Lavabit Shuts Down
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Das right chillren

Rochester, NY

#1 Aug 8, 2013
I'll keep this short by posting just the last paragraph of a notice posted on the site. To find out the reasons why (if you don't already know), search 'Lavabit' here ... https://www.startpage.com/

To see the notice in full, go here ... http://lavabit.com/

"This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States."


Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
Ha Ha

Iraq

#2 Aug 8, 2013
It is nice to see some people fight the good fight, but you can't beat city hall when they are using your own money (tax dollars) to defeat you.
Ha Ha

Iraq

#3 Aug 8, 2013
Here is another private amail service that shut down.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046264/after-...

“Don't Toews Me Bro!”

Since: Apr 13

The Elite Northeast

#4 Aug 8, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
Here is another private amail service that shut down.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046264/after-...
It's a slippery slope now that the cat's out of the bag. Snowden allowed us to get the reality of gov't spying, but imagine what they do with that X-Keyscore program. You/They can't tell me that isn't routinely abused
Ha Ha

Iraq

#5 Aug 8, 2013
ThatOneBeaut wrote:
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It's a slippery slope now that the cat's out of the bag. Snowden allowed us to get the reality of gov't spying, but imagine what they do with that X-Keyscore program. You/They can't tell me that isn't routinely abused
Agreed!

How many cops pull women over just to get their phone number?
How many jealous cops use police resources to spy on their spouses?

And as many examples of abuse by cops, Iíll bet the NSA data collection personnel do worse.
Cops go through a much stricter vetting process that the data collection personnel at the NSA.
Look at how many security clearances were actually pencil whipped ... http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2013/06/nsa-sc...
Ha Ha

Iraq

#6 Aug 9, 2013
another good article on lavabit and silent circle
http://www.dailytech.com/Death+Before+Dishono...
Das right chillren

Rochester, NY

#7 Aug 9, 2013
@Ha Ha

Thanks for the links about Silent Circle!
Coffee is Scorched

Rochester, NY

#8 Aug 9, 2013
Funny how all of a sudden people are realizing the government cannot be trusted. This phenomenon has been going on for years in some communities with certain races.

stupid people finally waking up. About time.
Das right chillren

Rochester, NY

#9 Aug 9, 2013
The only thing sudden was Lavabit and Silent Circle shutting down. The rest is a product of your suddenly phenomenon imagination.

“Don't Toews Me Bro!”

Since: Apr 13

The Elite Northeast

#10 Aug 9, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
another good article on lavabit and silent circle
http://www.dailytech.com/Death+Before+Dishono...
"These losses may just be the first in a far greater anti-privacy crackdown by the powers that rule the U.S. In recent weeks the NSA and other intelligence agencies have demanded companies like Google Inc.(GOOG) turn over master encryption keys allowing them to access any U.S. citizens private messages without permission."

A company like Google would do that too if they haven't already worked out some private deal involving a big payday for Google.
Das right chillren

Rochester, NY

#11 Aug 9, 2013
I can't bet the ranch and give 2 to 1 odds as I normally would, but I'd be willing to place a small wager that Google co-founders are maxed-out Obama supporters, which means that Google has been in Obama's hip pocket since day one.

I would also be willing to place a slightly smaller wager that Google handed over master encryption keys a long time ago and the NSA is just covering Google's butt, pretending like Google really isn't an information collection agency for the Obama Administration when all of us stupid people know that it is.

“Don't Toews Me Bro!”

Since: Apr 13

The Elite Northeast

#12 Aug 9, 2013
Das right chillren wrote:
I can't bet the ranch and give 2 to 1 odds as I normally would, but I'd be willing to place a small wager that Google co-founders are maxed-out Obama supporters, which means that Google has been in Obama's hip pocket since day one.
I would also be willing to place a slightly smaller wager that Google handed over master encryption keys a long time ago and the NSA is just covering Google's butt, pretending like Google really isn't an information collection agency for the Obama Administration when all of us stupid people know that it is.
Bush and Obama worked just as hard together to make what we see today happen. It all started with The Patriot Act under fear tactics, which majority of Americans fell for. Now in 2013, it's snowballed into practically a surveillance state.
This is one issue Dems, Reps, and Libertarians are all coming together on.
Das right chillren

Rochester, NY

#13 Aug 9, 2013
ThatOneBeaut wrote:
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Bush and Obama worked just as hard together to make what we see today happen. It all started with The Patriot Act under fear tactics, which majority of Americans fell for. Now in 2013, it's snowballed into practically a surveillance state.
This is one issue Dems, Reps, and Libertarians are all coming together on.
Yeah, I know. I saw the picture of Bush and Obama in the link posted by Ha Ha. What you just posted is an enhanced\re-worded variation of the caption under the pic.

Both are variations of that old, liberal song and dance routine, "It's Bush's fault! Bush did it, too!"

If this was American Bandstand, I'd give it a 25 ...

no beat
no rhythm
impossible to dance to

“Don't Toews Me Bro!”

Since: Apr 13

The Elite Northeast

#14 Aug 9, 2013
Das right chillren wrote:
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Yeah, I know. I saw the picture of Bush and Obama in the link posted by Ha Ha. What you just posted is an enhanced\re-worded variation of the caption under the pic.
Both are variations of that old, liberal song and dance routine, "It's Bush's fault! Bush did it, too!"
If this was American Bandstand, I'd give it a 25 ...
no beat
no rhythm
impossible to dance to
I point fingers at liberals and conservatives when they are out of line. I calls it like I sees it
Ha Ha

Iraq

#15 Aug 10, 2013
This story involves the police department in the town of Stonewall , TX, who reported finding a man's body last Saturday in the early evening in the Pedernales River near the State Highway 87 bridge. The dead man's name would not be released until his family had been notified.

The victim apparently drowned due to excessive beer consumption while visiting "someone" in Horseshoe Bay . He was wearing black fishnet stockings, 4 inch spiked heels, a red garter belt, a pink G-string, purple lipstick, dazzle dust on his eyelids, 1/2 inch false eyelashes and an Obama T-shirt.

The police removed the Obama T-shirt to spare his family any unnecessary embarrassment.
Ha Ha

Iraq

#16 Aug 10, 2013
In Texas there is a town called New Braunfels , where there is a large German-speaking population.

One day, a local rancher driving down a country road noticed a man using his hand to drink water from the rancher's stock pond.

The rancher rolled down the window and shouted: "Sehr angenehm! Trink das Wasser nicht. Die kuehe haben darein geschissen." This means:ďGlad to meet you! Don't drink the water. The cows have shit in it."

The man shouted back: "I'm from New York and just down here campaigning for Obama's health care plan. I can't understand you. Please speak in English."

The rancher replied: "Use both hands."
Das right chillren

Rochester, NY

#17 Aug 11, 2013
ThatOneBeaut wrote:
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I point fingers at liberals and conservatives when they are out of line. I calls it like I sees it
That's very admirable. Kind of like, you don't actually stand for anything, just point the finger at people for the stands they take?

“Don't Toews Me Bro!”

Since: Apr 13

The Elite Northeast

#18 Aug 11, 2013
Das right chillren wrote:
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That's very admirable. Kind of like, you don't actually stand for anything, just point the finger at people for the stands they take?
Of course I stand for something. Being hardcore left or hardcore right is the result of brainwashing. The ability to think things out rationlly and form an opinion even if it isn't with your party's platform is something too many American's lack.

“Don't Toews Me Bro!”

Since: Apr 13

The Elite Northeast

#19 Aug 11, 2013
Americans*
Martha

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Aug 11, 2013
Das right chillren wrote:
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That's very admirable. Kind of like, you don't actually stand for anything, just point the finger at people for the stands they take?
That's ThatOneBeaut's typical position. Hasn't got the slightest idea what the real back channel is, probably gets his facts from FOX news. Extremely uninformed poster. Guaranteed to be whimpy and slippery as a greased pole. But will agree with everybody.

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