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#33457 Dec 20, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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Yep, I was correct...
"it seems the top 10% and the middle class have a relatively similar tax burden."
If one considers a 25% difference in the actual rates "relatively similar".
"10% pay only a few percentage points higher "
If one considers 6 actual percentage points "a few".
As another example, if two people make $100 and one pays $2 in taxes and the other pays $1 in taxes, one person is paying a rate that is twice that of the other...
Uh, Nope. You're quite incorrect. But what's new?

There wouldn't be a 25% "difference in the actual rates" as you suggest. The top 10 percent and the middle class would be paying on different $$ amounts - so it's apples and oranges. Just like in your example they'd have to be paying different tax rates on the same amount of income - but that's not real life, is it!!

The top 10 percent pays 30%, the middle class pays 24%(if we're to take those numbers on faith) That means exactly what it suggests - the richest taxpayers only pay 6% more of their earnings than the middle class does on theirs (on average) The comparison between the $$ amounts paid is a completely separate matter.

Argue all you want that the richest shouldn't pay a higher rate, but don't try to convince others than the rates are other than what they are.

As they say, lies, damn lies and statistics:(

Since: Jan 10

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#33458 Dec 20, 2013
Troll Man wrote:
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Also, I would point out that it depends on your definition of the word "burden." As I use the word, it does not equate to the amount of taxes paid, as you suggest.
For example, if a person weighed 100 pounds and carried a load of 50 pounds, their burden would be the same as a 200 pound person carrying 100 pounds. Obviously, the smaller guy is carrying 50% less than the big guy, but their burden in the same. Maybe others apply different meanings to "burden" than I.
Yes, if one were to define "burden" as a load's % of one's weight, both would be a 50% burden in the above example.

And, no, I don't equate burden to the amount of taxes paid, I equate it to the tax rate paid. A 30% tax burden is 25% higher than a 24% tax burden.

It's kinda difficult to compare $300K in taxes paid by someone with $1 million in taxable income with someone paying $12K in taxes on $50K in taxable income. Note that the rates in this example are nowhere near reflective of the real world, a single person would have to have taxable income of around $160K before their federal taxes would be 24% of their taxable income (and their earnings would be higher than $160K).

Since: Jan 10

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#33459 Dec 20, 2013
Rich Redneck II wrote:
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Uh, Nope. You're quite incorrect. But what's new?
There wouldn't be a 25% "difference in the actual rates" as you suggest. The top 10 percent and the middle class would be paying on different $$ amounts - so it's apples and oranges. Just like in your example they'd have to be paying different tax rates on the same amount of income - but that's not real life, is it!!
The top 10 percent pays 30%, the middle class pays 24%(if we're to take those numbers on faith) That means exactly what it suggests - the richest taxpayers only pay 6% more of their earnings than the middle class does on theirs (on average) The comparison between the $$ amounts paid is a completely separate matter.
Argue all you want that the richest shouldn't pay a higher rate, but don't try to convince others than the rates are other than what they are.
As they say, lies, damn lies and statistics:(
Apparently math isn't your strong suit...Seriously.

For example, if one pays a 2% tax rate and another pays a 1% tax rate, you have two "items":

One person pays ONLY a 1% higher tax rate (2-1) AND one pays a rate double of what the other pays (2/1).

"The top 10 percent pays 30%, the middle class pays 24%(if we're to take those numbers on faith) That means exactly what it suggests - the richest taxpayers only pay 6% more of their earnings than the middle class does on theirs (on average) The comparison between the $$ amounts paid is a completely separate matter."

A 30% tax burden is 25% higher than a 24% tax burden. Divide 30 by 1.25, what do you get? 24.

30 is 25% higher than 24. A 30% tax rate is 25% higher than a 24% tax rate.

"Argue all you want that the richest shouldn't pay a higher rate"

I don't.

Since: Jan 10

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#33460 Dec 20, 2013
BTW, even though math isn't your strong suit, thanks for posting under a registered name, if you continue to post that way, people will know who their "speaking" with, unlike those that constantly change their names...

Since: Sep 13

Columbus, GA

#33461 Dec 20, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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More breaking news! Beounce has dropped a new album!!!!! Stop the world! It has been reported on the NATIONAL News! Now THAT'S important. Can you imagine? She KEPT IT A SECRET! Holy spit, Batman! What a woman! Let's all run out an buy it! NOW! I've not heard anything as important since Obama was elected. Whew! Beounce + Obama HAVE saved the country afterall. Wow! THAT was a close one.
See? As I see the world in a comedic light, you have now given me a new joke. A Columbus police officer pulls over a man for having a tag light out. He asks the man if he would consent to a search of his vehicle, which the man say "sure". The officer pulls out a CD case full of marijuana, and asks the man "What is this?" The man replies "that is my Beyonce CD, and inside it Beounce". Told ya I wasn't right in the head. lol

Since: Sep 13

Columbus, GA

#33462 Dec 20, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
BTW, even though math isn't your strong suit, thanks for posting under a registered name, if you continue to post that way, people will know who their "speaking" with, unlike those that constantly change their names...
I have never changed my name.:D

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Tempe, AZ

#33463 Dec 20, 2013
ster402005 wrote:
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Why would I need links, when I can think for myself, rather than listen to the mindless babble of a complete doof? You should take a day off, sit in silence listening to classical music, and evaluate your OWN beliefs, rather than those you read on your little sites you visit. You may find out a lot about yourself that you didn't know. Unless, of course, you are already brainwashed beyond all recognition.

So far you've only offered rants about other posters in a childish petulant way, looking for more candy to sweeten your sour disposition.

I'll respond to you no more, as you offer nothing worthy of responding too.

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Since: Sep 13

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#33464 Dec 20, 2013
there wrote:
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So far you've only offered rants about other posters in a childish petulant way, looking for more candy to sweeten your sour disposition.
I'll respond to you no more, as you offer nothing worthy of responding too.
THANK YOU! Just when I was beginning to believe there isn't a Santa Claus, you show up out of nowhere and give me the best Christmas gift I have ever gotten. Merry Christmas to you, and thank you for saving me from having to read anything you think you know. I'd send you a fruitcake, but you already fit the bill.

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#33465 Dec 20, 2013
ster402005 wrote:
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THANK YOU! Just when I was beginning to believe there isn't a Santa Claus, you show up out of nowhere and give me the best Christmas gift I have ever gotten. Merry Christmas to you, and thank you for saving me from having to read anything you think you know. I'd send you a fruitcake, but you already fit the bill.
Your crazy a$$ would make a preacher cuss...:(
Did you tell Santa what I wanted for Christmas?*grinnin*

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Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#33466 Dec 20, 2013
the truth wrote:
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Buffett is actually very much in favor of fixing the income tax system so people like himself do pay a fair share. What he is not is stupid and will use every tax loophole he can find, just like his competition does.
He has spoken about this tax inequity many times and has encouraged the administration to do something about it. The comparison of what a rich man pays vs what his secretary pays came from Buffett. Buffett doesn't need or want his 15 minutes and could care less what people of your ilk think of him. You know very little about the man, your putdown statement 'coming from him' is just more of your warped political viewpoint. He is making the effort that very few people in his position would ever do. Ever heard the gods your worship the Koch brothers say such a thing, NO.
This capital gains argument is total BS, lots of folks income comes from capital gains like your alter ego Bills comes from McDonalds.
Your an idiot! The government had been trying to get Buffett to pay back taxers for since 2002 . The Feds claim he owes a Billion dollars in back taxes. Just look it up on the Web yourself if you don't believe my post. It was all over the news this last year. Sure he wants to pay his fair share, just as much as you and I want to pay 10,000 times our actual owed taxes. When are you ever going to realize that talk is cheap? Darn if you don't believe everything you hear. I still have that bridge for sale in Brooklyn.
http://www.newsmax.com/headline/buffett-irs-b...
there

Tempe, AZ

#33467 Dec 20, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
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Your an idiot! The government had been trying to get Buffett to pay back taxers for since 2002 . The Feds claim he owes a Billion dollars in back taxes. Just look it up on the Web yourself if you don't believe my post. I still have that bridge for sale in Brooklyn.
http://www.newsmax.com/headline/buffett-irs-b...

Now you know why I call him ugly eve.
there

Tempe, AZ

#33468 Dec 20, 2013
Merry Christmas from Obsmacare.....

Insurance cancelled?
Have no fear, you are now exempt from the penalty for 2014 if your insurance was cancelled and you don't buy a policy for 2014......

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702...
breaking the doctors

Winston, GA

#33469 Dec 20, 2013
the plan is to financially ruin the empires of the doctors so the progressives can get all the masses to vote them in forever.
they have to break all wealth to control all equally in their tyranny net.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#33470 Dec 20, 2013
ster402005 wrote:
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See? As I see the world in a comedic light, you have now given me a new joke. A Columbus police officer pulls over a man for having a tag light out. He asks the man if he would consent to a search of his vehicle, which the man say "sure". The officer pulls out a CD case full of marijuana, and asks the man "What is this?" The man replies "that is my Beyonce CD, and inside it Beounce". Told ya I wasn't right in the head. lol
lololololol Okay. I am laughing OUT LOUD!+1

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#33471 Dec 20, 2013
breaking the doctors wrote:
the plan is to financially ruin the empires of the doctors so the progressives can get all the masses to vote them in forever.
they have to break all wealth to control all equally in their tyranny net.
Yep! You are correct.
there

Tempe, AZ

#33472 Dec 21, 2013

Obamacare fix is only good for a year..........Michele says Obama is only good for a minute..........


"Of course, like every other exemption from Obamacare the latest fix is supposed to last only a year, raising the prospect that people will be kicked off their catastrophic coverage as soon as the 2014 election is safely in the political rear-view mirror. "

A panacea for demos up for re-election........

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/366828/w...


“Registered Conservative”

Since: Jul 11

Draketown, GA

#33473 Dec 21, 2013
there wrote:
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Start from scratch, and eliminate all loopholes, for everyone and all businesses........
or better yet, go back to when the Fed taxes first stared and let all businesses pay the tax..........
Fairtax does that.
there

Tempe, AZ

#33474 Dec 21, 2013
"Obama partly Repeals ObamaCare."

Whoever said a man couldn't birth a baby..........


He owns this monster baby, a baby from hell with screaming lungs saying "feed me, feed me."


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142...




there

Tempe, AZ

#33475 Dec 21, 2013

Hit the road Jack ad don't come back no more, no more, no more.......no more.........

Obama, Goodbye for now..........


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/us/politics...

Constipation sets in again..........

there

Tempe, AZ

#33476 Dec 21, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Fairtax does that.

Not really, only for poor folks........

Are you absolutely sure you're not promoting the fair tax?

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