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whack

United States

#62 Jan 9, 2013
.Apparently richland you don't understand the steps teachers make to clear such classrooms when a child with issues has an outburst. The other students are first to be protected and said children are removed from classroom. You act like children with disabilities don't belong in public schools.
Richland 12

Evansville, IN

#63 Jan 10, 2013
I do understand what they have to do.....That was my point if you have over 30 kiddos in the room, one snaps, are you all by yourself going to be able to help the other 29++++ against an elementary kid? Middle schooler? High schooler? And do this all while helping any children with disabilities make their way to safety. It is not possible for one person to do it all. As a parent could you handle 30+++ children in your home, some with disabilities alone? This is why I am stating it makes this so much more dangerous to send our kids to school. Children with disabilities should be part of our schools and classes, however students not mentally prepared or willing to be part and violent behave as such need other plans, extra staff. Even those with disabilities that are willing need extra assistance.......1 person can not do this all......1 person can not be proficient in all disabilities and needs. That is way to much burden to hang around ones neck and will surely make the good teachers and public school system drown with the demands.

Sorry if you took this as something against special needs, not my nephew is mainstreamed with the help of an aide, PT, OT, and speech and he is not a behavior issue or aggressive. He however, is with students that are but have aides to assist and know their cues of stress.......1 person can not do all of this
They

Boonville, IN

#64 Jan 10, 2013
They are working on solutions now it's up to the supertendent
public speaks

Evansville, IN

#65 Jan 11, 2013
I have lived in Grandview for 10 years working in Spencer County for 15. My kids go to this school so I have been watching this feed and researching to find more.

The superintendent has her hands tied by a budget to run the school. And there are differing budgets for everything such as building, athletics, pay roll, etc. one account can not be used to pay for another's short comings.(or so this is my understanding talking to my child's teacher) I believe she has no other choice and has to make a business decision since the school can not just go out make, or borrow more money.(((Unless there are many of you out there willing to pay more for book rental, donate money, etc, out there:) I know I am not willing with the increase in taxes being held out of my pay, the price of gas, and the increase in groceries even a few bucks make a big difference.))))) So, She either has to have teachers retire or, yes the hard facts are that she will have to let people go. For every child that leaves to go to another school the budget gets worse. For every demand the state places on our superintendent more students leave. A cycle that keeps moving and does not offer our public schools a chance. I think that the teachers would be working to keep students just as small business work to keep customers. I know education is not a business but if that is how the state is going to treat it we must develop that mindset. We must change, and yes change is uncomfortable and hard but if there is no change eventually Darwinism takes over and weeds out that that is not working or able to keep up. I think this is what we are seeing here. If our students are going to learn on IPADS being taught through video and teacher lecture, this can all be done at home through K-12 with video lecturers, tools sent to your home, and computer work submitted in the same way as we are now having the high school do. All of this in safety with class free of distraction, danger, exposure to materials that I do not want for my children, and INDIVIDUALLY tailored to each child.

Work to help the students that need it most with meaningful interactions that are respectful and two sided no matter if the student is in trouble or being praised. Raising up our lowest students who have no one rather than just focusing on our top, and finally communication, I can't say it enough. This will make schools better, kids better, careers better, state outlook better and possibly save the public schools.

Otherwise online is cheaper on tax payers and less stressful to students that are burned out with the educational system by high school. They can learn at their own speed get extra help when needed and skip to more challenging material instead of being held back by others.

For those not doing this already you are the ones causing this to happen to this profession across the state. For those that are doing this thank you!!
well said

Newburgh, IN

#66 Jan 11, 2013
Great Points:

We have been giving this serious thought due to the lack or morals and discipline that is being taught in some homes. Unfortunately this approach to parenting affects my child when these children come to school and "educate" my first grader on the ways of the world. I do not blame the children for this or the schools but the lazy parents and a society that supports this. Time for change in the way we spend our money teach in our schools and support those that "can not/ or will not" support themselves.
Taking this seriously

Evansville, IN

#67 Jan 11, 2013
I understand what you're saying about online education, but so people cannot afford such things. A lot of parents in rockport cannot afford to put food on they're children's plate, money in they're lunch account, gas in their car, Internet, textbooks, clothing, hygiene, ect. Everything is expensive. That doesn't include the fact that some students cannot learn online. There are different learning techniques and some students have to be in the classroom, touching the book, holding a pencil, and hearing the teacher talk. Online learning is for children and young adults who are either self disciplined or they're parents rag them all the time. Adults in college can't even keep up with online learning because they don't know how to learn online. I'm just saying that they're isn't just one solution here.
well said

Evansville, IN

#68 Jan 11, 2013
It has been a great solution in the two children I know who stopped public education in middle school due to the high school environment. The oldest will graduate this year, a year early, and has already accepted two scholarships and been accepted to IU. His SAT scores were superb. It is all about scheduling, from this time to this time you need to do homework and classes on line. There is a schedule for classes on line too. With schedules of when to log in and be part of the online classroom and talk to your teachers and mentors. If your child can not listen to you about this they are not listening to you either to do their homework or study, and will not be able to make it in college on their own if they can not learn this by middle or high school.

Lets face it pencils and books will be in antique stores in the next few years as I have not seen any high school students carting those around just their IPAD. This is online learning that is housed in the public school.

K-12 is free and state supported.....some Other online schools can take the vouchers. There are benchmarks that students have to meet and teachers that talk to them daily to set deadlines. They also have a mentor that helps them with these deadlines, scheduling, and checks in with them via web cast or phone regularly. We are taking this seriously and have been interviewing and checking out this alternative since the end of last year. We have visited Saint Bernard's, Owensboro Catholic, and Evansville Day School as well as talked many times to K-12 representatives. All have been great and offer a more in depth curriculum and extra activities my kids are involved with. All are also exactly the same price to me as sending them to our public school.

I like to get the most for my dollar and this is no exception to my tax dollar. I am just sick of everything going on and how it affects my children.
concerned

Evansville, IN

#69 Jan 27, 2013
Has anything happened with this???

Been watching the papers but have seen nothing about this......
seriously specking

Bellevue, WA

#70 Jan 27, 2013
concerned wrote:
Has anything happened with this???
Been watching the papers but have seen nothing about this......
im not sure yet
concerned

Rockport, IN

#71 Jan 28, 2013
I am the one that originally posted this. But still have heard anything. I guess a lot of people have heard about this as well. I also have heard nothing on this matter. What would the next step be, Call the superintendants office? Or maybe we haven't heard anything because they decided everyone was getting to keep there jobs.
Hello

United States

#72 Feb 4, 2013
whoa wrote:
Well the reason they gave iPads to the students was a form seeing over everything that the kids do they get to read the text that they send, Facebook, twitter, anything that the kids do on the iPads is shown and they somewhat have control over the kids social lives by doing this
They are already taking away all our power as parents so why not take control over their social lives too. I think it is really sad how our teachers and Principals are behaving. Calling the police out to the school for every little thing and wanting students arrested for something as simple as a fight. What happened to the old days when you got suspended?? Now you can be arrested for a fight at school. These are our juveniles. They are called Juveniles for a reason. They are hormonal and shouldnt be arrested at the drop of a dime. Give me a break
Hello

United States

#73 Feb 4, 2013
concerned wrote:
I am the one that originally posted this. But still have heard anything. I guess a lot of people have heard about this as well. I also have heard nothing on this matter. What would the next step be, Call the superintendants office? Or maybe we haven't heard anything because they decided everyone was getting to keep there jobs.
Yes, Call the superintendants office. Or someone on the schoolboard
hi

Evansville, IN

#74 Feb 4, 2013
Hello wrote:
<quoted text>They are already taking away all our power as parents so why not take control over their social lives too. I think it is really sad how our teachers and Principals are behaving. Calling the police out to the school for every little thing and wanting students arrested for something as simple as a fight. What happened to the old days when you got suspended?? Now you can be arrested for a fight at school. These are our juveniles. They are called Juveniles for a reason. They are hormonal and shouldnt be arrested at the drop of a dime. Give me a break
It's teaching them how the real world is, if you get in a fight in public as an adult you're not gonna get suspended from that public location, instead you'll be thrown in jail for assault, battery, etc
Funny

United States

#75 Feb 5, 2013
hi wrote:
<quoted text>
It's teaching them how the real world is, if you get in a fight in public as an adult you're not gonna get suspended from that public location, instead you'll be thrown in jail for assault, battery, etc
Thus, is why I said, "Juveniles" fighting not adults fighting in the public. plus I used fighting as an example. Would you want your child arrested for disorderly conduct for yelling down the hall? I think not. Juvenile courts and adult courts are very different. Two different things.
whack

United States

#76 Feb 5, 2013
Funny wrote:
<quoted text>
Thus, is why I said, "Juveniles" fighting not adults fighting in the public. plus I used fighting as an example. Would you want your child arrested for disorderly conduct for yelling down the hall? I think not. Juvenile courts and adult courts are very different. Two different things.
so true that's how they are. God forbid they break a pencil or crumple their paper and throw it cuz the rockport finest will be called. Its nuts how they react over things that can be handled by them.. Ssms is a joke...
parent

Duluth, GA

#77 Feb 6, 2013
Hello wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, Call the superintendants office. Or someone on the schoolboard
I don't know why everyone keeps saying contact the school board. They are not going to do anything about anything. FACT..
S---Happens

Indianapolis, IN

#78 Feb 13, 2013
If they didn't spend millions of dollars on a NEW POOL and those stupid iPads they probably wouldn't have to cut hard working educators
at least get it straight

Evansville, IN

#79 Feb 14, 2013
S---Happens wrote:
If they didn't spend millions of dollars on a NEW POOL and those stupid iPads they probably wouldn't have to cut hard working educators
Different budgets for each of those, the IPAD money could not have been used for salaries nor could the funds that were used for the pool. There are separate funds and budgets for every aspect of the school. A budget for salaries, for athletics, building maintenance, etc. You can not dip into another fund because you are short in an area. I believe the ipads were funded in part by a grant and out of the technology budget so that is all the money could be used for. Agree it is a shame that there will be cuts but the state has tied the hands of the corporation, unless there are retirements of the oldest teachers that are taking up salaries of 2-3 young teachers.

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