Obama Makes Threats, Concedes Little During Fiscal Cliff 'Negotiations'

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#1 Dec 26, 2012
While most media accounts of the fiscal cliff fiasco have focused on Republicans' travails, few have adequately noted Democrats' starring role in our current dysfunction. Harry Reid obstructed a vote on the president's plan, Nancy Pelosi whipped votes against her own erstwhile plan, and the president has fully retreated from ideas he supported as recently as last year. A pre-Christmas Wall Street Journal article walks readers through the failed negotiations, and two recurring themes are woven throughout:(1) Obama has zero interest in meaningful concessions on his end, and (2) Obama is supremely confident in his ability to stick Republicans with the blame if the economy slides off the cliff. As the president and the House Speaker begin one final attempt to strike some sort of a deal -- which may eventually pass with mostly Democrat votes -- here are a few nuggets from the Journal's thorough piece about how we've reached the precipice:

First, the entire reason our government faces giant crises every six months or so is that Democrats have abandoned the legally-mandated budget process. We no longer budget in this country -- we govern on a piecemeal, crisis-to-crisis basis. Second, even if the president got every single item he's asked for, his so-called solution would do nothing to avert our enormous, looming, terrifying fiscal avalanche.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/1...

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#2 Dec 26, 2012
Our hyper-partisan president's overwhelming interest seems to be crippling his political opponents, not fixing the problem.

He believes he has an electoral mandate, public opinion on his side, and the lions share of leverage. Economic outcomes are secondary. I'll leave you with two salient reminders:

***First, the entire reason our government faces giant crises every six months or so is that Democrats have abandoned the legally-mandated budget process. We no longer budget in this country -- we govern on a piecemeal, crisis-to-crisis basis.***

*** Second, even if the president got every single item he's asked for, his so-called solution would do nothing to avert our enormous, looming, terrifying fiscal avalanche.***
munum

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#3 Dec 26, 2012
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Geez more Tax Increases

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#5 Dec 27, 2012
Honkey the Cracker wrote:
Give it a rest white people, you hate Obama because he's black! Hopefully you white devils will see another day.(sigh)
Typical responce from a racist taker and bottomfeeder. BTW: Isn't Obozo 1/2 white? Seems like the only way you can defend him is by playing the race card.Guess you don't have any other way because he is ruining the country.

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#6 Dec 27, 2012
pigpen911 wrote:
<quoted text>Typical responce from a racist taker and bottomfeeder. BTW: Isn't Obozo 1/2 white? Seems like the only way you can defend him is by playing the race card.Guess you don't have any other way because he is ruining the country.
They have to play the race card, it's not like they can defend lil boobie's record
Oh wait, in some cultures in America complete failure is more than acceptable.

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#7 Dec 27, 2012
IescapedNY wrote:
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They have to play the race card, it's not like they can defend lil boobie's record
Oh wait, in some cultures in America complete failure is more than acceptable.
Ain't that da truth!
Ha Ha

Fairport, NY

#8 Dec 27, 2012
Hey! Obama has don SOOO much to aviod the Fiscal Cliff!
Look how he left his 200th vacation to Hawaii on taxpayer's dollars to be available to solve the problem.

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#9 Dec 27, 2012
Stocks are plummeting as we "speak". People realize the Dictator, formerly known as the President, can't touch it if it's stuffed under your mattress! SELL NOW!!!!

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#10 Dec 27, 2012
Steel City Steelers wrote:
Stocks are plummeting as we "speak". People realize the Dictator, formerly known as the President, can't touch it if it's stuffed under your mattress! SELL NOW!!!!
That is what the socilist/progressive anti-Americans want---to take down the country.Obama is leading the charge and loving every second of it.

“Reality is settling in...”

Since: Nov 08

Stop sweating the small stuff.

#11 Dec 27, 2012
Steel City Steelers wrote:
Stocks are plummeting as we "speak". People realize the Dictator, formerly known as the President, can't touch it if it's stuffed under your mattress! SELL NOW!!!!
SMDH.

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#12 Dec 27, 2012
CapriceClassic wrote:
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SMDH.
Why are you shaking your head, Classless??? I guess you would have to actually own stock to "get it".

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#14 Dec 27, 2012
rePIGpublican wrote:
Reguardless if these links you guys are putting up, I doubt this crap is even true. I have never seen a bunch of conservatives with a bunch of hate. The president did must have done something right, he was elected for another 4 years.
Good day folks!
Yup. He put more people on food stamps, gave out more welfare, put this country into a major recession (with another one right around the corner...the stock marke is crumbling (down 110 point as we "speak"....) soooo...yeah. He has done plenty. When this is all said and done, he will surpass Carter as the WORST fiscal president/dictator that this country has ever had.

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#15 Dec 27, 2012
Steel City Steelers wrote:
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Yup. He put more people on food stamps, gave out more welfare, put this country into a major recession (with another one right around the corner...the stock marke is crumbling (down 110 point as we "speak"....) soooo...yeah. He has done plenty. When this is all said and done, he will surpass Carter as the WORST fiscal president/dictator that this country has ever had.
Steve was correct about one thing,"Obama must of done something right",Obama sure did,he paid the takers and the loons for every vote he got with "entitlemt" programs and they are too dumb to know it.I wonder how they are going to react when the freebies are gone because the country is out of taxpayer's money? Want to bet then they will scream it is because he is 1/2 white or blame Bush? LOL

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#16 Dec 27, 2012
rePIGpublican wrote:
Reguardless if these links you guys are putting up, I doubt this crap is even true. I have never seen a bunch of conservatives with a bunch of hate. The president did must have done something right, he was elected for another 4 years.
Good day folks!
"I doubt this crap is even true"

Are you retarded? Obviously you don't have a clue whats going on with the fiscal cliff.

Typical LOW INFORMATION, UNINFORMED clueless Obama voter.

What a dumb, ignorant effing statement "I doubt this crap is even true"

Yep typical Obama voter.

Educate yourself FOOL.

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