Cause of death ruled a suicide in mis...

Cause of death ruled a suicide in missing Penfield teen

There are 56 comments on the WHEC-TV Rochester, NY story from Jan 10, 2008, titled Cause of death ruled a suicide in missing Penfield teen. In it, WHEC-TV Rochester, NY reports that:

The Monroe County Medical Examiner's Office has ruled the manner of death a suicide in the case of the missing 15-year-old Penfield boy Andrew Dezio.

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Lady of Lake

United States

#27 Jan 12, 2008
InTheCity wrote:
How come they don't say HOW he did it??
I do not know. It IS difficult to believe that this young man did take his own life. No history of self destructive behavior, etc. On TV it was mentioned that friends were very shocked that he would do something like this.... From what I understand there was a 9 1/2 hour search and Andrew was not found. Another search and the body appeared this time. Something feels very unsettling about this whole situation. Now I understand there is no identified cause of death, even though it has been ruled a suicide. How is this even possible? This young man had his whole life ahead of him. It is sad.
Lady of Lake

United States

#28 Jan 12, 2008
saddened wrote:
in response to the people the topic of how...
when a story like this is in the news the whole community is impacted. countless people hope, pray, and unfortunately mourn. our heart goes out to the family and even those who do not know the people are vicariously traumatized. we try very hard to make sense of a situation like this. in this situation the how matters because it makes a big difference in our understanding of the situation if he froze to death or took more active measures to end his life. it is so sad when you see a young kid who thinks that things are so awful that he has to end it. he canot fathom that he still has his whole life to come to terms with what bothers him. on a personal note, this story touches me as a parent and a psychologist. i am striving to make sense of it and understand. i am looking for bits of info that can be helpful to prevent other teen suicides. i guess what i am trying to say is that i too am interested in the how not because i am morbid, but because i am desparately trying to make sense of this tragedy.
Hi, How can this death be ruled a suicide without identifying a specific cause of death? Especially when it is the death of a 15 year old....he was not elderly and this was certainly not death due to natural causes.
Lady of Lake

United States

#29 Jan 12, 2008
emt in 315 wrote:
in the city,
Why would that matter? It sure doesnt make the healing for the family or friends any easier, It is a sad situation and all that matters is healing..... I see people like you everyday and you guys are sick. How would you like it if it was your family and someone wanted to know how and why they did it off the news? Think before you type.
To the family, Im sorry for your loss and may god bless you
Hi,
WHY would it matter? For starters it may have mattered to Andrew just in case he did not suicide. It does seem a bit odd that this young man left the house one time and died within a block of his home, a 9 1/2 hour search was completed...no body....then a second search and they found Andrew. I'm sure it would matter to Andrew just in case this was not a suicide. There is something very sad and distressful about this death.

DCH

Since: Jan 08

Penfield

#30 Jan 12, 2008
I am wondering if the family requested no detailed information be reported. His father did say that last day Andrew was not acting like himself. There is talk that Andrew text messaged a friend alluding to never seeing each other in this lifetime....do not know if this is fact. If it is a fact who knows how long Andrew had been depressed, this anguish to end your life doesn't come on in one day.
I too wondered about the search. The police don't do anything for 24 hours, he was labeled a runaway and everyone thought he would be back. Don't know if the family went out searching that night, it was cold out and we had snow on the ground. If the sherrif's dept. didn't start the search until days later it would have been too late just from the elements.
I am not sure when the police did their first search.
It is a terrible shame that he was so close to home.
Lady of Lake

United States

#31 Jan 12, 2008
DCH wrote:
I am wondering if the family requested no detailed information be reported. His father did say that last day Andrew was not acting like himself. There is talk that Andrew text messaged a friend alluding to never seeing each other in this lifetime....do not know if this is fact. If it is a fact who knows how long Andrew had been depressed, this anguish to end your life doesn't come on in one day.
I too wondered about the search. The police don't do anything for 24 hours, he was labeled a runaway and everyone thought he would be back. Don't know if the family went out searching that night, it was cold out and we had snow on the ground. If the sherrif's dept. didn't start the search until days later it would have been too late just from the elements.
I am not sure when the police did their first search.
It is a terrible shame that he was so close to home.
Hi,
Yes, it seems a bit out of character for this young man to simply become distressed about a video game(?), to stomp out of the house and take his own life a block away on a cold night a few days before Christmas. Students and staff of his school described him as always happy, etc.... To have him commit suicide is so much in opposition to how he lived his life. He had friends, played sports, does it sound reasonable for him to take his own life over a game?

DCH

Since: Jan 08

Penfield

#32 Jan 12, 2008
He was in my son's gym class last year and my son remembers Andrew always smiling and talking to people.
I doubt it was over a video game, it was probably the last straw for him for whatever he felt was so terrible in his life.
Lady of Lake

United States

#33 Jan 13, 2008
DCH wrote:
He was in my son's gym class last year and my son remembers Andrew always smiling and talking to people.
I doubt it was over a video game, it was probably the last straw for him for whatever he felt was so terrible in his life.
Hi,
This is my point....there did NOT seem to be anything in his life that caused him to be morose, have mood swings, etc. This suicide was totally OUT of character for this friendly, happy young man who was liked by everyone. Was there an investigation....it seemed to be ruled a suicide VERY quickly with short time for any thorough investigation. There is something strange about this whole situation. I read that there WAS a search....air, foot, K-9 unit, etc.... Andrew was not found. Then....another search was completed and Andrew was found approximately 1 block from his home. This seems a bit strange, especially if K-9 unit was used...why Andrew was not found during the first search.

DCH

Since: Jan 08

Penfield

#34 Jan 13, 2008
Right after discovering him the sherrif's dept said there was no sign of foul play.
I too wondered how they could not have found him with K-9's. I have driven to the area and the wooded spot he was in is very small, yes we had snow but it wasn't that deep, a dog could easily run through it and through the wooded lot. Also there are houses very close by this wooded lot. I would like to know the details of the search.
Lady of Lake

United States

#35 Jan 13, 2008
DCH wrote:
Right after discovering him the sherrif's dept said there was no sign of foul play.
I too wondered how they could not have found him with K-9's. I have driven to the area and the wooded spot he was in is very small, yes we had snow but it wasn't that deep, a dog could easily run through it and through the wooded lot. Also there are houses very close by this wooded lot. I would like to know the details of the search.
Hi,
Yes, I'm familiar with dogs...and I'm wondering why K-9 unit did not find Andrew during first search. Maybe he was not there...the investigation seems to be looking at this from the perspective based on information they've been given that this WAS a suicide. Possibly it was made to look like a suicide. This suicide is so out of character for Andrew when hearing friends and school authorities describing him. Something may have been overlooked because people have been looking in one direction. This should not be investigated from the perspective of a pre-determination.
Lady of Lake

United States

#36 Jan 13, 2008
saddened wrote:
because its none of our business!
Hi,
If my body were found a block from my home....I'm hoping that my friends and neighbors WOULD make it their business to see that there was a thorough investigation. Not just an investigation based on commentary posing a pre-determined opinion of what happened. This is what a thorough investigation is.....all possible scenarios are visited. If you want to stick your head in the sand, you're right...that is YOUR business.

DCH

Since: Jan 08

Penfield

#37 Jan 13, 2008
We don't know what else was found at the scene, I am sure they must have a reason to have ruled it a suicide. Like I had posted earlier, his Dad said Andrew was not acting like himself all day Sunday the 23rd.
Maybe Andrew felt that as a male he could not show his emotions of feeling depressed for whatever reason.
I have since learned that scents can be covered up by snow, german shepards can smell thru the snow but bloodhounds can't also wind plays a factor in the scents.
roz

United States

#38 Jan 13, 2008
DCH wrote:
We don't know what else was found at the scene, I am sure they must have a reason to have ruled it a suicide. Like I had posted earlier, his Dad said Andrew was not acting like himself all day Sunday the 23rd.
Maybe Andrew felt that as a male he could not show his emotions of feeling depressed for whatever reason.
I have since learned that scents can be covered up by snow, german shepards can smell thru the snow but bloodhounds can't also wind plays a factor in the scents.
It seems like there is a strong willingness to listen to a few facts(?) and not investigate what actually happened to Andrew...this is my opinion. Please walk around a block....get a good feeling for how large a block is....and then ask yourself WHY Andrew was not found. Something is wrong with this picture.
somethingswrongh ere

Rochester, NY

#39 Jan 14, 2008
Lady of Lake wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not know. It IS difficult to believe that this young man did take his own life. No history of self destructive behavior, etc. On TV it was mentioned that friends were very shocked that he would do something like this.... From what I understand there was a 9 1/2 hour search and Andrew was not found. Another search and the body appeared this time. Something feels very unsettling about this whole situation. Now I understand there is no identified cause of death, even though it has been ruled a suicide. How is this even possible? This young man had his whole life ahead of him. It is sad.
Seems kind of fishy to me too... You mean to tell us that they searched that long, with DOGS, helicopter, atv's, with people, police and horse back and he wasn't found that close to his house??? Gives me alot of confidenc in our systems. NOT!
rozShoem

United States

#40 Jan 15, 2008
DCH wrote:
We don't know what else was found at the scene, I am sure they must have a reason to have ruled it a suicide. Like I had posted earlier, his Dad said Andrew was not acting like himself all day Sunday the 23rd.
Maybe Andrew felt that as a male he could not show his emotions of feeling depressed for whatever reason.
I have since learned that scents can be covered up by snow, german shepards can smell thru the snow but bloodhounds can't also wind plays a factor in the scents.
Hi,
I've had dogs as pets for years...small dogs, large dogs (various retrievers) and you take them outside....whether in cold or warm weather... if there is a dead animal....they lead you to it...even when I'm aware a dead rabbit or something is just ahead...I have all I can do to stear my dog clear of it. They will even spot live cats in trees....they pick up the scent and head in that direction. They smell urine of other dogs....and they head in that direction. When a person dies/ suicides there are often body fluids released from body (urine, etc.). It would seem that even an untrained dog would be able to find a person.
rozShoem

United States

#41 Jan 15, 2008
somethingswronghere wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems kind of fishy to me too... You mean to tell us that they searched that long, with DOGS, helicopter, atv's, with people, police and horse back and he wasn't found that close to his house??? Gives me alot of confidenc in our systems. NOT!
Hi,
I know ...this seems incredible. When I first heard this (what you mention about all that was involved in the search), it made me wonder if the body had not been placed there AFTER the search. If they were searching some national forest, hundreds of acres....it would seem possible the person might not be found....but within a couple blocks from his home...Andrew was not found during that initial search?...especially with all of the above listed resources???? This is perplexing.
GUMP

Pittsford, NY

#42 Jan 16, 2008
I heard that the poor boy was found by a professional searching team that the sheriff called in for the first time a week ago yesterday. I live close by and watched this search and there were some people in red jackets that seemed to be in charge...these must have been these pros. They did act like they knew what they were doing. It didn't take them very long.

DCH

Since: Jan 08

Penfield

#43 Jan 16, 2008
I heard from a reliable source that Andrew did hang himself. Apparently there was some history of some things with the family dynamics. Who knows how long Andrew had been contemplating this, we hear how he was a clown and made people laugh all the time, alot of people who are funny like that on the outside are using it as a mask to cover their real sadness inside.
It is a terrible tragedy.
saddened

Schenectady, NY

#44 Jan 18, 2008
every now and then there is a story in the news that really affects me and for some reason this is one of them. my heart breaks for this child and his family. from what everyone says he had so much going for him, so many people loved him, and he appered to have so many other blessings it is hard to imagine what was so painful to him. i continue to pray for his family.

DCH

Since: Jan 08

Penfield

#45 Jan 19, 2008
I feel the same way about this story, my son keeps telling me I am obsessed. I find myself looking up videos and blogs on facebook and spacebook to see Andrew and his friends. I have been so sad about it and that he was hurting so very much that he couldn't reach out to someone. I too have been praying everyday for his family and that hopefully he has found peace.
guess what

Fairport, NY

#46 Jan 19, 2008
his dad was always yelling at him, he was just a mean father. you can only push someone so far till they snap. He was always finding fault with andrew. I hope his dad is happy andrews out of his way now.

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