Randolph sheriff seeks deputies

Curt Hodges The Sun Randolph County Sheriff Gary Tribble talks with Justice of the Peace Scott Baltz following Thursday night's quorum court meeting.

[dawgman]

I think the deputies in randolph co. are doing an excellent job. and at times are under appreciated by the public and at times are taken for granted. Good job guys for doing a good job .

[lyle makit]

I think the drug task force is doing a fantastic job. There getting the cookers in a very secret fashion . I see it all the time. good Job

[Vic]

Whatever. You need to take off them rose colored glasses you are looking through. This is the most corrupt county and city I have ever seen. 98% of the cops here do not do their jobs. I have had alot of dealings with the police system in the town and county, and they are a joke. I have never been arrested,I have never been in jail. But God forbid, if you ever go to the cops with a problem. You have to go outside of this town, and bring someone else in to get something done. Call the cops in this town about drug activity, and you might as well be talking to a brick wall. Thank God for DTF or no one would ever get busted.

[Vic]

I know this girl that got busted cooking Meth with her child in the house. Three months later after DHS gave the child back to her, there was a baseball game, and the cops kids was on the same team as her kid. The cop ask her how she was doing now. Of course she said she had straightened up. And he said to her,"Good. I knew you was running dope, I was just hoping you wasn't doing it with him in the car. Now, if he knew what she was doing, and seen her with the kid in the car at 2 and 3 o'clock in the morning, why didn't he bust her????? Good Job Mr. Cop. And good job DHS for putting the child back into an abusive situation.

[sandybeach1990]

hey dumbass vic...maybe if you brought proof to the cops instead of just accusations I know they would do something about it..the police can't just go and arrest someone because someone else told them they were doing drugs..the way the laws work nowadays the criminals have more rights than the police do. so if your smart enough go to them with proof. also if your so smart why don't your run for mayor. if u win you can run the city police. but with your attitude and lack of intellegence i'm your sure you wouldn't even come close to winning...

[Vic]

People that use profanity are just down right ignorant. sandybeach. You need to work on your reading and comprehension skills. As I said, I have had a lot of dealings with the cops in this town, as I stated. At one point I went to the cops and told them about a drug dealer. They gave me a tape recorder, and I went in and got the information, on tape. I then listened to the tape, and it was very clear. I got the guys name, what he was selling, and how much he was selling it for. The day I turned it over to the cops, that night the guy moved out of town. No arrest was made. And another thing for your information, I know more about the LAW than you will ever know. I am also willing to risk my life trying to get something done about the drugs in this town. I'm willing to risk my life to save the little children from these people. More people should be so willing, then maybe we wouldn't have such a bad problem for our children to face growing up. I know exactly how the law works. I know what the cops can and can't do, and I know the criminals are protected. But when the cops have proof and do nothing, thats on them.

[Mackey]

sandybeach1990 wrote:

hey dumbass vic...maybe if you brought proof to the cops instead of just accusations I know they would do something about it..the police can't just go and arrest someone because someone else told them they were doing drugs..the way the laws work nowadays the criminals have more rights than the police do. so if your smart enough go to them with proof. also if your so smart why don't your run for mayor. if u win you can run the city police. but with your attitude and lack of intellegence i'm your sure you wouldn't even come close to winning...

Hey SandyBeach,
If you knew anything about anything you would know that it is not the peoples place to provide proof, It is the peoples place to notify the police of accusations. and it is their job to provide proof, so you need to learn your law before you start calling names or pointing fingers. Have you even looked up the word idiot? You might do that and then look at who is the real idiot. If you have anything else smart to say just let me know. But I dont count on that happening because you dont know shit about what your talking about.

[Mackey]

SandyBeach
You talk some big shit, but that is exactly what it is, is SHIT.

[game]

sandybeach must be the police

[I hate crackheads]

Ok, I just can't help but to reply to this. Vic, you've made some good points and I commend you on your attempt to help the police. A tape recording of a conversation with the dope dealer is only admissable as evidence to gain a search warrant if the informant is recognized by the public as an upstanding citizen as a whole. Otherwise the informant must prove his liability with a minimum of 2 seperate instances. So as far as your audio tape you would have to fit into one of the 2 situations described. Now for you, Mackey, you must be lacking in knowledge of the role of concerned citizens. For a search warrant to be issued for a certain location there must be evidence provided within the search warrant affidavit. How is this made possible? It's made possible by several different ways with the biggest part being played by a concerned citizen or confidential informant. Without the help of those, search warrants would almost become extinct.

[I hate crackheads]

Correction on my previous post: should have read "prove his reliablity" Yes, I do admit when i make mistakes ;)

[Vic]

Thank you Mr. I hate crackheads, for your commendations. I don't understand this statement about the public recognizing an informant as an upstanding citizen as a whole. Are under cover cops known by the public? I would think not, or how effect would they be doing their jobs. I will tell you that I have never been arrested, never been in jail, and never been on drugs. I will also tell you that since this incident, I have went out of this town, and have had a lot of success. Also before this incident, they're were more than 2 other incidents, that were successful. I just happened to go to the local authorities on this one, that did not work. And I did learn my lesson from that one time. I now always go out of town. I also know it's hard for cops of any kind to make a drug bust, even tho it's going on right under their noses. I also know a lot of drug bust are made, because they bust people, and let them go, if they will be the people to go in and bring information to the police. Which is fine in my book. I don't care how they do it, as long as it gets done. I also know, that the cops in this town know who is on drugs, who's making it, who's selling it, and who is buying. All they have to do is watch, and when these people go to a known drug house, stop them, and waala, you have your drug informant. How hard is that. Every one knows drug addicts will tell on other drug addits just to stay out of jail themselves.

[Question]

They did a great job investigating all the folks Billy Green killed didnt they. That little Elliot girl was left to die in the heat and the locals thought that it was a murder suicide. Willard Houge enough said

[Vic]

Yea, it only took them how many "YEARS" ?
And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the solution for the murders come from Chad Green telling on Billy Green, while he was in jail on unrelated charges, and wasn't there a police officer sent out there earlier that night, and found nothing wrong?

[Vic]

Oh, hold up, I have been thinking! When I go to the people I go to, I don't have proof. I just tell them what I suspect, and they get the proof.
I have another question for you, Mr. I hate crackheads. If the tape was not sufficient enough evidence, why did the police give it to me to use in the house, and told me what information to get while I was in there. Are you saying they intentionaly risk my life for nothing? Also I don't believe Mackey is wrong. It is not the people's place to prove anything. If I call the police and tell them I was just at a house and I seen someone murder someone, do I have to prove it before they come?

[I hate crackheads]

Ok Vic, I can answer your questions. I didn't say that the recording was not sufficient evidence. I said that it has to be from a reliable source such as an "upstanding citizen" or proven confidential informant. In your case, according to you, you may be an "upstanding citizen" and that would qualify the recording as sufficient evidence. I'm not trying to defend the reasoning of the failure to use the recording. I'm just simply explaining the procedures that must be used according to law. Is it the people's place to provide proof? A phone call to the police notifying them of your concerns is a great move. Unfortunately that does not always pan out. Many concerned citizens tend to want to make 1 call and leave it at that. The average patrol officer cannot stake out a residence, or commercial building in some cases, for hours attempting to "catch" a possible doper coming out to make a traffic stop on. This is not always possible for numerous reasons with some being; marked patrol cars are hard to hide, other calls coming in that have to be responded to, and basic routine patrol around all of town has to be done. That is where the DTF comes into play but then again they are limited in manpower. So, that's where the "people" come into play. Informants with personal knowledge, not just accusations, play a vital role in the war on drugs. Do you really think that the bigger depts such as State Police, DEA, ATF rely solely on information gathered on officers observation? Absolutely not! They also use "people" otherwise known as informants to help complete the task of completing a successful drug arrest. As I said in my previous post, without the help of the non-law enforcement help in getting the evidence, the drug war would be alot more lopsided than it is now.

[soldier]

lyle makit wrote:

I think the drug task force is doing a fantastic job. There getting the cookers in a very secret fashion . I see it all the time. good Job

Question? If those who are arrested become a matter of public record, how can the DTF get the cookers in a secret fashion? Would'nt the "public" court records relflect arrested by DTF? hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

[soldier]

Vic wrote:

Whatever. You need to take off them rose colored glasses you are looking through. This is the most corrupt county and city I have ever seen. 98% of the cops here do not do their jobs. I have had alot of dealings with the police system in the town and county, and they are a joke. I have never been arrested,I have never been in jail. But God forbid, if you ever go to the cops with a problem. You have to go outside of this town, and bring someone else in to get something done. Call the cops in this town about drug activity, and you might as well be talking to a brick wall. Thank God for DTF or no one would ever get busted.

Vic, you are a joke. The local officers put their lives on the line daily while you lay at home safe in your bed hiding from the dangers of society. County the officers killed in local county and city in the last 30 years. Ask their family if they who gave their lives to keep you safe were a joke. I would like to hear from you on specific arrests that were made in our county and city by outside authorities. As far as the DTF, how effective do your really think two agents are currently for 4 counties they now serve. You better thank God for your local authorities or you would not be seeing any arrests being made. Next time you open your mouth, be specific if you want people to believe what you have to say.

[soldier]

Vic wrote:

I know this girl that got busted cooking Meth with her child in the house. Three months later after DHS gave the child back to her, there was a baseball game, and the cops kids was on the same team as her kid. The cop ask her how she was doing now. Of course she said she had straightened up. And he said to her,"Good. I knew you was running dope, I was just hoping you wasn't doing it with him in the car. Now, if he knew what she was doing, and seen her with the kid in the car at 2 and 3 o'clock in the morning, why didn't he bust her????? Good Job Mr. Cop. And good job DHS for putting the child back into an abusive situation.

Vic, I guess you don't think people can be reformed and should not be given an opportunity to re-unite with their families. I guess your solution is simply to put a bullet in thier head. By the way, before you criticise Mr. Cop for not making an arrest, study your 4th Ammendment Rights pertaining to unlawful search and seizure. Or are you willing to give up your constitution rights so easily. I think not, but you are far to eager to excercise your rights of freedom of speech.

[soldier]

Vic wrote:

People that use profanity are just down right ignorant. sandybeach. You need to work on your reading and comprehension skills. As I said, I have had a lot of dealings with the cops in this town, as I stated. At one point I went to the cops and told them about a drug dealer. They gave me a tape recorder, and I went in and got the information, on tape. I then listened to the tape, and it was very clear. I got the guys name, what he was selling, and how much he was selling it for. The day I turned it over to the cops, that night the guy moved out of town. No arrest was made. And another thing for your information, I know more about the LAW than you will ever know. I am also willing to risk my life trying to get something done about the drugs in this town. I'm willing to risk my life to save the little children from these people. More people should be so willing, then maybe we wouldn't have such a bad problem for our children to face growing up. I know exactly how the law works. I know what the cops can and can't do, and I know the criminals are protected. But when the cops have proof and do nothing, thats on them.

Vic, it sounds like to me when you took the recorder in you must have bauched up the authorities investigation since he packed up and moved out of town soon after. You are like alot of the other informant / cop want a be's that go in to assist the authorities and screw things up for them. When you screwed things up for the authorities you did not just risk the little children's lives involved, but you risked the authorities lives as well. If you are not any good as an informant you would do better to find a different calling. Like most people though, instead of blaming yourself for your screw up, you will point the finger at the authorities. The difference is though is that they chose to serve the citizens full time rather than one time in trying to make a difference and stake their life day after day, year after year. Soldiers are to be respected for their sacrifices and the risk of losing their life for service to their country and may serve a tour of 3 or more years. Police have the same risks and make careers of it.