pot to begin with, good luck figuring out if it actually does wind up doing that.
The federal tax on a pack goes from 39 cents to $1 on April 1st.
Add that to the state tax of 62 cents a pack and you get the idea...and those are just the taxes on the consumer end.
The cigarette companies are paying out the nose, too, and every time taxes are raised on them, they naturally pass the cost along to the customer as well.
Tax revenue off pot, eh?
Talk about a "tax on dumb people"....
Thinking oh genuis.
GREAT

White Pine, TN

#10 Mar 16, 2009
dragonlady wrote:
Thank Obama for the new .62 tax on cigarettes per pack!
and now if he can help Tenn tighten it immigration laws...
Good God

Plymouth, MN

#11 Mar 16, 2009
I hope they tax them out of the industry.
Overtaxed

Duffield, VA

#12 Mar 16, 2009
Robyn Williams wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone I know that smokes, poor or not, drinks coffee and alcohol also.
Not me !(lol) But then, I guess you don't know me.
screech

Morristown, TN

#13 Mar 16, 2009
The tobacco companies have been making money hand over fist for decades now. Their costs to make a pack of cigarettes is so much less than the cost to buy a pack. Their only option is to lower the price they charge to increase demand for their product. The rate the government is going, nobody will be able to afford to smoke for much longer so if the tobacco companies want to stay in business, then they need to accept a smaller profit by lowering what they charge per pack(not including taxes) and get more people smoking again.
poor god

Knoxville, TN

#14 Mar 16, 2009
about everyone i know that smokes got marlboro coupons..they do this every time they raise the prices. there is also a game that you can enter to win big prizes. they have sent me ashtrays and all kinds of worthless gifts. i have called them and told them to keep their gifts, just send coupons. all i can say for smokers...WE ARE STUPID...every time i think how stupid i am for smoking and not trying to live a long life i just remember my last visit to a nursing home. i don't think any of them are smokers,so what good did it do them.
dragonlady

Gatlinburg, TN

#15 Mar 16, 2009
Get them smoking again??? Are you serious??? It is a danger to your heath AND ours. Times change.

In my humble opinion - It's time to move on from cigarettes or it will be something that only the rich can afford if they tax them so much the working class can no longer afford them. I feel for the industry thst has made this it's livelihood, but it doesn't look good for them. Maybe it's time to grow corn for ethanol instead of growing tobacco. Who knows, maybe tobacco will be able to fuel a car one day! LOL.

Since: Nov 08

East Gybyp

#16 Mar 16, 2009
I am a stupid smoker. having said that I think they should be taken off the market. Yes there would be some very irritable people walking around for a few days but we would get over it.

I buy my cigs from a nice christian man who has revivals and everything.
I have always wondered how he justifies this practice. Isn't he contributing to the death of many people? Is that pro-life?
And your point is

Kingsport, TN

#17 Mar 16, 2009
"Rich people will spend $5000 to find a way to avoid paying $5003 in taxes. So the government goes after the easy targets; poor people."

Then that would mean that $5k is placed in the working local economy and not sent to DC. So you think $5003 to the government to be squandered on a bridge to no where is better than $5k immediately injected in to the local economy? Sounds like you may have just landed yourself a political appointment for your vast understanding of economics:)
Possum

United States

#18 Mar 16, 2009
Tobacco helped raise me,and I remember an old farmer saying"this stuff is made to be sold,not smoked" (I also had a bootlegger tell me the same thing).I wish a pack of cigarettes cost $10.00.As Owen alluded to,these people had a choice,and it is not my fault they are constantly in the hospital,but I'm paying for most of them.Death from anything "lungs",is the WORST death anyone can have.At the end,after the home oxygen and all the meds,you SMOTHER to death 24/7.You can't even sleep,because you are gasping for air.About this time,they "quit smoking",except it's way too late. Watching someone die of end-stage emphysemia or lung cancer,is not for the faint hearted.Before people think I'm perfect,I dip Skoal,and I know the horror of mouth cancer.A can lasts 3-4 days,but that is a can too much.O well!

Since: Nov 08

East Gybyp

#19 Mar 16, 2009
Possum wrote:
Tobacco helped raise me,and I remember an old farmer saying"this stuff is made to be sold,not smoked" (I also had a bootlegger tell me the same thing).I wish a pack of cigarettes cost $10.00.As Owen alluded to,these people had a choice,and it is not my fault they are constantly in the hospital,but I'm paying for most of them.Death from anything "lungs",is the WORST death anyone can have.At the end,after the home oxygen and all the meds,you SMOTHER to death 24/7.You can't even sleep,because you are gasping for air.About this time,they "quit smoking",except it's way too late. Watching someone die of end-stage emphysemia or lung cancer,is not for the faint hearted.Before people think I'm perfect,I dip Skoal,and I know the horror of mouth cancer.A can lasts 3-4 days,but that is a can too much.O well!
I will agree that smoking is a choice if you will concede that the tobacco industry targets children as thier older customers die off.

I started smoking when I was 15, my older sister taught me how to inhale, thanks sis. I haven't managed to be able to quit yet, it is an ongoing struggle. Perhaps they should remove the nicotine to make cigarettes less addictive but NO, they put the addictive agent into gum or mints. Next thing you know people will be addicted to gum.
Soulman

Kingsport, TN

#20 Mar 16, 2009
As I've said many times before, anything the goverment "gives" us is paid for with our money and we'll have to pay it back with loan shark interest rates.

The new cigarette tax funds an extra $35 billion for State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP).
The new law boosts total SCHIP funding to approximately $60 billion.

Opponents of the legislation argued that, among other things, it will allow undocumented immigrants to illegally access taxpayer-financed health care, and is insufficiently funded.

We're also footing the stimulus bill fund to help people stop smoking. They'll have to tax your booze, coffee and koolaide and probably water after everyone stops smoking.

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