Who Killed East High School And How?

Who Killed East High School And How?

Created by LazyParentLazyStudent on May 2, 2014

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Parents who don't care

Parents whodon't value education

Students who don't care

Students attendence

All of the above

LazyParentLazySt udent

Victor, NY

#1 May 2, 2014
All of the above. You can't fix stupid. Separate the kid's by attendence and let the kid's who want to learn and who's parents care, learn with out being held back because of the failures who don't care or value anything...350 absent every day is rediculous. How can a teacher possibly teach the few that want to learn.
Keith

Rochester, NY

#2 May 2, 2014
Why learn? You can collect a check for life from Social Services and never work. Education is not important. Socialism is destroying this country.
Taxation without represen

Cleveland, OH

#5 May 3, 2014
RacistFireCrotchBarnFart wrote:
White teachers that live in the burbs.
There's no black teachers ?
Oh that's right.......blacks can't be educated...
Blame the tax payers.....lol
But we all know it's government that makes the blacks lazy with handouts while stealing $$$ from the burbs thru taxation without representation.

Beware of liberals posing as Americans
Rhondas Kin

Rochester, NY

#6 May 3, 2014
Erica Bryant: A school for the kids who want to learn

The last time I was at East High School, I watched a boy try to ask a question about a tornado. It was a Friday morning and there was blood on the floor, spit there by a student who'd been punched in the mouth on the way from his previous class. Another girl walked in dripping water from an ice pack she held to her eye. They both looked down or out the window as two other boys got in an argument.

Eventually the bigger of them had to be escorted from the room. The smaller one shouted loudly after him that he ought to go perform a particular sex act.

This week: East High faces uncertain future

PDF: In letter to Vargas, options for East listed

The teacher told one girl to get off of her desk, stop talking and put away her phone. The girl stayed put, telling the teacher she was almost finished with whatever she was doing. The teacher told another boy to stop walking around the classroom and talking loudly. He ignored her.

Just a typical Friday morning, the teacher would say later.

She tried her best to get through her lesson about severe storms. At some point a quiet student who was sitting in the back asked a question about the tornado that had just happened in Oklahoma. The teacher barely heard it because the boy who had been escorted out was back, and walking around the classroom shouting. She started to answer, but then another kid was sitting on a desk, or walking around the room or swearing at somebody and that was that.

I thought about the boy with the tornado question when it was announced that East is likely to be reorganized, closed or turned into a charter school due to persistently poor graduation rates. Slightly more than forty percent of students graduate in four years and so the state has ordered Superintendent Bolgen Vargas to remake the high school. As one of that science teacher's students once suggested, "What they need to do is have a school for the kids who make As and Bs."

I think she meant that schools should offer a space for the kids who want to be respectful, to ask questions about the subject matter and do their work. Too many classrooms are hijacked by kids with behavioral problems. Teachers can't teach when they are always putting out fires. Students can't learn if they can't get their questions answered.

There is a trend away from suspending students. But there ought to be more programs strictly for students who follow the rules. Students who are respectful and follow directions ought to have their own classrooms in which there is zero tolerance for disobeying teachers, swearing and disrupting lessons. If you break the rules, you are out. Reentry could be gained by doing some community service or something like that.

I am sure there is some reason why some students in Rochester behave badly. Many are victims of trauma. Many have parents who don't offer support and stability. They are victims of circumstances beyond their control and they should get counseling and other support to help them deal with adversity. But they should not be allowed to ruin the educational opportunities of kids who don't have those problems.

The kids walking around the classroom swearing get the most attention. There are many more kids who have questions about tornadoes. They deserve better.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/rochester-ny/...
Rhondas Kin

Rochester, NY

#7 May 3, 2014
Letter: Remove distractions from city classrooms

Finally …

Kudos to Erica Bryant on her insightful March 22 column about a typical classroom in the Rochester School District. She has defined one of the biggest problems facing the education of our students — discipline.

We cannot fix our schools without first requiring proper behavior. There are many students who want to learn; give them a chance in a peaceful, calm atmosphere. There are many who could care less, for whatever reason; give them the boot to an alternative classroom setting.

Divide and conquer!

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/opi...
Former Teacher

Rochester, NY

#8 May 3, 2014
All the above. The nine people who took the poll I just took are 100% correct. Let me repeat the killers of East High: parents who don't care, parents who don't value education, students who don't care or value education, and finally attendance; students just don't attend daily or do their homework. This atmosphere of not caring about education is not just a problem at East, it is problem throughout the district and other big inner city school districts; it's culturally imbedded and there isn't a quick fix to the problem. It's taken 20 to 30 years to get this bad, so it will take just as long to fix it. No matter how many times we close schools, give them fancy new names, and play musical chairs with students and teachers: nothing will change until parents and students decide to value education more and understand that the only way to a better future is through education. Above all, we need to stop blaming teachers. What can they do when 50% don't attend their classes and those that do come are not prepared to learn and don't care?
EdW

Pittsford, NY

#9 May 3, 2014
East High is turning out another generation of welfare recipients. Either close it, or have some other entity manage it. Good luck.
Sam

Ardsley, NY

#10 May 3, 2014
I have an excellent idea! According to the former teacher's post, if parents and children are the major players in the failure of East High, let's do something very innovative. In this morning's paper the principal of East had a great idea about using the Medly, but I would like to tweet it. He proposes turning the mall into a metro school. As a teacher I propose turning the mall into a public military boarding school! I would leave East as is and take the students who have no parental support and need discipline and send them there. Before you laugh and dismiss the idea, it has been done in another large city and has been very successful. It could enroll students from the entire county!
Sam

Ardsley, NY

#12 May 3, 2014
Sam wrote:
I have an excellent idea! According to the former teacher's post, if parents and children are the major players in the failure of East High, let's do something very innovative. In this morning's paper the principal of East had a great idea about using the Medly, but I would like to tweet it. He proposes turning the mall into a metro school. As a teacher I propose turning the mall into a public military boarding school! I would leave East as is and take the students who have no parental support and need discipline and send them there. Before you laugh and dismiss the idea, it has been done in another large city and has been very successful. It could enroll students from the entire county!
I meant "tweak" it.
Sam
Rhondas Kin

Rochester, NY

#13 May 3, 2014
This is Why Every Major City Will Soon Be Detroit! Rochester next?

http://moneymorning.com/ext/articles/wealthan...

"Just take a look at Detroit, Michigan, which in 1960 had the highest per-capita income in the entire nation.

Today, welfare dependency has become a way of life in the once-proud Motor City.

Roughly one-third of Detroit's 140 square miles is either vacant or derelict. There are approximately 78,000 abandoned homes in the city and local realtors offer houses for $1 and still find no takers.

A horrifying 47% of Detroit residents are functionally illiterate. Less than half of Detroit residents over the age of 16 are working. And 60% of all children in the city live in poverty.

That's the bottom line on the "Model Welfare City" - where the same robber-baron Political Class has been in power for nearly 40 years.

Editor's Note: This is exactly what Washington wants. An illiterate, lazy populace, that's easily manipulated. Don't settle for that. Go here to see how you can fight back.

Crime has gotten so bad in Detroit even the police are telling people to "enter Detroit at your own risk."

Sound familiar? Like your nightly news?
Statistic number

Rochester, NY

#14 May 3, 2014
Rhondas Kin wrote:
This is Why Every Major City Will Soon Be Detroit! Rochester next?
http://moneymorning.com/ext/articles/wealthan...
"Just take a look at Detroit, Michigan, which in 1960 had the highest per-capita income in the entire nation.
Today, welfare dependency has become a way of life in the once-proud Motor City.
Roughly one-third of Detroit's 140 square miles is either vacant or derelict. There are approximately 78,000 abandoned homes in the city and local realtors offer houses for $1 and still find no takers.
A horrifying 47% of Detroit residents are functionally illiterate. Less than half of Detroit residents over the age of 16 are working. And 60% of all children in the city live in poverty.
That's the bottom line on the "Model Welfare City" - where the same robber-baron Political Class has been in power for nearly 40 years.
Editor's Note: This is exactly what Washington wants. An illiterate, lazy populace, that's easily manipulated. Don't settle for that. Go here to see how you can fight back.
Crime has gotten so bad in Detroit even the police are telling people to "enter Detroit at your own risk."
Sound familiar? Like your nightly news?
I see the thread comparing Detroit and Rochester has been shut down. Thanks for posting the link here. Very good read! facts and statistics.
Mike

Rochester, NY

#15 May 3, 2014
No need for an education when you can sit home and drink beer, do drugs and watch TV all day. Education is a joke to city foke. No taxes, no stress, no worry about loosing your job or money in the stock market its just sit back and relax and watch the money roll in for life. Free health insurance as well. Such a deal!!

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