Police Ammo In Short Supply

Police Ammo In Short Supply

There are 70 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Jun 23, 2007, titled Police Ammo In Short Supply. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

June 24, 2007 By ANN MARIE SOMMA , Courant Staff Writer The police need bullets.

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CAG

West Hartford, CT

#1 Jun 24, 2007
Some one didn't do her research. Although the cost of all ammunition has increased because of increases in the price of raw materials, there is no shortage of .40, .45, or 9mm ammunition. Go to any gun store in the country and you will see that. It may be more than you are used to paying, but you can get it. As far as the 55grain bullet used in the military m16s is concerned, that is the green tip armor piercing round which is made by lake city. I do believe there is a shortage of that. Regular fmj (full metal jacket)in either 50 or 55 grain is readily available.
Farfel

Harwinton, CT

#2 Jun 24, 2007
This article is a joke. There is no need for cops to train with 55-grain full metal jacket .223-caliber bullets. Give us a break. There are lots of substitute rounds for practice. Plus cops can lose a few pounds making their own reloads.

There is no ammo shortage. There is a shortage of intelligence in law enforcement and in journalism.
Common Sense

Litchfield, CT

#4 Jun 24, 2007
Farfel wrote:
Plus cops can lose a few pounds making their own reloads.
I have to agree with this one. When I was young, and poor... I HAD to reload my own bullets, and shotgun shells, if I wanted to continue my hobby of target (or skeet) shooting. At every gun club I was invited to, there were buckets of empty shells that were collected for that purpose.
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I can certainly understand not wanting to use reloads in a service weapon (while on duty, I want to know that the bullet I am shooting will not be a dud)... But for practice? Why not? Bottom line... cops nowadays are spoiled.
Konnecticut_Bett er_Yet

Brewster, NY

#6 Jun 24, 2007
Civilian police, especially Connecticut ones, have no goddamn business having military weapons. That's why we have a national guard. Police are (supposed to be) CIVILIAN, NOT para-military.
Konnecticut_Bett er_Yet

Brewster, NY

#7 Jun 24, 2007
Besides, the only thing a .223 is good for is shooting coyotes.
mike

Manchester, CT

#8 Jun 24, 2007
the cops should just go to wal*mart.

WWB = Winchester White Box. I pay about $15 per 100 rounds of 9mm.

(ps, anyone know a good place to shoot in CT, east of the river?)
Scrw U Mr K

United States

#10 Jun 24, 2007
Konnecticut_Better_Yet wrote:
Civilian police, especially Connecticut ones, have no goddamn business having military weapons. That's why we have a national guard. Police are (supposed to be) CIVILIAN, NOT para-military.


First - it's paramilitary, not para-military.

Second - "paramilitary" refers to a civilian force like a SWAT team.

Third - the police face dangerous felons who, on occasion, are armed with assault style weapons, and so have a legitimate need for these weapons and ammo. Without them they would face situations where they are out gunned and calling the National Guard every time some low life with an AK robs a bank is probably not going to work.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/paramilitary

Steve

Ludlow, MA

#11 Jun 24, 2007
At least there will be fewer innocent black kids getting shot. And I agree with Konnecticut_Better_Yet, cops are civilia. If we invested in preventative resources and focus on strengthening families and communities, instead of being reactionary there'd be less need for bullets anyway.

Since: Apr 07

Tolland

#12 Jun 24, 2007
Eh don't call the National Guard in to help---they are worthless---trust me my husband's one of them
Mildred

Windsor, CT

#13 Jun 24, 2007
Need ammo? Just go to Hartford or New Haven. Plenty to be had in these two great cities. As for cops having military weapons I say good for them. Maybe a few nukes even to control the violence as well. Lets support the men and women who protect us and let them have any weapon that will do the job!! Thank God they are around and willing.
JUDGE AND JURY

East Haven, CT

#14 Jun 24, 2007
Farfel wrote:
This article is a joke. There is no need for cops to train with 55-grain full metal jacket .223-caliber bullets. Give us a break. There are lots of substitute rounds for practice. Plus cops can lose a few pounds making their own reloads.
There is no ammo shortage. There is a shortage of intelligence in law enforcement and in journalism.
Dumbo: Go to Hoffmans if you are allowed to purchase ammo and try to buy military surplus or generic rifle ammo in .223 55 gr. You apparently do not understand ballistics and firearms and reloading. Your remark about police officers loosing weight reloading is uncalled for and typical of your diminished mental capacity. However if it was not for liability and ambulance chasing lawyers reloading could be done by armorers and other small companies. Google Black Hills Ammunition. Their ammo is readilly available but more expensive than the generic 55 gr. USA produced ammo or remanufactured ammo and military surplus. It all comes down to the cost for training police officers and shipping our precious military defense metals to China. It is time we open our strategic metal reserves for the military and produce the copper and lead from our natural resources we need. The other alternatine is to have police departments contract out to local commercial reloaders which are around or train armorers to reload or change the rifles to readily available cartridges.The components are readilly available. Shoot the military surplus powder, bullets and casings that are available to the public. Remington, Winchester and Federal all make .223 ammo plus the Israeli Military Industrial complex. Stop shifting jobs overseas to China because this is the fault also of big American business.
The last time I checked the military was shooting 62 gr. Nato green tip .223 ammo. If I was in my twenties I would start an armory producing this type of .223 ammo and also .308. This ammo is also essential to tactical shooters for military personel and police SWAT teams. Some Yankee ingenuity is needed to solve this problem and not overseas dependence. Bring back the Brass City and New England defense manufacturing concerns our nation once had.The cost of war now has a high price that is affecting everyone at home.
Bryce

East Hartford, CT

#15 Jun 24, 2007
Another whining police article, wonder if it has anything to do with budget cuts. Scare em in giving us more money
What

Beacon Falls, CT

#16 Jun 24, 2007
I'm just wondering why this #1 is important news and #2 the public needs to know?
Miles Kim

AOL

#17 Jun 24, 2007
The criminals certainly seem to have plenty of ammo. Maybe the cops can borrow a cup from them?
Miles Kim

AOL

#18 Jun 24, 2007
Next, they'll be saying they don't have enough guns. Didn't we just close several historic gun manufacturers after several articles discussed suing them into oblivion. Make up your mind, people! Do you want guns in our society or not?!
JUDGE AND JURY

East Haven, CT

#19 Jun 24, 2007
Miles Kim wrote:
Next, they'll be saying they don't have enough guns. Didn't we just close several historic gun manufacturers after several articles discussed suing them into oblivion. Make up your mind, people! Do you want guns in our society or not?!
Are we going to defend ourselves with computer keyboards vs. the gangsters, criminals and terrorists in the Middleeast without firearms? It was the cities like Hartford, New Haven Bridgeport who initiated those suits. Would you keep your business in CT if you were the owner. Good bye More CT jobs. Thanks big city mayors!
Are you kidding me

Ridgefield, CT

#20 Jun 24, 2007
There is no shortage of ammo. The gangbangers have it all.
Onlooker

United States

#21 Jun 24, 2007
Many of you are cowards who would never say the things you say here to someone's face. Continue hiding behind your computer screen keyboard warriors. Grow a set.
The Rifleman

East Haven, CT

#22 Jun 24, 2007
Bryce wrote:
Another whining police article, wonder if it has anything to do with budget cuts. Scare em in giving us more money
Ammo is cheap, life is cheap for the stret gangsterts. The cost of gas does not go down far and the cost fo metals are up. Do you want to be self protective with a knife or club. Join the Brady Bunch. It has nothing to due with budget cuts; the cost of living gets higher because of big business profits. Imagine Hartford,New Britain Bridgeport, Waterbury and New Haven without a police force. It would be like the "WILD WEST" gangster vs. law biding citizen. Just like the movie Escape From New York City". Thank the Lord for the Police and the Colt AR 15 and tactical squads to remove these cancerts from society. You would be the keyboard commando typing 150 WPM whining about your stolen or damaged property you liberal Sarah Brady puke. What good is the monet if you are dead? You never see a hearse towing a U-Haul full of money to a grave sight. Are you the same type of person who complains about the high cost of diesel for the fire trucks when your house is burning down and you did not pay the fire tax to the volunteer fire dept district.?
The Rifleman

East Haven, CT

#23 Jun 24, 2007
Steve wrote:
At least there will be fewer innocent black kids getting shot. And I agree with Konnecticut_Better_Yet, cops are civilia. If we invested in preventative resources and focus on strengthening families and communities, instead of being reactionary there'd be less need for bullets anyway.
All great in your socialist liberal world. Get real. W hat are you going to do when the wolf is at your door? Tell them you need medication when they home invade your house. We need more Paul Kirsey's to protect their homes and families. You can always replace the material goods.

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