2 shot at Clifford Ave house party

2 shot at Clifford Ave house party

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Knicks Beau June Eeyore

Rochester, NY

#1 Apr 12, 2014
http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S3397442.sht...

Do they think this is Buffalo with bars open until 4am? I bet the landlord wont be happy about this. Time to evict the tenants and not give back the deposit.
ThatsThreeSoFar

Conesus, NY

#2 Apr 12, 2014
Should be a good weekend! Anyone have the link to the Rochester police scanner? Should be on fire the rest of the weekend.
you never get it

Rochester, NY

#3 Apr 12, 2014
If the city police can't control these fools then either the state police or the national guard should do the policing and come down hard of these thugs once an for all.
Knicks Beau June Eeyore

Rochester, NY

#4 Apr 12, 2014
you never get it wrote:
If the city police can't control these fools then either the state police or the national guard should do the policing and come down hard of these thugs once an for all.
Just how do you propose for the RPD to control people inside private property homes? This wasnt in the street.
Why not include the Monroe County Sherrif Dept too? Do you have an issue with them?

Do you want a cop or Natl' Guard member in every home, office and building? that would violate
3rd Amendment - No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
you never get it

Rochester, NY

#5 Apr 12, 2014
Knicks Beau June Eeyore wrote:
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Just how do you propose for the RPD to control people inside private property homes? This wasnt in the street.
Why not include the Monroe County Sherrif Dept too? Do you have an issue with them?
Do you want a cop or Natl' Guard member in every home, office and building? that would violate
3rd Amendment - No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Besides trying to start a fight Rhonda you are also a idiot. I didn't say that there should be a law enforcement officer in every house, but they should enforce the laws about noise and groups gathering on the streets, I'm sure that would cut down on the animals running wild. No, I don't have any issues with the MCSD, unlike many of your peers, so you fail to start a problem with that one. Before you go spewing what the 3rd Amendment is about, you should have a reason to "explain" it to me. Because you twisted around what was posted, like always to try to sound smart which you are far from and start trouble, you failed again zippy.
Knicks Beau June Eeyore

Rochester, NY

#6 Apr 12, 2014
LMAO at you being such a Pinhead thinking I'm Rhonduh. My previous posts in other threads have only mocked or slammed her/him.(being a fat white balding man). I am far more intelligent and loquacious than Rhonduh or Caprice Classic or any of their ilk.

Who said there was noise at this party? Do you have a noise complaint call for that night and location? Plus it was indoors, not out in the street.

YOU are the Epic Fail there Schlitzie.
yep

Rochester, NY

#8 Apr 12, 2014
You think the animals are out of control now,just wait til the day the gibs run out. Civil war will be begin.
the news

Rochester, NY

#9 Apr 12, 2014
i want to know why everything that happens on clifford always disappears

usually no one is ever arrested, there is NEVER a follow up, most things that happen on this street never even get a single paragraph of news coverage

WHY????

the area of clifford and morton and clifford and elison and clifford and caves has been a problem area for over a decade now

same people, same corner stores, same homes, same problems

the response to the shooting took only about 2 minutes, thats great, thats fast, but its happening far too often

and far too often NO ONE asks any questions

we still havent heard about who murdered those people from that one incident that they raided clifford ave about last time. They found the murder weapon, tons of drugs, yet there isnt one murder charge for the deaths of those people that caused the raid in the first place.

a multiple homicide situation, police raids, and barely any follow up

i watch the news, i hear about random shootings from several states away, but i watch the news and can barely get a single sentence of information on any of the events happening on my own street

i want to know whos behind this always getting buried EACH and EVERY time.
ThatsFourSoFar

Conesus, NY

#10 Apr 12, 2014
the news wrote:
i want to know why everything that happens on clifford always disappears
usually no one is ever arrested, there is NEVER a follow up, most things that happen on this street never even get a single paragraph of news coverage
WHY????
the area of clifford and morton and clifford and elison and clifford and caves has been a problem area for over a decade now
same people, same corner stores, same homes, same problems
the response to the shooting took only about 2 minutes, thats great, thats fast, but its happening far too often
and far too often NO ONE asks any questions
we still havent heard about who murdered those people from that one incident that they raided clifford ave about last time. They found the murder weapon, tons of drugs, yet there isnt one murder charge for the deaths of those people that caused the raid in the first place.
a multiple homicide situation, police raids, and barely any follow up
i watch the news, i hear about random shootings from several states away, but i watch the news and can barely get a single sentence of information on any of the events happening on my own street
i want to know whos behind this always getting buried EACH and EVERY time.
Rochester has no credible news reporting. The D&C is a liberal trash rag no one reads anymore.
Seems like everything is covered up/hushed up. If people only knew the truth how bad things really are. Four shot so far this weekend and their will barely be a mention in the news.
I get most of my local news right here on topix from other posters.
the news

Rochester, NY

#11 Apr 13, 2014
ThatsFourSoFar wrote:
<quoted text>
Rochester has no credible news reporting. The D&C is a liberal trash rag no one reads anymore.
Seems like everything is covered up/hushed up. If people only knew the truth how bad things really are. Four shot so far this weekend and their will barely be a mention in the news.
I get most of my local news right here on topix from other posters.
this is very correct, there needs to be a way for the community to demand more transparency and real news

neighbors in these areas deserve more than 1-2 paragraphs regarding all of these incidents that happen every week.

you hear gunshots, you see police respond, and thats all the information you are given regarding your own street, meanwhile the news covers every stupid word the kardassians mention or every stupid thing some gay does.

there needs to be recourse, there needs to be some way for the community to get real information

if this continues much longer, i foresee very soon a new independent media rising up that actually covers the real events in our actual areas
ThatsFourSoFar

Conesus, NY

#12 Apr 13, 2014
the news wrote:
<quoted text>
this is very correct, there needs to be a way for the community to demand more transparency and real news
neighbors in these areas deserve more than 1-2 paragraphs regarding all of these incidents that happen every week.
you hear gunshots, you see police respond, and thats all the information you are given regarding your own street, meanwhile the news covers every stupid word the kardassians mention or every stupid thing some gay does.
there needs to be recourse, there needs to be some way for the community to get real information
if this continues much longer, i foresee very soon a new independent media rising up that actually covers the real events in our actual areas
Are you familiar with the Batavian.com ? It is one of the most successful online news papers in the country. Howard Owens and his wife Billie & small staff report the news. Not their opinion or their take on it. They report the news as it is as it happens..
Howards online paper has the best format I have ever seen. They cover community events and always
have the police, fire & ambulance scanners on and report things as they happen.
Howard has mentored many around the country. If a couple of young journalist "REAL" news reporters wanted to start a similar on line news paper in Rochester I think they could give liberal fluff rags like the D&C some completion. Get advice & mentoring from Howard.
Report the facts and let the reader form his own opinion.
I must agree as I travel around other town, city's, states and Rochester reporting sucks and the D&C is the absolute worst crap/value for your buck.
ThatsFourSoFar

Conesus, NY

#13 Apr 13, 2014
Mario

Rochester, NY

#14 Apr 13, 2014
The National Guard should be used extensively in the 'hood to control the violence and recapture the city. Martial law seems to be all that is left, RPD can't handle the task.

There should also be a penalty for the closest family members of the thug -- to force some adult responsibility,
From my Cold Dead Hands

Conesus, NY

#15 Apr 13, 2014
The city is a lost cause. Let them kill each other. Give them free shooting lessons. The only hope is that the thugs kill each other off.
the news

Rochester, NY

#16 Apr 13, 2014
ThatsFourSoFar wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you familiar with the Batavian.com ? It is one of the most successful online news papers in the country. Howard Owens and his wife Billie & small staff report the news. Not their opinion or their take on it. They report the news as it is as it happens..
Howards online paper has the best format I have ever seen. They cover community events and always
have the police, fire & ambulance scanners on and report things as they happen.
Howard has mentored many around the country. If a couple of young journalist "REAL" news reporters wanted to start a similar on line news paper in Rochester I think they could give liberal fluff rags like the D&C some completion. Get advice & mentoring from Howard.
Report the facts and let the reader form his own opinion.
I must agree as I travel around other town, city's, states and Rochester reporting sucks and the D&C is the absolute worst crap/value for your buck.
thanks for the info
the news

Rochester, NY

#17 Apr 13, 2014
From my Cold Dead Hands wrote:
The city is a lost cause. Let them kill each other. Give them free shooting lessons. The only hope is that the thugs kill each other off.
this statement needs to go extinct. it is an obfuscation of the facts. The majority of city residents are good people that are getting terrorized by a minority.

it is not every house in the city that is involved with these events.

what we are seeing is habitual criminals committing their crimes over and over again within the same niche.

the corner stores are congregation places for the minority that are criminals. from the corner stores they migrate to nearby properties and spread their disease.

corner stores in the city are like african watering holes, some tame animals go there for sustenance, others go there for the opportunity to pounce.

if the officials actually dealt with these areas, and the continually repeat offenders, the city would NOT be a lost cause
Mario

Rochester, NY

#18 Apr 13, 2014
The new Mayor and Police Chief have it under control. Centralization is over, they're going to take back the streets any day now8023.

Notice how the heat is off Maggie with Lovely's many crazy schemes. Maggie has to be clicking her heels, and hoping she keeps coming up with more nutso stuff. Ms Warren has taken the heat off the county administration.
My Cold Dead Hands

Conesus, NY

#19 Apr 13, 2014
the news wrote:
<quoted text>
this statement needs to go extinct. it is an obfuscation of the facts. The majority of city residents are good people that are getting terrorized by a minority.
it is not every house in the city that is involved with these events.
what we are seeing is habitual criminals committing their crimes over and over again within the same niche.
the corner stores are congregation places for the minority that are criminals. from the corner stores they migrate to nearby properties and spread their disease.
corner stores in the city are like african watering holes, some tame animals go there for sustenance, others go there for the opportunity to pounce.
if the officials actually dealt with these areas, and the continually repeat offenders, the city would NOT be a lost cause
I tend to agree with you But.
If what you say is true, if the majority of city residents are getting terrorized by the minority.
Why doesn't black Mayor Lovely say with the full unwavering support of black ministers and black community organizer/activists and Adam McFadden?
Crime in Rochester is going to stop here and now. On my watch I am directing my hand picked police chief to come down on criminals like a ton of bricks. I will ask MC DA to prosecute to the fullest. I will ask Judges to set high bail and show little leniency.
The signal will be sent be a thug in Rochester you are going to jail/prison for a long time.
Mayor Lovely should say to criminals "I don't care if you rot in jail/prison" I am here first and foremost to protect the decent law abiding citizens of Rochester and MRC.
If Andrew Cuomo has to keep a few of his planned prison closings open for a few more years so be it. Get over it Andy.
If the problem is a small minority crush the relentlessly and don't let up. Make Rochester safe again.
the news

Rochester, NY

#20 Apr 13, 2014
MORE events ongoing on clifford ave, they each only have 2 small paragraphs

another shooting, another stabbing, and the only info we get is the investigation is ongoing

its the same exact statement in every single event from this area

no info, hardly ever a follow up

enough is enough

ill be contacting warrens office this week to tell her this is not acceptable

the more and more this stuff happens, the more and more its buried, the only reason i can think of for this to be happening is the fact that the officials are all in on it and would in someway suffer financially or otherwise if these events were actually reported

right now its breaking news on every website that some jewish place in kansas was shot up

frankly, i dont care about that, i want to know whats happening in my own neighborhood. i could care less about whats happening states away
the news

Rochester, NY

#21 Apr 13, 2014
My Cold Dead Hands wrote:
<quoted text>
I tend to agree with you But.
If what you say is true, if the majority of city residents are getting terrorized by the minority.
Why doesn't black Mayor Lovely say with the full unwavering support of black ministers and black community organizer/activists and Adam McFadden?
Crime in Rochester is going to stop here and now. On my watch I am directing my hand picked police chief to come down on criminals like a ton of bricks. I will ask MC DA to prosecute to the fullest. I will ask Judges to set high bail and show little leniency.
The signal will be sent be a thug in Rochester you are going to jail/prison for a long time.
Mayor Lovely should say to criminals "I don't care if you rot in jail/prison" I am here first and foremost to protect the decent law abiding citizens of Rochester and MRC.
If Andrew Cuomo has to keep a few of his planned prison closings open for a few more years so be it. Get over it Andy.
If the problem is a small minority crush the relentlessly and don't let up. Make Rochester safe again.
escalation of police services are not the answer. they will never prevent anything, they will only ever respond, its impossible to do otherwise. police cant do anything until you call them or they see crime, by then its too late, And clearly, punishing one criminal harshly, does not deter the next one

one cant simply arrest their way out of this problem without changing the ecosystem in place

police only respond, the money spent on police would be better spent investing in businesses that create jobs and prevent home owners from renting to problem tenants consistently and continually.

lastly, look at where almost ALL the problems are, all within vicinity of "corner stores"

time to eliminate them all

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