Petition drive against benefit cards ...

Petition drive against benefit cards being used to buy booze, lottery tickets

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Right On

Naples, NY

#1 Oct 27, 2013
State Senator Michael H. Ranzenhofer has started a new campaign to protect taxpayer dollars by launching a petition drive to encourage the State Assembly to pass a bill that would prohibit Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) cards from being used by welfare recipients to purchase alcoholic beverages, lottery tickets and other non-essential items.

“While New Yorkers have always been willing to lend a helping hand to those in need, we don’t like seeing taxpayer money being wasted,” Ranzenhofer said.“There is no law to prevent public assistance from being used to purchase beer, cigarettes or lottery tickets. It’s time to close this loophole in State law.”

The Public Assistance Integrity Act (S.966) would prohibit using EBT cards for tobacco products, alcoholic beverages, lottery tickets, and ATM cash withdrawals at liquor stores and casinos. Senator Ranzenhofer is a cosponsor of the legislation. The bill passed the State Senate on June 18th. The State Assembly has not taken action on the bill.

“I was proud to vote for this measure in the Senate, but our job is not yet done. That’s why I am launching a new petition drive to encourage the State Assembly to take action on this bill,” Ranzenhofer said.“I encourage residents to join my campaign to protect your dollars by signing my petition.”

Residents can sign the petition by visiting ranzenhofer.nysenate.gov .

EBT cards work like a debit card for welfare recipients, containing both a Food Stamp and Cash Assistance component. Strict regulations guide what can be purchased for Food Stamps. Cash assistance is intended to pay for items not covered by Food Stamps, such as soap, toothpaste, school supplies and toiletries. Currently, there are no restrictions on the use of Cash Assistance.

Federal aid received by New York may be at risk if the State Assembly does not pass the bill. The federal government has mandated states implement a fraud prevention system by Feb. 2014. If New York State does not act accordingly, the Federal government will penalize the State by cutting federal funding for Cash Assistance by 5 percent or $120 million.

Photo provided by The Batavian's news partner, WBTA.

http://thebatavian.com/howard-owens/ranzenhof... -
Right On

Naples, NY

#2 Oct 27, 2013
"EBT cards work like a debit card for welfare recipients, containing both a Food Stamp and Cash Assistance component. Strict regulations guide what can be purchased for Food Stamps. Cash assistance is intended to pay for items not covered by Food Stamps, such as soap, toothpaste, school supplies and toiletries. Currently, there are no restrictions on the use of Cash Assistance."
Ha Ha

Iraq

#3 Oct 27, 2013
I doubt this will happen.

Since banks like JPMorgan/Chase make a fortune with the STAR program. These banks provide the funding for these entitlement programs for the government ... with interest. On some occasions, the interest is as much as $0.61 on the dollar.

http://www.republicreport.org/2012/how-big-co...

The more folks that are on food stamps and welfare (especially the EBT system)the better it is for the banks.
And allowing the folks on these assistance programs unrestricted use of this new form of currency, means there will be more of a demand for it.

Since the banks have a total control over American politicians, I doubt the banks would allow their pets to vote against their masters.
Right On

Naples, NY

#4 Oct 27, 2013
Pays prety good to be poor in NY.

From the comments section of the Batavian.#13

The cash allowance amount for a household is determined by the number of people living in the household, as well as cost of living expenses for the household, such as rent, & utilities, and amounts to much more than $20/month. The lower these expenses are, the more cash allowance for the recipient.

I know of someone who receives $1200/month, cash allowance from welfare, along with $680/month food stamps, plus their rent, electric & gas bills paid. Welfare doesn't pay for cable T.V., phone(land line or cell), or any expenses for a motor vehicle such as insurance, registration, inspection, and preventive maintenance expenses. Only the bare necessities.

If Ranzenhofer wants to cut down on recipients' waste of tax dollars on non-essentials, then they should make the EBT cards inactive at ANY ATM machine for cash withdrawals, and can only be used at retailers for the essentials that food stamps can't be used to purchase

Just recently, News10 NBC here in Rochester, was doing another segment into their series NYS Exposed. This was regarding people who receive welfare food stamps, and need to supplement their food bill through local food pantries. The couple interviewed in the segment, in their home, clearly should not be spending money on Labatt's Blue if they're struggling to feed their family. The empty cans were on a table behind the man being interviewed .

In so far as your statement concerning the software needed to block tobacco & alcohol purchases with the cash allowance feature of an EBT card, the software would be no different than what's in use today with using an EBT card's food stamp use.
Gibs me dat

Naples, NY

#5 Oct 27, 2013
Right On wrote:
Pays prety good to be poor in NY.
From the comments section of the Batavian.#13
The cash allowance amount for a household is determined by the number of people living in the household, as well as cost of living expenses for the household, such as rent, & utilities, and amounts to much more than $20/month. The lower these expenses are, the more cash allowance for the recipient.
I know of someone who receives $1200/month, cash allowance from welfare, along with $680/month food stamps, plus their rent, electric & gas bills paid. Welfare doesn't pay for cable T.V., phone(land line or cell), or any expenses for a motor vehicle such as insurance, registration, inspection, and preventive maintenance expenses. Only the bare necessities.
If Ranzenhofer wants to cut down on recipients' waste of tax dollars on non-essentials, then they should make the EBT cards inactive at ANY ATM machine for cash withdrawals, and can only be used at retailers for the essentials that food stamps can't be used to purchase
Just recently, News10 NBC here in Rochester, was doing another segment into their series NYS Exposed. This was regarding people who receive welfare food stamps, and need to supplement their food bill through local food pantries. The couple interviewed in the segment, in their home, clearly should not be spending money on Labatt's Blue if they're struggling to feed their family. The empty cans were on a table behind the man being interviewed .
In so far as your statement concerning the software needed to block tobacco & alcohol purchases with the cash allowance feature of an EBT card, the software would be no different than what's in use today with using an EBT card's food stamp use.
Talk about a racket. Welfare cases with a couple of spawn bring in more than those with engineering degree's their first few years of working.
Whats wrong with this picture?
Ha Ha

Iraq

#6 Oct 27, 2013
Gibs me dat wrote:
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Talk about a racket. Welfare cases with a couple of spawn bring in more than those with engineering degree's their first few years of working.
Whats wrong with this picture?
Again, this is a money maker for the banks.
Although this social engineering project to make people lazy is unethical, as long as the banks profit ... I doubt it will end.

The OWS people were right, they just weren't well organized.
Vendetta

Jacksonville, NC

#7 Oct 27, 2013
Where are the JOBS ? Where is the Economic Recovery ?

We need to flush this administration down the toilet .

As well as the last 8 administrations , are you seeing a pattern here folks . it's called boil the FROG .

Keep watching T.V. and drinking the Fluoridated water. Eating the GMO food , High fructose corn syrup , and MSG ... and wonder why your health and BRAIN are broken , as well as your wallet .
PTSD Sufferer

Atlanta, GA

#8 Oct 27, 2013
People collecting welfare payments, that don't have PTSD, cheese me off. We're the ones that really can't work.
Ha Ha

Iraq

#9 Oct 27, 2013
PTSD Sufferer wrote:
People collecting welfare payments, that don't have PTSD, cheese me off. We're the ones that really can't work.
Really?

I know a few guys with PTSD.

They get quite a bit of money from the VA, even though they never left the green zone.

Ever since they started paying out for PTSD ... then number of folks who are diagnosed with it went up.

I guess it's how you justify it in your head.
PTSD Sufferer

Buffalo, NY

#10 Oct 28, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
I know a few guys with PTSD.
They get quite a bit of money from the VA, even though they never left the green zone.
Yeah, PTSD is a crock, but it beats working. The drugs are good (you can sell them, which is extra income), and you get a ton of sympathy. I had a great summer playing volleyball in Charlotte.
nickbotard13

Rochester, NY

#11 Oct 28, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
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Really?
I know a few guys with PTSD.
They get quite a bit of money from the VA, even though they never left the green zone.
.
You work outside the gate! You have no idea how stressful foosball and swimming pools are!
Jason

Santa Clara, CA

#12 Oct 28, 2013
PTSD Sufferer wrote:
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Yeah, PTSD is a crock, but it beats working. The drugs are good (you can sell them, which is extra income), and you get a ton of sympathy. I had a great summer playing volleyball in Charlotte.
And we're so proud of our servicemen and women who defraud the taxpayers. Hope that PTSD clears up, or do they just pay you for the rest of your life?
George

Buffalo, NY

#13 Oct 29, 2013
PTSD Sufferer wrote:
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Yeah, PTSD is a crock, but it beats working. The drugs are good (you can sell them, which is extra income), and you get a ton of sympathy. I had a great summer playing volleyball in Charlotte.
This really ticks me off. Finding out that I could be pulling VA benefits, and I missed it. I feel a case of PTSD coming on.
Ben

Fairport, NY

#15 Oct 29, 2013
zeldo wrote:
wat doezz yuzz meenz day cants take away der ebt cards dat beez ray sis.
we know what happens when day getz upset.
der beez a ri ot ery werez jus like da chicken joint runnin out day got sta feed dur fam bleez
I doubt anybody reads your stuff. It's jibberish. And not funny. Most of us just skip over it.
Ben

Fairport, NY

#17 Oct 29, 2013
zeldo wrote:
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you are a imbecile with moronic tendencies.
are yu anudda unemployed white guy???
continu on with yur pathetic life
Cool. Well, at least I'm white. I win.
WhoCares

Conesus, NY

#18 Oct 29, 2013
zeldo wrote:
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you are a imbecile with moronic tendencies.
are yu anudda unemployed white guy???
continu on with yur pathetic life
zeldo

I hope you realize that there is a certain demoghaphic of posters here that simply will not or can not grasp the truth.
WhoCares

Conesus, NY

#21 Oct 29, 2013
zeldo wrote:
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we are white yu moronic bits.
we are productive citizens unlike most of you.
Dummy, read the posts a few mor times!!!! I am on your side.
Ben

Fairport, NY

#23 Oct 29, 2013
zeldo wrote:
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we are productive citizens unlike most of you.
Examples? Talk is cheap and, in your case, undecipherable (that means hard to understand).
the next door neigbor

Rochester, NY

#25 Oct 30, 2013
One has to wonder where the crew is and why they aren't making any comments. Maybe they are worried that this drive(bill) might harm their lifestyle.
the next door neigbor

Rochester, NY

#26 Oct 31, 2013
20 hours later and still no reply from the crew, WOW!

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