Are the Navy SEALs Too...White?

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#1 Feb 26, 2012
I don't know about you, but I'm getting pretty sick of this war on the white male. According to TIME, the Navy SEALs are too white and don't resemble real seals. Seriously.

In nature, most seals are black, with relatively few white ones. The Navy's SEALs have exactly the opposite problem -- they're overwhelmingly white, with hardly any blacks. So they're trying to do something about it.

What? I don't even know where to start on this one. Great, racist analogy TIME. The real question is: Why does it matter what color the skin of a Navy SEAL is so long as they complete the training to become a Navy SEAL in the first place? TIME wonders how in the world an elite volunteer force could ever be made of up mostly white males.


It's a fundamental challenge in a democracy with an all-volunteer force: recruits may be drawn from all segments of society, but elite military units -- and none is more elite these days than the SEALs, following their dispatch of Osama bin Laden last May -- tend to draw from small pools of talent. For the SEALs, that includes athletic young men who are smart and good in the water. For whatever reason, that has led to an overwhelmingly white SEAL force.

Answer? Because they qualified to be Navy SEALs by completing the most rigorous training program in the world. If you don't know the details of the training, I suggest you read Marcus Luttrell's Lone Survivor. SEAL training is hell on earth and you don't get through it to become one of the most elite fighting machines the world has ever known by skipping the line because you happen to be a minority. It doesn't work that way. It's simple: If you qualify, you qualify, regardless of skin color.

The worst part? The Navy seems to be falling into the political correctness trap and entertaining the idea of recruiting based on skin color first, skill second.


The SEALs are considering hiring help to attract thousands of "minority males in the 1624 year-old target age range" to become SEALs. "This contract will create a mechanism to enhance Naval Special Warfare's ability to conduct outreach, raise awareness, mentor, and increase self-selection to a career as a SEAL within minority communities," a recently-posted draft contract solicitation says.

At best, the TIME article is racist in two ways: 1) saying current Navy SEALs are too white 2) implying that minorities aren't good enough on their merits and hard to work to become a SEAL so they should be let in based on their skin color instead.

Regardless, there is one nugget of sense in the piece:


U.S. special operators have long acknowledged they face challenges mixing in with foreign populations because they look so American. The SEALs acknowledge as much: "Traditional SEAL Team demographics will not support some of the emerging mission elements that will be required," it says.

Good point, however the argument should have been framed as, "The Navy needs more minority candidates in order to complete missions in the Middle East and Africa more effectively." Instead, the current argument that the Navy is "too white" makes the recruitment of minority candidates look like affirmative action rather than a strategic move.

When I go see Act of Valor tomorrow, I'll be sure to count the number of white guys vs. minorities in the film and document the blatant discrimination. Not.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/201...

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#2 Feb 26, 2012
IescapedNY wrote:
I don't know about you, but I'm getting pretty sick of this war on the white male. According to TIME, the Navy SEALs are too white and don't resemble real seals. Seriously.
In nature, most seals are black, with relatively few white ones. The Navy's SEALs have exactly the opposite problem -- they're overwhelmingly white, with hardly any blacks. So they're trying to do something about it.
What? I don't even know where to start on this one. Great, racist analogy TIME. The real question is: Why does it matter what color the skin of a Navy SEAL is so long as they complete the training to become a Navy SEAL in the first place? TIME wonders how in the world an elite volunteer force could ever be made of up mostly white males.
It's a fundamental challenge in a democracy with an all-volunteer force: recruits may be drawn from all segments of society, but elite military units -- and none is more elite these days than the SEALs, following their dispatch of Osama bin Laden last May -- tend to draw from small pools of talent. For the SEALs, that includes athletic young men who are smart and good in the water. For whatever reason, that has led to an overwhelmingly white SEAL force.
Answer? Because they qualified to be Navy SEALs by completing the most rigorous training program in the world. If you don't know the details of the training, I suggest you read Marcus Luttrell's Lone Survivor. SEAL training is hell on earth and you don't get through it to become one of the most elite fighting machines the world has ever known by skipping the line because you happen to be a minority. It doesn't work that way. It's simple: If you qualify, you qualify, regardless of skin color.
The worst part? The Navy seems to be falling into the political correctness trap and entertaining the idea of recruiting based on skin color first, skill second.
The SEALs are considering hiring help to attract thousands of "minority males in the 1624 year-old target age range" to become SEALs. "This contract will create a mechanism to enhance Naval Special Warfare's ability to conduct outreach, raise awareness, mentor, and increase self-selection to a career as a SEAL within minority communities," a recently-posted draft contract solicitation says.
At best, the TIME article is racist in two ways: 1) saying current Navy SEALs are too white 2) implying that minorities aren't good enough on their merits and hard to work to become a SEAL so they should be let in based on their skin color instead.
Regardless, there is one nugget of sense in the piece:
U.S. special operators have long acknowledged they face challenges mixing in with foreign populations because they look so American. The SEALs acknowledge as much: "Traditional SEAL Team demographics will not support some of the emerging mission elements that will be required," it says.
Good point, however the argument should have been framed as, "The Navy needs more minority candidates in order to complete missions in the Middle East and Africa more effectively." Instead, the current argument that the Navy is "too white" makes the recruitment of minority candidates look like affirmative action rather than a strategic move.
When I go see Act of Valor tomorrow, I'll be sure to count the number of white guys vs. minorities in the film and document the blatant discrimination. Not.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/201...
Very well put. Excellent. I agree 100%!!!!!!
semper fi forever

Rochester, NY

#3 Feb 26, 2012
They're white, because the KNEE-GROWS don't have the balls, or the courage, to make the team!!!!

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#4 Feb 26, 2012
When will all of the P/C crap stop? This is another way to play the race card by the MSM.

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#5 Feb 27, 2012
Anyone notice the absence of certain posters who never fail to comment about "Whites" but have no comments about "Are the Navy SEALs Too...White"?

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#6 Feb 27, 2012
semper fi forever wrote:
They're white, because the KNEE-GROWS don't have the balls, or the courage, to make the team!!!!
Anyone affiliated with the Military is a leech to my tax dollars....Army,Navy,Marines,A ir Force= Meatheads who couldn't make it in the real world!!!!!!! LOSERS
Eddie

Rochester, NY

#7 Feb 27, 2012
Blacks aren't smart enough for special ops. I'm not even trying to joke or be racist. I was in basic training with probably 20 blacks, 1 of which I would've wanted in the foxhole with me. The other 19 were numb nuts.

As a side note, you ever notice how a majority of offensive linemen in the NFL are white? It has to do with them being able to process the various blocking schemes.
Steve

Willingboro, NJ

#8 Feb 27, 2012
Eddie wrote:
Blacks aren't smart enough for special ops. I'm not even trying to joke or be racist. I was in basic training with probably 20 blacks, 1 of which I would've wanted in the foxhole with me. The other 19 were numb nuts.
As a side note, you ever notice how a majority of offensive linemen in the NFL are white? It has to do with them being able to process the various blocking schemes.
By saying you were in basic training only means you're a numb nut also. What happen? Barely made it out of high school huh?
Eddie

Rochester, NY

#9 Feb 27, 2012
Steve wrote:
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By saying you were in basic training only means you're a numb nut also. What happen? Barely made it out of high school huh?
How does your post make any sense? By saying I was in basic training means I was in the military. I made it through 2 years of college, then joined the Army for the GI bill. I graduated 2nd in my class of 22 in AIT, so nope, I can't validate your claim.
Steve

Willingboro, NJ

#10 Feb 27, 2012
Eddie wrote:
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How does your post make any sense? By saying I was in basic training means I was in the military. I made it through 2 years of college, then joined the Army for the GI bill. I graduated 2nd in my class of 22 in AIT, so nope, I can't validate your claim.
All on the taxpayers dime!!!!

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#11 Feb 27, 2012
Maybe if we lower the bar low enough some of these guys could give it a "shot"

http://www.blackmediascoop.com/2012/01/20/43-...
You Cant Make This Up

Rochester, NY

#12 Feb 27, 2012
Well it takes brains to be a SEAL, and then there's that whole pesky being able to swim thing too. So that kind of weeds them out right there.
semper fi forever

Rochester, NY

#13 Feb 28, 2012
On top of everything, the SEALS are VOLUNTARY only. Have you ever seen a KNEE-GROW volunteer for anything, except maybe another handout, fried chicken, watermelon, or a chance to make another nappy haired rug rat!!!

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#15 Feb 28, 2012
semper fi forever wrote:
On top of everything, the SEALS are VOLUNTARY only. Have you ever seen a KNEE-GROW volunteer for anything, except maybe another handout, fried chicken, watermelon, or a chance to make another nappy haired rug rat!!!
Very good, semper fi forever !!!!!!!!!! Whoo rah !!!!!!!!!!
Paul Mafinger

Rochester, NY

#16 Feb 28, 2012
God put Nickbo13 in a wheelchair as Karma for his racist views

“STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD”

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#17 Feb 28, 2012
Seeing that the Navy Seals is in the spec ops community and a very technical and tactical field it's no wonder there aren't a lot of blacks in that field of expertise. First off most of them lack the motivation, not all but most. Sorry but I wouldn't want somebody that is sub standard or in need of a tutor to get through spec ops training. If you can't cut it then get out, if you can't make the grade then move along. You either PASS or you FAIL, simple as that and race has nothing to do with. A large majority of blacks are fearful of water and can't swim, did they every think that might have a lot to do with the low number of applicants for this specialized training. Of course not.

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#18 Feb 28, 2012
Why the silence from RacistFireCrotch BarnFart, Caprice Classic, and Moriality on this subject? Usually they can't wait to comment on any subject involving whites.
They always seam to have an opinion but don't on this. I wonder why?
Paul Mafinger

Rochester, NY

#19 Feb 28, 2012

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#20 Feb 28, 2012
IescapedNY wrote:
Why the silence from RacistFireCrotch BarnFart, Caprice Classic, and Moriality on this subject? Usually they can't wait to comment on any subject involving whites.
They always seam to have an opinion but don't on this. I wonder why?
But I'm the one who is always blamed for everything and called racist, stupid, etc.
Tad24

Rochester, NY

#21 Feb 28, 2012
We all know blacks can not swim. They only play basketball and football. No seals here.

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