Deaf community pushes for closed capt...

Deaf community pushes for closed captioning at movie theatres

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Ha Ha

Fairport, NY

#2 Aug 10, 2014
What we need is a grievance group of normal people who work, pay taxes and have nothing to complain about except being forced to adjust our lives to accommodate the complainers!
Benny

Pittsford, NY

#3 Aug 10, 2014
I'm flipping them the bird in sign language.
Benny

Pittsford, NY

#5 Aug 10, 2014
How do deaf people know if someone is screaming or yawning?
The man

Rochester, NY

#6 Aug 10, 2014
Corrected headline for the hearing impaired:

DEAF COMMUNITY PUSHES FOR CLOSED CAPTIONING AT MOVIE THEATERS
Demented Daisy

Pittsford, NY

#7 Aug 10, 2014
The man wrote:
Corrected headline for the hearing impaired:
DEAF COMMUNITY PUSHES FOR CLOSED CAPTIONING AT MOVIE THEATERS
Even worse. Pay big money for a movie, and put up with 500 pt font scrolling across the bottom. Outrageous.

Put them in their own small area, and hire someone to sign the movie. Problem solved.
Ha Ha

Fairport, NY

#8 Aug 10, 2014
Demented Daisy wrote:
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Even worse. Pay big money for a movie, and put up with 500 pt font scrolling across the bottom. Outrageous.
Put them in their own small area, and hire someone to sign the movie. Problem solved.
the death of theaters ... soon everyone will just download or stream the latest release straight to their home theater.
No noisy losers to ruin the movie for you.
Demented Daisy

Pittsford, NY

#9 Aug 10, 2014
Noisy losers, oh right, got it. Obnoxious voices, using cell phones during the movie, don't bathe, hollering their street names across the theater when friends come in late, talking through the show, screechy laughing. I'm getting Kindle Fire.
Demented Daisy

Pittsford, NY

#11 Aug 11, 2014
rentistoodamnhigh wrote:
Theaters should also somehow have brail so blind people can watch.
I supposed they could turn the brightness up.
Sammie

Pittsford, NY

#15 Aug 12, 2014
Why do we, in the U.S., have to live under these insufferable regulations? When I'm paying $10 for a movie, I want to see the unadulterated version, not a reworked version with annoying captions. This would kill porn for me.

Maybe someone should open a movie theater for the deaf.
Benny

Pittsford, NY

#18 Aug 12, 2014
Volvo FH16 wrote:
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Maybe deaf people should open their own movie theater.
They wouldn't need Dolby and THX.
Another Dean DeRusso

Rochester, NY

#20 Aug 12, 2014
I saw the following movies at the Henrietta theater this summer in open captions (no glasses): Captain America - The Winter Solider, Godzilla, X-Men Days of Future Past, Maleficent, Transformers, & Guardians of the Galaxy. Regal Cinemas can confirm that they had open captions at this theater but I guess that effort isn't enough for you - it is all movies captioned all the time or you'd rather have the theater go out of business and close so the entire community suffers by not having a theater. I love this theater - the employees are very friendly and accommodating. They don't control what equipment is sent from their corporate office and their bosses did consult with deaf advocates when they decided to spend millions on those glasses. You can try to silence me but you lose all credibility when you base your arguments on lies and half-truths. The truth is there have been open caption movies at this theater during this summer and Regal does care about the deaf community (the Henrietta theater does more than the average theater on this matter). The real Dean DeRusso problem here is you don't want to listen to reasonable opinions from hearing and some non-hearing folks that don't agree with you.
Progress

Rochester, NY

#22 Aug 12, 2014
The Real Dean DeRusso wrote:
Before you put information with other people's names. Make sure that your information is correctly. The theater might be in the law. It is the same way the law does not allow LGBT marriages in some states. The law is not always correct. In the same way, years ago people argued that segregated bathrooms for white and black was the law. This theater made decision without including the deaf and hard of hearing community. They just made a decision that best suited the theater not the community. This decision was not a good decision at all. No one likes the glasses... and there are many other local theaters to attend. This theater once provided open caption then they stopped the services. The decision was not a fair decision at all. It does not provide equal access it forces the deaf and hard of hearing people not to have equal access.
So why not make an effort to change the law if you believe all laws are not correct and that the ADA laws are flawed? The LGBT community is working to get laws changed and comparing this matter to the civil rights movement is disrespectful (sounds like you'll be comparing this matter to the Holocaust next). The glasses are an improvement for greater access to more movies and show times than previous efforts because deaf and hard of hearing folks can go to the movies anytime now rather than the limited selection previously offered before these glasses existed. I don't think anyone is quoted as the glasses are the final solution and technology will advance and create more progress in the future. Regal has lead the way in this movement. You can go to other local theaters but you won't find that AMC or Tinseltown have better access. Reasonable accommodations and Reasonable solutions can be found by Reasonable people - Subtitles on all screens for all show times does not sound reasonable and you'll alienate potential allies if you fail to recognize these facts.
The Real Dean DeRusso

Rochester, NY

#23 Aug 13, 2014
Progress wrote:
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So why not make an effort to change the law if you believe all laws are not correct and that the ADA laws are flawed? The LGBT community is working to get laws changed and comparing this matter to the civil rights movement is disrespectful (sounds like you'll be comparing this matter to the Holocaust next). The glasses are an improvement for greater access to more movies and show times than previous efforts because deaf and hard of hearing folks can go to the movies anytime now rather than the limited selection previously offered before these glasses existed. I don't think anyone is quoted as the glasses are the final solution and technology will advance and create more progress in the future. Regal has lead the way in this movement. You can go to other local theaters but you won't find that AMC or Tinseltown have better access. Reasonable accommodations and Reasonable solutions can be found by Reasonable people - Subtitles on all screens for all show times does not sound reasonable and you'll alienate potential allies if you fail to recognize these facts.
There are always two sides of the coin. Do you know the real facts to your answers? I am not the one using someone else name and I am not hiding at all. I was aware of the facts and I believe what was done was the best answer.

Regal is moving away from the movement. They are trying to slowly move away. They had caption movies and did not announce them at all. Many deaf people in the community did not know. There was research done and many hearing and deaf showed that they no longer want to go to movies as they want the caption back. If you did not notice, the protesters were not all deaf. there
The Real Dean DeRusso

Rochester, NY

#24 Aug 13, 2014
(I did not finish as it accidentally send. Please disregard last message)

There are always two sides of the coin. Do you know the real facts to your facts? I am not the one using someone else name.

Regal is moving away from the movement. They are trying to slowly move away and join the other theaters for off screen devices. They had caption movies and did not announce them at all. Many deaf people in the community did not know of these options. No one knows how they shared that information.

There was research done and many hearing and deaf showed that they no longer want to go to movies as they want the caption back. The off screen devices are often not working or effective. If you did not notice, the protesters were not all deaf. This is not a deaf or hard of hearing movement. This is a general population movement. It is only a start because more and more hearing are enjoying the caption in the bar scenes. There were tons of discussions with Regal, but they did not want to listen. A group of people decided to show them something that Regal's management did not want to believe was possible.

Because you did your homework... does not mean you have all of your facts correct. I would be happy that you agree that the other theaters are no better. Regal seems to believe that they are better and slowly moving into that direction.
The Real Jesus Christ

Lancaster, NY

#25 Aug 13, 2014
You can always trust someone that puts 'real' in their name....be careful there is someone here saying they are 'Jesus Christ' but they aren't the real one. I always get my show time info from online or I call the theater if I'm unsure or want more info (the theaters are always helpful when I tell them I'm Jesus). Looks like some in the deaf community knew about those open caption shows by looking them up online or calling the theater. I didn't know theaters were required to send engraved invites to deaf and hard of hearing people when open caption show times are happening. How does one get added to that invite list? I think I'll look online for more info.
Ha Ha

Fairport, NY

#26 Aug 13, 2014
The Real Dean DeRusso wrote:
(I did not finish as it accidentally send. Please disregard last message)
There are always two sides of the coin. Do you know the real facts to your facts? I am not the one using someone else name.
Regal is moving away from the movement. They are trying to slowly move away and join the other theaters for off screen devices. They had caption movies and did not announce them at all. Many deaf people in the community did not know of these options. No one knows how they shared that information.
There was research done and many hearing and deaf showed that they no longer want to go to movies as they want the caption back. The off screen devices are often not working or effective. If you did not notice, the protesters were not all deaf. This is not a deaf or hard of hearing movement. This is a general population movement. It is only a start because more and more hearing are enjoying the caption in the bar scenes. There were tons of discussions with Regal, but they did not want to listen. A group of people decided to show them something that Regal's management did not want to believe was possible.
Because you did your homework... does not mean you have all of your facts correct. I would be happy that you agree that the other theaters are no better. Regal seems to believe that they are better and slowly moving into that direction.
I LOVE how you post that we didn't do our homework, yet you don't post any links to prove you did yours.

Having open captions in the theaters near RIT's National Institute for the Deaf is a good idea, because the population of deaf or hard of hearing is large enough to justify supporting open captioning.
But if you conduct that same poll of the people outside the Webster or Irondequoit theaters, you may get a completely different reaction.

Bottom line is, the inconveniences of going to the theater are mounting (noisy & inconsiderate fellow viewers, price gouging at the concession stand, and now HUGH CAPTIONS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN)... soon, the only people who will go to the theater will be people who can't afford their own home theater.

Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us!
DavidS

Pittsford, NY

#27 Aug 13, 2014
Ha Ha wrote:
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I LOVE how you post that we didn't do our homework, yet you don't post any links to prove you did yours.
Sounds like he is providing an opinion only, with nothing to substantiate it. You can't take his premise seriously. Unless he proves his argument, he's blowing smoke.

Which doesn't even matter. I would not attend a theater that implemented closed captioning.
Ha Ha

Woburn, MA

#28 Aug 13, 2014
DavidS wrote:
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Sounds like he is providing an opinion only, with nothing to substantiate it. You can't take his premise seriously. Unless he proves his argument, he's blowing smoke.
Which doesn't even matter. I would not attend a theater that implemented closed captioning.
In his post he talks about research.
Let him post a link to this research.
Eastview Mall

Lancaster, NY

#29 Aug 13, 2014
I go to the Eastview Mall theater. Regal has installed recliner seats that are really comfortable. I get a good discount on food & drinks & movies with my Regal Crown Club card.
Lie Detector

Siler City, NC

#31 Aug 14, 2014
What's a movie theater ? What a waste of time and $.

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