Rockmart baseball team outside of Wal...
Gamer

Cedartown, GA

#21 Feb 10, 2013
DDT wrote:
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Duff needs to go.........gave brand new jerseys to the seniors leaving this year. When my son graduated they got thier practice jersey.
well for me thing, the baseball team is wearing crappy jerseys from two years ago. They look about as bad as the little league jerseys. Not fussing, just stating a fact. If it ain't football, they pass it over. It's a shame too, because those other teams put in hard work just like the football team .
Nope

Macon, GA

#22 Feb 11, 2013
DDT wrote:
Bulldog44 you're exactly right, watch how much the football program spends and how much do you see them fund raise ??? All the other sports has to beg borrow and steal for their money. It all goes back to the atheletic director, he also is the director for the middle school also so everything goes through Duff. Watch the cheerleaders and the softball girls during a football game. Selling programs and raffle tickets. The reason the cheerleaders don't have a competition at RHS is half the money raised goes to the football program and they don't even have to help with it.The new principal could put a halt to all of this if she has the courage to step up. She has the right ot fire and hire the director and head football coach.
Football does fundraisers. We used some $$ that Charvis didn't steal to support a young fellow last year. It was some kind of 'thon' thang.
NADA

Hiram, GA

#23 Feb 11, 2013
Nope wrote:
<quoted text>Football does fundraisers. We used some $$ that Charvis didn't steal to support a young fellow last year. It was some kind of 'thon' thang.
What was the fundraiser ? Last thing I remember were the Jacket cards that had all the local businesses on them. And giving money to a young fellow doesn't help the sports programs. If anything was given to a young fellow it should have been from donations not scholastic funds. The have the steak supper that all the sports support but money goes to football also..... I agree ,,, DUFF needs to go.
Euharleean

Jonesboro, GA

#24 Feb 11, 2013
bulldog44 wrote:
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So if your all about supporting local teams then why are you griping? And you say you hate for leadership adults put the kids up to ask for handouts? Really? Their not asking for handouts...they are asking for HELP! There is a difference! And you say you get nothing in return? What you should get is feeling proud that you are helping a LOCAL team and you are helping keep kids active in sports and activities so they won't have time to be on the streets doing God knows what! Let me tell you, these kids DO NOT have the mind set that they are OWED anything! And as far as teaching kids to work for what they want, well they did! Many of these kids also have JOBS they WORK at while going to school and being active in sports! They worked to earn their spot on this team! And I'll tell you another thing...there Coach does expects great things from them! And if you would have gave them $20 for a car wash or cupcake, they don't get to keep all the money! Asking for donations is the only way they can keep all the profit. But people like you would grip about that too! Do you think they like standing outside asking for help? NO! And as for as the athletic department, there is hardly ANY money left to help the rest of the sports at high school! Because of cut backs and budget cuts and not to mention the price of gas! That is why there is hardly any money left.
You are DEAD ON in your response here!!! Though I would also bet that it was a travel team, and not a school team. My daughter has played softball for close to 10 years now, and many times for travel ball we would do "helmet brigades" outside of local stores & businesses asking for donations. Typically when we would do fund-raisers for school ball there was some activity involved, car wash, selling items, etc......But we definitely have felt the budget cuts especially for sports other than football. The girls had to pay for their own practice uniforms, each girl was required to raise at least $500. There is a lot of funding required to effectively run a successful program. Our head HS coach worked on a volunteer basis, as he was not a school employee. He did it for the love of the game and to help those girls that want to play at the next level improve and succeed in their goals. He was an integral part in my daughters softball career. Softball and being active have been a blessing for my daughter, she loves the game, and all her hard work has paid off, as she will be playing on scholarship in college this fall! It has kept her busy, out of trouble, healthy, helped teach her leadership, sportsmanship among many other things and we owe a lot of thanks to the giving hearts of local businesses & citizens that helped her school, travel, and all-star teams with funding to play in big tournaments, where she could play at the highest level and get her exposure to college coaches, etc...... The majority of these kids are good kids, instead of being active in athletics, they could be out skipping school, breaking into your car, getting pregnant, partying, etc........If you don't want to give, that's fine, simply say "no thank you" and move along. Sheesh!
Howard

Acworth, GA

#25 Feb 11, 2013
Think the point being made is that it looks bad for the school but, hey, it should be a call for action to ask why the school's varsity baseball team is out asking for money to pay for its operation!! Parents - ask!!! Taxpayers - ask! Since when does the varsity team have to get out and beg for change outside of local stores? What a travesty! I do agree there are ways to earn it, though. Washing cars is good exercise, too. Times are tough all around but kids need to be taught we all have to earn our way in this world!
Preparing for whatever

United States

#26 Feb 11, 2013
DDT wrote:
Bulldog44 you're exactly right, watch how much the football program spends and how much do you see them fund raise ??? All the other sports has to beg borrow and steal for their money. It all goes back to the atheletic director, he also is the director for the middle school also so everything goes through Duff. Watch the cheerleaders and the softball girls during a football game. Selling programs and raffle tickets. The reason the cheerleaders don't have a competition at RHS is half the money raised goes to the football program and they don't even have to help with it.The new principal could put a halt to all of this if she has the courage to step up. She has the right ot fire and hire the director and head football coach.
I agree with you, but don't be surprised if Duff stays in his current role for the next 2 - 3 years. In fact, I would keep my eyes and ears open about this new principal, DeAnna Williams, too. If she actually does get rid of Duff due to publicity points, then be prepared for another Rockmart person to take his place with this continuing as we speak.
ILikeItHere

Fort Mitchell, AL

#27 Feb 11, 2013
Baseball mom wrote:
I think it's a real shame that people have to turn everything they see into an issue to gripe about. Let me remind you we live in a free country where you have the right to go on about your business and not donate money to who you choose. No one is forcing you to give up your money. If you choose to not support RHS baseball then don't. It takes money for all athletic organizations to survive. I'm sure the people who donated money on Saturday did so because they wanted to help and it was much appreciated by the players. I don't know why it cant be just left at that.
Awww Mom....I didn't mean to make you mad, I just wanted to make you think. I didn't give them anything only because I had no cash on me, if I did I would have. I could care less on what I get in return, whether my car is washed or if I'm munching on a doughnut, that wasn't my point. I just want our kids to learn that nothing is free and money should be earned. I'm not bashing or throwing off on them, it's just something that eats at me especially since the political climate is the way it is these days. I feel like we are losing our younger generation to the "entitlement" culture because that is what they see from us. Thanks for your opinion!
Truth

Tucker, GA

#28 Feb 11, 2013
Euharleean wrote:
<quoted text>You are DEAD ON in your response here!!! Though I would also bet that it was a travel team, and not a school team. My daughter has played softball for close to 10 years now, and many times for travel ball we would do "helmet brigades" outside of local stores & businesses asking for donations. Typically when we would do fund-raisers for school ball there was some activity involved, car wash, selling items, etc......But we definitely have felt the budget cuts especially for sports other than football. The girls had to pay for their own practice uniforms, each girl was required to raise at least $500. There is a lot of funding required to effectively run a successful program. Our head HS coach worked on a volunteer basis, as he was not a school employee. He did it for the love of the game and to help those girls that want to play at the next level improve and succeed in their goals. He was an integral part in my daughters softball career. Softball and being active have been a blessing for my daughter, she loves the game, and all her hard work has paid off, as she will be playing on scholarship in college this fall! It has kept her busy, out of trouble, healthy, helped teach her leadership, sportsmanship among many other things and we owe a lot of thanks to the giving hearts of local businesses & citizens that helped her school, travel, and all-star teams with funding to play in big tournaments, where she could play at the highest level and get her exposure to college coaches, etc...... The majority of these kids are good kids, instead of being active in athletics, they could be out skipping school, breaking into your car, getting pregnant, partying, etc........If you don't want to give, that's fine, simply say "no thank you" and move along. Sheesh!
It was the high school team. I am positive.
DDT

Jacksonville, FL

#29 Feb 11, 2013
Preparing for whatever wrote:
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I agree with you, but don't be surprised if Duff stays in his current role for the next 2 - 3 years. In fact, I would keep my eyes and ears open about this new principal, DeAnna Williams, too. If she actually does get rid of Duff due to publicity points, then be prepared for another Rockmart person to take his place with this continuing as we speak.
Supposedly he has 2 more after this years and he is going to retire. She'll never have the guts to cut him loose.
ILikeItHere

United States

#30 Feb 11, 2013
To Euharleean and bulldog44,

Again...the "giving" was not my point. It doesn't matter if it's the Travel team, High School team, Little League team, or church team, these fund raisers would be a great time to teach a child some life lessons before reality slaps them in the face a few years down the road.
DDT

Jacksonville, FL

#31 Feb 11, 2013
I've had to do both with my kids and I'd much rather sell something than ask for donations but you have to do what you have to do . I'm sure those kids would have rather have done something else but at least they did have the gumption to try to support their team regardless of the method, They could be out on the streets into some kind of trouble. You should support them either way .( ILIKEITHERE ) If you or your spouse were suddenly out of a job would you take unemployment ?
bulldog44

Rome, GA

#32 Feb 11, 2013
ILikeItHere wrote:
To Euharleean and bulldog44,

Again...the "giving" was not my point. It doesn't matter if it's the Travel team, High School team, Little League team, or church team, these fund raisers would be a great time to teach a child some life lessons before reality slaps them in the face a few years down the road.
Apparently that was your point or you would have not started this topic.
polkster

United States

#33 Feb 12, 2013
Heck one of the primary schools has kids bringing in change to pay for paint - we have hit rock bottom! What do they do with the money they make from selling crap? I hear they make a load off the ice cream!
NADA

Hiram, GA

#34 Feb 12, 2013
bulldog44 wrote:
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Apparently that was your point or you would have not started this topic.
Exactly 44 , they shouldn't be blaming the kids anyway. I'm sure it wasn't their idea to stand outside of Walmart. They were just doing what the coach said to do or what they had to do. They just need to shut up or pay up. Ever-dentally they didn't give and now feels guilty and trying to make themselves feel better. It's not the players fault they don't have money and that's whats wrong with this town , everybody wants to point blame but don't want to step up and do something......DUFF NEEDS TO GO.........
ILikeItHere

Fort Mitchell, AL

#35 Feb 12, 2013
NADA wrote:
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Exactly 44 , they shouldn't be blaming the kids anyway. I'm sure it wasn't their idea to stand outside of Walmart. They were just doing what the coach said to do or what they had to do. They just need to shut up or pay up. Ever-dentally they didn't give and now feels guilty and trying to make themselves feel better. It's not the players fault they don't have money and that's whats wrong with this town , everybody wants to point blame but don't want to step up and do something......DUFF NEEDS TO GO.........
I think it's useless to try and start a dialogue on Topix about anything. Most people read into it with the goal of what kind of antagonistic response can I come up with instead of offering an intelligent reply. I believe I could post that I was giving away money at the Rockmart McDonalds tonight at 7:00 and Topix people would still gripe, fuss, spit, argue, and criticize. Just my opinion but what do I know...:)
ILikeItHere

Fort Mitchell, AL

#36 Feb 12, 2013
DDT wrote:
I've had to do both with my kids and I'd much rather sell something than ask for donations but you have to do what you have to do . I'm sure those kids would have rather have done something else but at least they did have the gumption to try to support their team regardless of the method, They could be out on the streets into some kind of trouble. You should support them either way .( ILIKEITHERE ) If you or your spouse were suddenly out of a job would you take unemployment ?
Would I TAKE it, no. Would I accept it, yes. There is a difference.
Funny

Riverdale, GA

#37 Feb 12, 2013
Why don't y'all just send some money up their then they need money to put new uniforms with they been wearing the same one for over 7 years its about time we had new ones so quite talking about it and do something
Boomba

Cedartown, GA

#38 Feb 12, 2013
ILikeItHere wrote:
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I think it's useless to try and start a dialogue on Topix about anything. Most people read into it with the goal of what kind of antagonistic response can I come up with instead of offering an intelligent reply. I believe I could post that I was giving away money at the Rockmart McDonalds tonight at 7:00 and Topix people would still gripe, fuss, spit, argue, and criticize. Just my opinion but what do I know...:)
you are absolutely correct. There cannot be an intelligent conversation on Topix. It has to escalate into a name calling, barrage of insults and slander. And most of it is less than intelligent . Now to address this..the kids outside wal- mart .. Yes, they were High School Baseball Players . the coach deemed that , a Fundraiser.. The Baseball team and every other team ,( except football), play with mediocre equipment, unless student bought themselves, and wear older, outdated uniforms. The baseball team is wearing last years hand me downs. It may not have been the best approach to collecting money, but they were out there trying to help out their team . As for the comment above about " ice cream " making the school a fortune, well... You can thank mrs. President for her two cents. The kids are not allowed to buy ice cream now but once a week due to her health guidelines that she imposed.. Just a thought, controlling a child's ice cream and snack privilege...and wanting to take away your guns... Does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that we are slowly becoming socialists , even if it is by subtle , subliminal , behavioral manipulation.
NADA

Hiram, GA

#39 Feb 13, 2013
ILikeItHere wrote:
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Would I TAKE it, no. Would I accept it, yes. There is a difference.
NO DIFFERENCE , you would be accepting money that you did not get out and earn , and no you haven't earned it. It is the employers right to pay or not pay according to why you no longer have a job. The boys collecting at least got out and tried. You do not pay into unemployment and it is not a benefit it is a helping hand just the same. What would sell to or do to earn the check every week ?
ILikeItHere

Fort Mitchell, AL

#40 Feb 13, 2013
NADA wrote:
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NO DIFFERENCE , you would be accepting money that you did not get out and earn , and no you haven't earned it. It is the employers right to pay or not pay according to why you no longer have a job. The boys collecting at least got out and tried. You do not pay into unemployment and it is not a benefit it is a helping hand just the same. What would sell to or do to earn the check every week ?
On the surface you sound correct, here is the other side that few people understand: Yes the "employer" carries the full cost of unemployment insurance for the employee but that cost is considered when the employee's wage is set along with ALL other payroll taxes. Your wage as an employee would be quite a bit higher if not for these embedded expenses so in essence, the employee DOES shoulder the cost. Incidentally I own a "C" corporation which I am an employee of, so I DO pay for my own unemployment insurance therefore I would accept unemployment compensation (God forbid I need it!) just as I would accept a check from State Farm if I wrecked my truck.

And I'm not going to comment again on blaming the boys for collecting money, it's the work ethics idea that I originally posted about.

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