ESL Voted Worst Place work Again in 2013
Wendy

Penfield, NY

#21 Sep 21, 2013
Tony D wrote:
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It all starts at the top. Dave Feidler and Antonio Perez are one in the same. They are leaders that should have never been put in charge. Poor Managers only out for themselves. Both answer to no one. On ego trips.
You are so right. Most employees think Dave Feidler is a joke. He is a terrible manager, and the people around him are equally incompetent.

I would caution anyone looking for that first job to keep looking, if they are considering ESL. Experienced people in the business already know to avoid it. I wasn't that astute when I joined out of college. First couple of days were great, last 18 months have been miserable.

Did anybody mention the pointless meetings yet?
Kelly

Rochester, NY

#22 Sep 21, 2013
Wendy wrote:
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You are so right. Most employees think Dave Feidler is a joke. He is a terrible manager, and the people around him are equally incompetent.
I would caution anyone looking for that first job to keep looking, if they are considering ESL. Experienced people in the business already know to avoid it. I wasn't that astute when I joined out of college. First couple of days were great, last 18 months have been miserable.
Did anybody mention the pointless meetings yet?
I worked in the branch for 2 years. Not one time did Karen Davis ever talk to me. Did not even acknowledge I existed. What a poor manager. I am no longer employed at ESL. I was walked out because I did not make my goals. I now work for another credit union who respects their employees and acknowledges they exist. Its sad when you can not even say hello to your employees. Its was also my fellow employees that got the same treatment from Ms Davis. When I posted for jobs in the back office I was never given a chance. I am now glad I am gone.
Wendy

Penfield, NY

#23 Sep 21, 2013
Kelly wrote:
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I am now glad I am gone.
I wish I were in your position. I talk to ex employees who are so pleased to be gone, and are enjoying employment elsewhere. Hopefully, something will present itself shortly. I'll run, not walk out of this place. Working for ESL is like living a nightmare.
Lenny S

Buffalo, NY

#24 Sep 21, 2013
Used to work there, now at an investment firm. What a change. Nice environment and making a much higher salary. Best part is no rotten managers. Feel sorry for my friends still there. They say nothing has changed. I can relate to all these posts.
John

Rochester, NY

#25 Sep 21, 2013
I Left in 2008 after many years. It shocks me to hear of all the managers that have been walked out since. Many were very honest and hard working. Than the employes that were forced out or fired in the back office and branches. It was bad back then. I can only imagine how ESL is now. I have a great job now and work with the most wonderful people. That was not the case at ESL. I almost lost it a few times. When Dave Feidler arrived so did Satan and his minions. ESL will never be the same. Evil is in the air daily. You can cut it with a knife. Truly Satan rules here.
John

Rochester, NY

#26 Sep 21, 2013
Dave Feidler talking out his ass. Next to Antonio Perez he has to be the worst leader in corporate history. He needs to go to a seminar on how to treat and respect employees. Global Shared Value Leadership Summit? More waste of ESL money.

Mark

Buffalo, NY

#27 Sep 21, 2013
I was an employee from 2009 to early 2013. It went downhill progressively every year. When I resigned, they told me they had big plans for me and I was making a major mistake. I asked why I had to resign to find out I was ontrack for a promotion.

I left and never looked back. My new employer is far better, way less stressful and treats employees as a valuable asset. What a difference.

Managers are abusive bullies that frequently belittle their staff. Life is much better out of ESL. Much better.
Jane

Rochester, NY

#28 Sep 22, 2013
I was stressed out for years. Could not deal with the stress any longer. I had no choice but to leave. Not sure how the ones left survive daily. I had a asshole for manager. Also had a few stabbing me in the back to look good. I worked in the back office. The branches were worse. I would see some get promoted that were totally useless. The harder and more loyal you were the more you got screwed. I am long gone and happy.
Susan T

Buffalo, NY

#29 Sep 22, 2013
Jane wrote:
Also had a few stabbing me in the back to look good.
I have been following this thread, and after your post, decided to jump in. You are exactly right, political infighting, backstabbing, being devious to get ahead, and turning in co-workers mistakes is behavior that managers encourage. It's a gladiator pit, where only the most depraved survive.

It's sickening, and I had no stomach for it (plus the paid me peanuts). Left in 2013, and I physically feel better. I have two friends that are bailing this month. I'm so happy for them.
Wendy

Penfield, NY

#30 Sep 22, 2013
Susan T wrote:
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I have been following this thread, and after your post, decided to jump in. You are exactly right, political infighting, backstabbing, being devious to get ahead, and turning in co-workers mistakes is behavior that managers encourage. It's a gladiator pit, where only the most depraved survive.
It's sickening, and I had no stomach for it (plus the paid me peanuts). Left in 2013, and I physically feel better. I have two friends that are bailing this month. I'm so happy for them.
Exactly. Sickening. Your post was excellent, and you hit it. I've got to get out. I envy you so much. I'm still going back to the cesspool on Monday.
Ha Ha

Fairport, NY

#31 Sep 22, 2013
Do you know what would make working conditions better .. the teamsters!
Rick

Rochester, NY

#32 Sep 22, 2013
I will never forget when Dave Feidler promoted his Adm assistant Barb Ruffino to a Manager just cause he liked her. Put all the administrative assistants under her. Gave her a $50,000 pay increase. There was a lot of pissed off workers. Yet most could not even get a promotion or a pay increase. You left as you came in at the same pay level unless you had connections or ass kissed. Karen Davis took care of her all friends very well. So has Leo Icobelli at ESL Investment Services. All his family and Italian friends now work for him. Not Italian or family than no job for you working for him. Gladiator pit for sure. You have to wonder when it wall all fall like Kodak. I had no friends ( could not trust anyone)and was always looking over my back. Co workers stealing my work while I was out for an operation then telling the boss when I came back that I had no work. Every day watching people be fired. You never knew who would be next. Feidler even fired Walter Rusnak. Then there were all the other wonderful managers that did not deserve to get the ax. Most were honest, cared about people and had integrity. Qualities you can not have to survive at ESL.
Steve

Penfield, NY

#33 Sep 22, 2013
Rick wrote:
Yet most could not even get a promotion or a pay increase. You left as you came in at the same pay level unless you had connections or ass kissed.
OMG, so true.

Warning to anyone crazy enough to accept an offer with ESL. Negotiate the highest possible rate you can squeeze out of them, because you will never earn much more. I believed the crap about "once you are up to speed, and doing well, the sky's the limit". Not going to happen. Ever. They will cheap out every time. You can take that to the ESL bank.
Nagesh

Los Angeles, CA

#34 Sep 22, 2013
They know me by my American name, so I will hopefully be unrecognizable. I am at ESL currently, and have spent the past four months sending out resumes. Finally got some responses, and now have two decent offers. One thing that really screwed me was my salary at ESL, which prospective employers thought was suspect, because it was so low (I have an MBA, being paid like an Associate's degree).

ESL is my first employer out of college.

I was asked about it every time I talked compensation with perspective employers. They thought either something was wrong with me, or I was being untruthful about my position. ESL is cheap, cheap and cheap. Avoid the place.

I could write a thesis on the bad management and their equally bad decisions.
Rick

Rochester, NY

#35 Sep 22, 2013
Nagesh wrote:
They know me by my American name, so I will hopefully be unrecognizable. I am at ESL currently, and have spent the past four months sending out resumes. Finally got some responses, and now have two decent offers. One thing that really screwed me was my salary at ESL, which prospective employers thought was suspect, because it was so low (I have an MBA, being paid like an Associate's degree).
ESL is my first employer out of college.
I was asked about it every time I talked compensation with perspective employers. They thought either something was wrong with me, or I was being untruthful about my position. ESL is cheap, cheap and cheap. Avoid the place.
I could write a thesis on the bad management and their equally bad decisions.
Rule #1. Never talk money with future employers up front. Rule#2. Find a job that you will love and the money will come.(hobby) Rule#3. You may fail a few times before you find the perfect fit. Its ok to fail.

Do not waste your time on a dead end street (ESL) surrounded by people who are evil and only care about themselves. Until the management changes nothing will ever change at ESL. There is no future at ESL unless you are in the country club click and kiss ass. Wish I could hire you as I am a manager at a wonderful company but I want to remain anonymous. Find what you love. That is the key.
Pat

Rochester, NY

#36 Sep 22, 2013
John wrote:
Dave Feidler talking out his ass. Next to Antonio Perez he has to be the worst leader in corporate history. He needs to go to a seminar on how to treat and respect employees. Global Shared Value Leadership Summit? More waste of ESL money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UR89znnh7W0XX
What the hell is he talking about? Lots of shit that means nothing. No wonder ESL is screwed up. They have meetings talking shit like this all the time.
Rick

Rochester, NY

#38 Sep 22, 2013
CPA Guy wrote:
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Wrong. If employers don't know what you expect early on, your wasting your time and theirs. Don't give them a range, that's a deal killer - they go to the bottom, you go to the top.
But when negotiating with ESL, get all you can up front. You are never getting a significant raise, that's off the table the day you walk through the door. Talk about negotiating in bad faith, ESL wrote the book. Hope someone sues them one of these days. They have been screwing their employees for a long time. It's an ESL tradition.
The rules do not apply at ESL. This company does not function normally like most businesses. Just do not apply at ESL and you will have no problems with pay. ESL is at all the job fairs begging for workers. Just skip them. You will only get a raise/promotion at ESL if you are a relative or good friend of an ESL manager, you have slept with a manager or are a big ass kisser.

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Wendy

Penfield, NY

#39 Sep 22, 2013
Rick wrote:
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ESL is at all the job fairs begging for workers. Just skip them.
That's the operative word: workers.

ESL doesn't hire employees or staff members, they hire workers like a fast food restaurant. I would be more motivated working for McDonalds or Target. Probably better managers, too. I dread going to work Monday. Listening to all their BS, lame jokes and complaints about other "workers".
Ha Ha

Fairport, NY

#40 Sep 22, 2013
If it is so bad, why doesn't all the employees vote with their feet & quit?
I'm sure the corporate office would have to make some changes if they couldn't keep people employed!
John

Rochester, NY

#41 Sep 23, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
If it is so bad, why doesn't all the employees vote with their feet & quit?
I'm sure the corporate office would have to make some changes if they couldn't keep people employed!
They do vote with there feet. Its a revolving door daily. The corporate office does not care. The corporate office also is a revolving door with management and employees. Disconnect between upper management and employees. CEO is a nut.

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