Joined: May 23, 2009
Comments: 12
Hanover, Germany
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Prosecute the driver to the fullest extent of the law! The "accident" didn't have to happen. The driver was stupid and inexperienced and now three people are dead. One of them was a friend of mine.
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what
Onaway, MI
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What if they were your children?
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Joined: May 23, 2009
Comments: 12
Hanover, Germany
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They aren't my children. If one of them was my child though, I would plead for mercy. I would expect any parent to. An irresponsible teen killed three people. He deserves to be punished.
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Stop
Howell, MI
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Northerner you are a jackass. We can see this from your reply. Plead for mercy for your child. Yet if another does the crime you would be in the front row with your pitchfork. I believe the person driving no matter what age should be held responsible and should receive punishment...age aside.
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Onawayer
Onaway, MI
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what wrote: What if they were your children? What if they were YOUR children which were killed? What side of the fence would you be on then? I'm so sick of bleeding hearts.
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Aspasia
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Driving laws are in effect to be obeyed and enforced. An irresponsible driver, who clearly was concerned only with joyriding, murdered three innocent people. Throw the book at the driver and certainly revoke his driving privileges (yes, they are PRIVILEGES) for as long as the law allows. The driver has proven he is a danger to society.
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never
Merrill, MI
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unless you have NEVER driven irresponsibly, ie. too fast for road conditions, speeding, talking on your cell while driving, driving when you are tired or driving after you have been drinking, be careful how you judge. Every one of these infractions required thought out intent. The only difference is you did not cause any injury to yourself or others. Let the punishment be tempered with forgiveness so everyone can heal.
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Joined: May 23, 2009
Comments: 12
Hanover, Germany
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Stop, what kind of parent wouldn't beg for mercy from the judge? Are you going to hang your kid out to dry?
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Black Lake Snake
Petoskey, MI
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WTF....you do the crime...pay the time....by the way....how many ppl were crammed into this truck anyways...?....mercy ?...NO...the punishment should fit the crime.....three ppl are dead....because of negligence..by the way...is PI Academy a closed campus?....or is off ground lunch approved?...maybe someone should ask that Question.....I know Onaway public is supposed to be Closed...but with NO police force...who can enforce anyways....
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Onawayer
Onaway, MI
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never wrote: unless you have NEVER driven irresponsibly, ie. too fast for road conditions, speeding, talking on your cell while driving, driving when you are tired or driving after you have been drinking, be careful how you judge. Every one of these infractions required thought out intent. The only difference is you did not cause any injury to yourself or others. Let the punishment be tempered with forgiveness so everyone can heal. The difference here is the degree of neglegence which was demonstrated by the teenage driver. With the exception of some of the examples you have cited (driving under the influence, excessive speeding) sure, everyone is guilty of commiting these infractions. I, however, can honestly say that I have NEVER (even as a teen) crammmed five of my friends into a vehicle, drove excessively fast on icy roads and killed three innocent people. Never. Now, those three factors combined are FACT. Throw in all of the heresay - which will come out in court soon enough - such as they were high, the driver was showing off, they were skipping school -('cause they sure as heck were not in any area where they could pick up lunch as they claimed), and you've got a bona fide little criminal who deserves to have the book thrown at him. Yes, the community needs to forgive this youngster in order to heal, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't get away with only probation and a slap on the wrist for the deaths he caused. In fact, that would only cause more bitterness in some circles. I believe the community needs to see justice. This wasn't your run of the mill accident, this was caused by GROSS Neglegence. He didn't just *oops* slip off the road because he was going a tad too fast, he was somewhere he probably wasn't supposed to be and KILLED three.
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Jeep Wrangler
Canton, MI
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Onawayer wrote: <quoted text> The difference here is the degree of neglegence which was demonstrated by the teenage driver. With the exception of some of the examples you have cited (driving under the influence, excessive speeding) sure, everyone is guilty of commiting these infractions. I, however, can honestly say that I have NEVER (even as a teen) crammmed five of my friends into a vehicle, drove excessively fast on icy roads and killed three innocent people. Never. Now, those three factors combined are FACT. Throw in all of the heresay - which will come out in court soon enough - such as they were high, the driver was showing off, they were skipping school -('cause they sure as heck were not in any area where they could pick up lunch as they claimed), and you've got a bona fide little criminal who deserves to have the book thrown at him. Yes, the community needs to forgive this youngster in order to heal, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't get away with only probation and a slap on the wrist for the deaths he caused. In fact, that would only cause more bitterness in some circles. I believe the community needs to see justice. This wasn't your run of the mill accident, this was caused by GROSS Neglegence. He didn't just *oops* slip off the road because he was going a tad too fast, he was somewhere he probably wasn't supposed to be and KILLED three. It never happened to you only because you were LUCKY. Stupid! But LUCKY. Also Negligence is spelled with an I. SEE!!! You aren't sooo SMART!!!! But hey. Have a nice day.
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Onawayer
Onaway, MI
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Uhhhh, no... I can honestly say I have never been so reckless as to kill anyone, not one, not three innocents. Luck has nothing to do with it. I've always been somewhat responsible. Its not hard, just use common sense, which that child did not use when he recklessly killed three people. Really!?!! Thats your argument???? Weak. You're just on the attack and you're searching, realllllllly searching for something to stick me with. I'm not even sure why I'm responding to you, JW. I must be feeling generous this morning, so I guess I'll throw ya a bone. BTW, thanks for using the spellcheck function on my post. Its nice to know that there are nice people like you out there looking out for nice people like me.
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BenicetoOnawayer -Heretard
Onaway, MI
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Hey stupid, how's it going? Probation is plenty for Ben. That's all the criminals in this county get for anything anyway. The difference between all the drug dealers, sex offenders and theives(who kill and ruin lives intentionally over and over) in PIC and Ben is....Ben is minor who didnt mean to kill anyone. Another difference is.. He has remorse. He comes from a respected family and they will never get over this. You can't ask for justice on this accident when the Cheboygan and Presque Isle County courts don't take a hard line on anything else. Take his license, give him probation and let him try to pick up the pieces of his soul. Please quit slanting the facts, i.e. How do you "cram" 5 friends in a vehicle when the manufacturer provides seats and seat belts for five passengers??? Wait, dont explain it, I never responded to you.
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“Ignorence is bliss! ”
Joined: Apr 22, 2009
Comments: 84
Onaway
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Onaway, MI
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I agree in full, Thats the right punishment.
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Onawayer
Onaway, MI
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Wonderful, thats a great example to set for all of the other junior idiots out there who will then know that they can get away with whatever they want with only a wrist slap if they say they are sorry and will have to live with the "guilt" for the rest of their lives. Ever notice how people always have "remorse" when facing a judge? Mommybee, you hush your mouth, now! Your opinion doesn't count because you've proven yourself time and time again to be a blatering idiot. Now, run off and make more welfare babies. But first, grab me a beer. NOW.
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“Ignorence is bliss! ”
Joined: Apr 22, 2009
Comments: 84
Onaway
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Onaway, MI
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Get a life onawayer! I wasnt talking to you, If anyone is an idiot its you! your an alcholic slob with nothing better to do than post incendarary posts! who cares if I spell things wrong! I dont! your sure cant spell a dang thing! That poor kid doesnt need life in prison or "the book" Community service roveked license and probation would do just fine.
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Onawayer
Onaway, MI
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Ohhhhhhhh, I feel so, so, so, sorry for your poor children. :(
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Joined: May 10, 2009
Comments: 20
Onaway
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Battle Creek, MI
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I think he should be harshly punished, his carelessness took 3 lives and destroyed many others. I say give him at least 5 years, so he knows he served his time and he has time to think about what he did, while he is in lock up, he can take his collage classes and get some Counseling. he cant just walk away with a slap on the wrist. think about if this boys carelessness took a member of your family? would you want him to walk away with him just having his DL taken away?NOT ME..Im not taking any sides, I dont know the boy or the people he killed. all I know is what I read on here and see in the news.
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Joined: May 10, 2009
Comments: 20
Onaway
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Battle Creek, MI
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at the beginning of these post, I saw someone ask "What if they were your children?" so I thought about it and yeah it would be devastating to see one of my children go to prison. but what would be more devastating is if one of my children were killed, so okay my son may have to go to prison for a few years, I can call him, he can call me, we can write each other,and best of all I can visit him, and wrap my arms around him and give him a hug and tell him I love him, at least he is alive. I have to say though, I hope by the time my child reaches the age to be able to drive, I hope I will have taught him not to drive irresponsible, also when my son goes to school he will stay there until the end of the day, if he wants lunch I will pack him one. no parent wants to see their children in so much trouble. I know I wouldnt, BUT I could never go to the courts and BEG the judge for pardon on my child. knowing there is going to be people in that court room that can never see their family again...he will not get life in prison at the most he will probably only get 5 years.
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“Ignorence is bliss! ”
Joined: Apr 22, 2009
Comments: 84
Onaway
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Onaway, MI
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Even if he gets prison time ,which I hope he doesnt. I think they should never give him back his license.
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