ar-15 not used at sandy hook school shooting

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The_ Patriot_USA wrote:
After two weeks of media reports that a .223 AR-15 Bushmaster was found in the trunk of Lanza's car, gun aficionados point out that the rifle is not a Bushmaster, nor even an AR-class assault weapon.
Gun experts say that the weapon shown in an NBC News report is some kind of shotgun.
Now it turns out that the rifle found in the trunk is not a Bushmaster at all, The police officer is, in gun owner's jargon, cycling a bolt to clear the weapon. An AR uses a charging handle. Gun experts have said that the weapon shown in the video is some kind of shotgun. Here is the news report in which the "long weapon" is shown:
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/340113#...
WATCH THE VIDEO, then watch the shell that gets ejected from the gun, looks a lot like a shotgun shell. An AR 15 would be a shiny brass casing, that's not what you see in the video. Absolutely NOT an AR 15
http://youtu.be/RDw0DUpKssA
The shell that was ejected does look like an 12 or 20 ga round.I ran the video 8 times and enlarged it to see what you are talking about.That would bring another question in to play,his mother had an AR-15,where is it now? Was it found at her apt and nothing was said about it? Way too many questions that hasn't been addressed for sure,why?
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the medis never passes up a good crisis for ratings or to push thier own agenda. The spend all this time talking about illegal guns, but no mention of the US GIVING guns to the mexicain drug cartels to change the gun crime stats in the US so they can take our guns away.

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<quoted text>The shell that was ejected does look like an 12 or 20 ga round.I ran the video 8 times and enlarged it to see what you are talking about.That would bring another question in to play,his mother had an AR-15,where is it now? Was it found at her apt and nothing was said about it? Way too many questions that hasn't been addressed for sure,why?
The ejection port is on the right. That gun looks like a bushmaster AR to me.

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<quoted text>Not to disagree with you,but the charging handel is on the right side right behind the ejection port(AR-15) which is what it looks like the cop was clearing.That being said,the picture was so bad it could also be an AK or an SKS which does have the cocking/clearing lever also on the right. Either way all of them would be asssault weapons which were in the trunk,not the school. Sounds like another way to disarm true Americans after F&F blow up in Obama's and Holder's face to me.
That's cool, good conversation never hurt anyone. But the charging handle on an AR 15 is on top of the upper receiver not on the side. Now they are saying it wasn't any type of assault weapon. The media blows it up and the government blows it out of proportion to start an assault weapons ban. Man are they gonna look stupid if they use Sandy Hook any more in their campaign. You know the ironic thing about this assault weapon ban topic. Our government was okay with Assault weapons until Sandy Hook, Aurora etc. But the Fast and Furious debacle took place well before any of them. So I guess it's okay to give assault weapons to criminals in Mexico, but law abiding citizens can't have them.

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<quoted text>The ejection port is on the right. That gun looks like a bushmaster AR to me.
http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploa...
Not an AR 15, but lets look at your link. AR 15 the ejection portion is on the right as it is on a semi auto or pump shotgun. The charging handle is below the sight assembly and above the forward assist, behind the bolt and above it. The way the officer was racking that bolt tells me that it's not an AR 15. The shell ejected from the gun is not AR 15 ammunition.
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Link please.
Are you falling for all that conspiracy crap? I bet you swallowed that whole LIBOR Scandal link too.
The gun police pulled from his mom's trunk on the news video is not a Bushmaster, but a shotgun.
He shot those kids with the Bushmaster, they have the unspent magazines where he was topping them off (that's where you dont use the whole thing up but continue to switch them out before they are empty).
He shot himself with the 10mm.
Most of us already knew you were stupid, now you are showing off for the new comers.
Only a total twat talks like that when presenting their argument. Why display your ego issues so publicly like that? People are cringing - but they will never tell you, they just avoid you. Look around your life and take notice.
Meanwhile, since you are so smart and we are all so pathetic and stupid, then explain this away :
http://www.facebook.com/... #!/photo.php?fbid=321406291311 266&set=pb.100003256922932 .-2207520000.1358209020&ty pe=3&theater
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The link didn't come through - here are the Batman Maps

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Crap go Facebook NDPTruth to see the pic of the maps -or just check out AZCHOPPERCAM's YouTube channel, watch the video called 'A Strange Comparison'

SANDY HOOK appears on the Batman movie map, the roads line up with Newton, and there is a red circle marking the school at the same location as the Stadium attacked in the movie.

So ... a guy who worked on the movie used to go to school there, included his old school as a prop in the movie as an 'in' joke for his buddies, and Adam Lanza spotted this and decided that made it his perfect target?

Is that how this happened?

Why was that part of Gotham renamed first South Hinkley and then Sandy Hook for this movie, from it's previous 'Tricorners' moniker?

How does this shooting end up being predicted months before in the movie involved in the other fake shooting?

How does Victoria Soto get a FaceBook tribute page 4 days before she allegedly dies?

What kind of investigation flatly denies parents access to their children's remains 'because it is too gruesome'. Isn't that up to the parents?

What kind of parent accepts never seeing the body of their child?

One coincidence is a coincidence. Ten coincidences is a psyop false flag, taking everyone's minds off the fact that the NDAA has already passed, your President now has the authority to disappear, rendition and/or kill you SECRETLY, and people are already starting to die and disappear.

A psy-op is an act of war - America is under attack for real this time, and be sure that no one is going to be telling you about this anytime soon.

I hope y'all like Communism, cuz here it comes.
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Actually there were two seperate videos, one which included the police pulling a semi automatic AR-15 SPORT RIFLE out of the trunk of the vehicle, and the other which included a shotgun being taken from the trunk. Two handguns were found on Lanza's dead body, which means he couldn't have used the AR-15 to kill anybody. The chief medical examiner states that all the victims were killed with "the long gun" and that it was the primary weapon used in the shooting. So he's saying that the victims were killed with the weapon which was in the trunk of the car? suspicious.

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Nick wrote:
Actually there were two seperate videos, one which included the police pulling a semi automatic AR-15 SPORT RIFLE out of the trunk of the vehicle, and the other which included a shotgun being taken from the trunk. Two handguns were found on Lanza's dead body, which means he couldn't have used the AR-15 to kill anybody. The chief medical examiner states that all the victims were killed with "the long gun" and that it was the primary weapon used in the shooting. So he's saying that the victims were killed with the weapon which was in the trunk of the car? suspicious.
There was no ar 15 taken from the trunk. That gun has a composite stock. A lever action on the right side of the bolt. An ar 15 doesnt have any of those. Not to count the ammo ejected is the wrong size. Plus I've looked at that video a lot and have yet to see an ar style magazine well, the gun shown in the video has a flat bottom to it. Either someone who reported this incident has wishful thinking and or is trying to use the power of persuasion or somebody is lying.

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There was no ar 15 taken from the trunk. That gun has a composite stock. A lever action on the right side of the bolt. An ar 15 doesnt have any of those. Not to count the ammo ejected is the wrong size. Plus I've looked at that video a lot and have yet to see an ar style magazine well, the gun shown in the video has a flat bottom to it. Either someone who reported this incident has wishful thinking and or is trying to use the power of persuasion or somebody is lying.
Again,not to disagree,but a AR does eject on the right side and many have a composite stocks.The charging lever is on the right side of the upper receiver behind the ejection port on the side.You are correct about the size of the ammo as I stated before.There is an 12 ga.semi auto that looks like an AR called RAAC MKA-1919,many people think that it is a AR-15,I own two of them and 3 AR's.You can look up the RAAC @ Cheaperthandirt.com .,it is one heck of a gun.

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I agree an AR15 ejects from the right side, however The charging handle is not on the right side of the receiver, it's on top of and centered on the upper receiver to the rear. I carried on for over 20 years and have one right here in my gun safe. The charging handle is on the top rear portion of the upper receiver, not to the right side. A portion of the charging handle protrudes to the left and right side of the receiver. The only thing behind the bolt on the right side is the forward assist.

As far as a composite stock, I am not talking the rear stock in which you shoulder, I am talking the long fore stock in which is in the video. Not consistent with an AR 15.

Upper Receiver – Often called an ‘upper’ for short. This receiver houses the Bolt Carrier, Bolt, Forward Assist, & Charging Handle.

http://www.bushmaster.com/anatomy_bushmaster....

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Now I have seen more news articles that say there were 2 "long guns" in the trunk of the car, so again the debate goes on and if there were 2 long guns, then yes there could have been an AR 15 in there but the pictures that I have seen thus far with the 2 long guns in the trunk are very blurry.

I mean even now they are saying that the police have a second person in custody that may or may not be involved. This of course has been passed through hundreds of people and who knows what to believe at this point. The media is really messing this one up big time.

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Look at the inconsistencies here , amazing how the story has changed since then.

Reporter #1: So the rifle was the primary weapon?
H. Wayne Carver: Yes.
Reporter #1:[Inaudible]
Carver: Uh (pause). Question was what caliber were these bullets. And I know—I probably know more about firearms than most pathologists but if I say it in court they yell at me and don’t make me answer [sic]—so [nervous laughter]. I’ll let the police do that for you.
Reporter #2: Doctor can you tell us about the nature of the wounds. Were they at very close range? Were the children shot at from across the room?
Carver: Uhm, I only did seven of the autopsies. The victims I had ranged from three to eleven wounds apiece and I only saw two of them with close range shooting. Uh, but that’s, uh y’know, a sample. Uh, I really don’t have detailed information on the rest of the injuries.
[Given that Carver is Connecticut’s top coroner and in charge of the entire postmortem this is a startling admission.-JT]
Reporter #3: But you said that the long rifle was used?
Carver: Yes.
Reporter #3: But the long rifle was discovered in the car.
State Police Lieutenant Vance: That’s not correct, sir.
Unidentified reporter #4: How many bullets or bullet fragments did you find in the autopsy. Can you tell us that?
Carver: Oh. I’m lucky I can tell you how many I found. I don’t know. There were lots of them, OK? This type of weapon is not, uh … the bullets are designed in such a fashion that the energy—this is very clinical. I shouldn’t be saying this. But the energy is deposited in the tissue so the bullet stays in [the tissue].
[In fact, the Bushmaster .223 Connecticut police finally claimed was used in the shooting is designed for long range field use and utilizes high velocity bullets with a muzzle velocity of 3,000 fps, the energy of which even at considerable distance would penetrate several bodies before finally coming to rest in tissue.

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The_ Patriot_USA wrote:
I agree an AR15 ejects from the right side, however The charging handle is not on the right side of the receiver, it's on top of and centered on the upper receiver to the rear. I carried on for over 20 years and have one right here in my gun safe. The charging handle is on the top rear portion of the upper receiver, not to the right side. A portion of the charging handle protrudes to the left and right side of the receiver. The only thing behind the bolt on the right side is the forward assist.
As far as a composite stock, I am not talking the rear stock in which you shoulder, I am talking the long fore stock in which is in the video. Not consistent with an AR 15.
Upper Receiver – Often called an ‘upper’ for short. This receiver houses the Bolt Carrier, Bolt, Forward Assist, & Charging Handle.
http://www.bushmaster.com/anatomy_bushmaster....
If you are talking about your service weapon than that would be a M-16 which is slighty different than a AR-15.I put in receiver for all of the ones that know very little about a semi auto rifle. BTW: I have been a FFL wholesale dealer for over 45 years and sold well over a thousand AR style firearms inc Bushmasters.I don't even want to think how many uppers that I sold or preban mags.The way things now look in our country I wish I kept a few more than I did,if you know what I mean,wink-wink.Take heed,the progressives/commies are out to do a big time gun grab and Obama/Soros is leading the charge. Old saying comes to mind:It is better to have and not need than to need and not have.

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Yeah I have a bunch of Colt magazines and built my AR from the ground up. I'm scared on how much I actually spent LOL, but none the less it's a great gun.

There are too many stories about Sandy Hook now, it's all distorted..223 ammo was found, then there was no .223 ammo found.

Whatever Obama wants you to believe so that he can shove his crusade down our throats.

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Maybe the so called AR 15 found had an over sized charging handle and was mounted on the right side of the charging handle. I could see that being feasible and consistent with the way the officer is racking the gun. Again , that video doesn't show much due to the lack of clarity. We may never know what gun(s) were in the trunk for sure. BIG BROTHER doesn't want us to know.

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The_ Patriot_USA wrote:
Maybe the so called AR 15 found had an over sized charging handle and was mounted on the right side of the charging handle. I could see that being feasible and consistent with the way the officer is racking the gun. Again , that video doesn't show much due to the lack of clarity. We may never know what gun(s) were in the trunk for sure. BIG BROTHER doesn't want us to know.
They have a few makes of over sized charging handels on the market and many people do change them out.I'll stick with my "factory" installed one.If you get the time look for a 1919 12ga semi auto,they don't cost all that much,very well made and low recoil,great for the Zombie attacks comming our way,lol.(they run around $500 to $700)
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The_ Patriot_USA wrote:
We may never know what gun(s) were in the trunk for sure. BIG BROTHER doesn't want us to know.
Absolutely true.

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